I went to pull in my 92 Camaro RS tonight and it wouldnt start. when i turn the key it makes no sound what so ever. i know the battery is fine cuz the fan runs and the lights/stereo runs. just before i tried to start it i was securing the cover under the drivers side dashboard where the fuses was so maybe i bumped a wire/starter? i recently had the exhaust manifold gasket replaced, thermostat and some other stuff too and all new fuel lines, brake lines, fuel filter, and fuel pump replaced. i read possibly the computer? or the starter? or possibly the spark plugs are all dead (if they're not they will be soon)? please advise

 

when you try and start the car does the security light stay on?

 

Yeah, this is important. If it does you'll need to bypass your VATS system. Easy and cheap to do.

Also, if it's VATS, when you trip the module, it will shut down the car for about 5 minutes. So go back 5 minutes later and try again.

 

i'm not sure what your saying about the security light, i dont even know if it has some security

when i go to turn the key the emergency brake light turns on and the INFL REST light goes on (i think its for the air bag)

i'm really not sure what is happening so all replies appreciated

i've been reading more, possibly the starter?

thanx

 

its definetly your anti- theft, i have same problem. small when it happens jus turn it off n wait a few, may take few tries

 

it doesnt work after a few tries and it doesnt help waiting and trying either

and i take back everything about the anti theft, i didnt think it had it but it says on the window it has an antitheft system, so for all i know it works
if this is the case, how do i bypass it?

 

Any more possibilities besides the VATS?

 

i just tried installing the bypass to the vats, but that didnt work
i soldered the resistors to the exact value of the key and everything
so the problem is atleast not with the top part of the vats system

i also noticed tonight that when i turn the key it dims the headlights very slightly and there is a soft click from the front right part of the car (can't tell exactly where)

any more ideas?

 

This may sound dumb, but smack the starter with a wrench or something a few times, sometimes the starter will seize up and smacking it helps loosen it, if it does work you need to replace the starter before it goes completely. Might be the starter solenoid as well. Just an idea.

 

thanx for the input jason, someone else suggested that also, so i tried it, but unfortunately that didnt work
im having it towed tomorrow im out of simple solutions

 

Let us know what it turns out to be if you get fixed.

 

I wonder if it has anything to do with the battery cables? They might be to correded to send fire or a ground. I bought a 95 camaro for $1200 dollars from a dealer because he didnt know what was wrong with it. That was all it was. $30 worth of new cable.

 

mechanic says its the starter

 

got it towed to the local mechanic and said it was definitely the starter so he ripped it out and replaced it. when he went to start it it didnt work. he said it no longer had power to the starter even though it did before he replaced it. he said he tripped the vats so he towed it to the dealer then the dealer dicks around for a few days until he says that its a battery module or something - still dont have it back so ill update more when it comes

 

That sucks, hope you get it figured out soon.

 

take a volt meter and check for your self to see if it is getting 12 volts. If not get a better ground. It should have fire if the other one did. What mad him change the starter? If you have power from your battery and not your starter check the ground. If you are sure you have a good ground just replace the cables. If that doesnt work, check the module in the distributor cap. if these dont work. go to a shop and tell them to hook a computer to it.

 

so the dealer eventually just replaced a 5 dollar part right off of the battery i think its a grounding module
i think my headache is over except for the 1500 in bills

heres the entire story

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/prob...ml#post3534156

thanx for the help guys

 

Ouch! That's one expensive module!
Sucks that you had to go thru all that.
As far as a lawsuit goes, I doubt you would have much of a chance, but you could always try. Maybe a small claims court or something.

 

so the part is called a grounding module? i need to know cuz my car is doing the same thing i was on my way to taco bell and i pulled into a parking lot to let my windows defrost (cuz my heater kinda sux) and the car just died on me. ive already changed the starter which i found out later was fine to begin with and ive already bypassed the security if you have any other ideas they would greatly be appreciated
Thanks,
Marc

 

i'm pretty sure thats what it was called, but i will check soon when i find my bill

 

Well not to sound mean but have you tried tightening the battery cable, if you could put some pics up of your cables. That could help alot. The reason i say cables is because they may have either bad connection or groundage. Also a picture of your whole engine would be nice, also a picture of the dash when trying to start will be helpful. The starter could be the problem because it may not be getting enough current. But I hope that you get this straightened out.

and then you can be on your way

 

well i know the battery cable are fine because i jumped the terminals on the starter and it turned over strong but my key wont engage the starter eventhough i have a resistor to overpass the VATS sys, ive asked other places and their wanting me to buy a remote starter and install tht in my car, is this a good idea, do you have any ideas how i can at least get my car to turn over?

 

i checked the bergstrom bill, and it was the junction block - it was only $4.26 so its worth a try. It sounds more and more like the same situation i had but i really hope this works for you. let us know

 

This may sound dumb but jack the car up then take a big flathead and put it on the pinion gear and forcefully pry it to the flywheel/flexplate and then jump the car this should get you running. But dont buy a remote start to fix this problem because with remote start you have to put the key in and put in the power position and if your tumbler isnt connecting then it will turn off after the time period is up. Best bet is to make sure every thing is connected to every thing is tight and grounded. Just ask if you still need help.


Dave

 

well thanx for the help guys i finally broke down and took it into the shopp and after three days they find out the problem i guess it was a wire somewhere between my starter, alternator and battery, they said that the wire haad gotton stuck on my exaust pipe and burnt through it cutting power to my alterator which caused my battery to get power to everything else but didnt have enough power to crank the engine, but they were pretty cool about but they did charge me 250 fn bucks.

but when i go to pick up my car they tell me to check my tranny oil cuz my car was shiftin hard so i drive it back to my place and no problems i check my tranny oil and its fine. so i go to drive it the next day and it shifts so hard from park to drive it jerks my car and sometimes even kills it.. well what tipped the problem off to me was that when i left from a stop light and was accelerating when ever it went into second gear it would jerk real bad, so figure it was maybe a loose tranny mount, wel i had a busy scuedule and i didnt have the time to get underneath there and do a quick tightining but a couple of days later im able to and i go underneath there and i se that one of my tranny mounts is broken but this one side tranny mount wouldnt cause the amount of jerk i was getting so i look at my crossmember and ALL OF THE FN BOLTS ARE GONE so im guessing that is what broke my first mount

so the freakin guys at the shop deliberately or just "forgot" to put those bolts back in and i know it had to be them cuz it looks like these bolts were reacently taken out cuz like many cars mine has a small oil spray under the car and under all that spray there is too shiny clean spots where the bolts are supposed to be

figure that i go to the best shop in KC and an they mess with my car they left out all the bolts that hold my tranny to my crossmember and that caused my other tranny mount to break i called them today but there closed on sundays so im going to call tomorrow and have them fix it and they better fix it for free too or ill take their a to court

so ill give you guys another heads up on what happens jus tell me what you think about that or if you think i should do something else
Marc

 

well i'm really sorry to hear that, but somehow that situation sounds very familiar...