Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

SES light still on after replacing EGR valve

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 28, 2008 | 01:09 PM
  #1  
dbusicchia's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
SES light still on after replacing EGR valve

I work for a chevy dealer in Warrenton, VA. I had our mechanics check my 86 Z28 out after I bought it. The SES light comes on after getting into the accelerator for a little bit and it feels like I am losing a lot of power as well as it feeling like the transmission is surging. They said the EGR valve was bad so I replaced it myself, easy fix right? nope it still has the same problem so it loses power and sucks down gas like there is no tomorrow, what may be the real problem? It has the 4BBL not TPI.
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2008 | 03:15 PM
  #2  
five7kid's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 43,187
Likes: 42
From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Welcome aboard thirdgen.org.

The SES light is still coming on? What code was/is it setting?

The only EGR fault the ECM detects is the EGR solenoid electrical circuit. Losing power and sucking down gas doesn't sound EGR related, anyway. Something tells me they didn't do a very thorough job of troubleshooting. Can't blame them too much, they probably haven't had any training on this model for 15 years, and probably don't even have the equipment to read trouble codes anymore (unless it's in their personal toolbox).

Last edited by five7kid; Apr 28, 2008 at 03:32 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2008 | 12:33 AM
  #3  
BluFBdy's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,179
Likes: 1
From: Port Orchard,WA
Car: 89 Camaro RS
Engine: 355 SD TPI
Transmission: WCT5
Axle/Gears: 3.08 Posi
Re: SES light still on after replacing EGR valve

id go talk to your service director and have him help you find one of your older techs to troubleshoot it if you have any. As far as the gas thing goes id see if the carb is even tuned right
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2008 | 08:48 AM
  #4  
dbusicchia's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Re: SES light still on after replacing EGR valve

I don't know what the codes are all I know is that when it happens I hear a small thump like something closing hard. Thanks for the helkp though I'm just going to have all the fuel delivery and emissions controls replaced.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2008 | 09:21 AM
  #5  
afremont's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,004
Likes: 1
Car: 90 IROC
Engine: 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: SES light still on after replacing EGR valve

Originally Posted by dbusicchia
I don't know what the codes are all I know is that when it happens I hear a small thump like something closing hard. Thanks for the helkp though I'm just going to have all the fuel delivery and emissions controls replaced.
Ok, but that's going to be expensive. I suggest getting a code reader or doing a search to find out which terminals to jumper so the SES light will flash out the code(s) for you.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2008 | 09:53 AM
  #6  
five7kid's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 43,187
Likes: 42
From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Replacing things that aren't causing a problem is an expense that will very likely not fix the problem itself. If the SES light is coming on, it's trying to tell you what's wrong - you need to listen. You don't need to buy anything, the FAQ section linked from the thirdgen.org homepage has info on how to pull the codes with a paper clip.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2008 | 12:56 PM
  #7  
dbusicchia's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Re: SES light still on after replacing EGR valve

Hey five, just pulled the code, its reading a 53, high voltage at battery or high voltage at EGR, etc. do you have any idea on how to fix it, I have already replaced the EGR valve.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2008 | 01:47 PM
  #8  
five7kid's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 43,187
Likes: 42
From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
One source that came up on a search said the carb applications code 53 would be a bad connection at the EGR solenoid - I remember my car set a code when I had the EGR solenoid disconnected, but I don't remember which code, and it didn't turn on the SES light if memory serves.

Changing the EGR valve didn't change anything because the EGR valve isn't part of the electrical circuit (and they rarely go bad, in spite of reports to the contrary). Check the EGR solenoid - it may be disconnected, it may have bad wires at the connector or in the harness, or the solenoid could be bad.

The other possibility is the ECM itself is bad (reference voltage).

Last edited by five7kid; Apr 29, 2008 at 01:53 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2008 | 02:34 PM
  #9  
dbusicchia's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Re: SES light still on after replacing EGR valve

I'll check the connector at the solenoid, if the connector is bad where can I find a replacement, the local salvage yards around me all say they don't carry anything that old.
Reply
Old May 1, 2008 | 11:51 PM
  #10  
KYLE87's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 898
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Car: 1987 Camaro
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700R4
Re: SES light still on after replacing EGR valve

Did you ever get thi figured out?
Reply
Old May 6, 2008 | 08:57 AM
  #11  
dbusicchia's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Re: SES light still on after replacing EGR valve

yeah the connector was bad, $12 fix no problem, also had to get the carb rebuilt, only one jet was working and flooding at that.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
1992rs/ss
NW Indiana and South Chicago Suburb
14
Jan 31, 2025 05:10 PM
1992rs/ss
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
16
Jan 28, 2016 09:58 PM
Zachattack0925
Tech / General Engine
2
Aug 12, 2015 09:54 PM
Zachattack0925
Transmissions and Drivetrain
4
Aug 12, 2015 09:52 PM
Omega
Interior Parts for Sale
2
Aug 10, 2015 12:46 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:48 PM.