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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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motor install prob

i cant get my motor to mat up with the tranny. the dowels line up but its not letting the flexplate b level with the torque converter. what am i doin wrong?
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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What do you mean by the flexplate not level with the torque converter? Up and down, front to back, side to side?

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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 11:34 PM
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Re: motor install prob

up and down bottom sticks out whilt top is inside bellhousing like supposed to be
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 12:30 AM
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i tried 4 flippin times pulling and resetting the motor. it will not line up with the trans. one side is always higher then the other. wtf am i doin wrong? i kno now im a flippin idiot
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 01:48 AM
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I'm pretty thoroughly confused. The flexplate doesn't fit inside the bellhousing on the bottom. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/vbga...-image-208.jpg
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Re: motor install prob

ok basically the flexplate is angled at the bottom. i cannot get the tranny and block to liine up for the life of me. whats easiest way to get them aligned
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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Re: motor install prob

take out the motor mount bolts if you have them in. put a floor jack under the tranny,place a small 2 by 4 between the jack and tranny so it doesnt bend your pan.raise the engine a little,make sure the front is higher than the rear. jack up your tranny a little bit. look up at the torque convertor and make sure the allignment rod on the converter goes inside of the allignment hole you may have to tuggle with it a little bit, but it will go.put some bolts in while the jack is under the tranny. i'm assuming this car is a automatic!
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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Re: motor install prob

Are you sure the torque converter is fully engaged on the transmission input shaft? They can be tricky.
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Re: motor install prob

Originally Posted by mpb74
take out the motor mount bolts if you have them in. put a floor jack under the tranny,place a small 2 by 4 between the jack and tranny so it doesnt bend your pan.raise the engine a little,make sure the front is higher than the rear. jack up your tranny a little bit. look up at the torque convertor and make sure the allignment rod on the converter goes inside of the allignment hole you may have to tuggle with it a little bit, but it will go.put some bolts in while the jack is under the tranny. i'm assuming this car is a automatic!
ill have to try that i didnt put ant bolts in yet. i pushed and turned torque converter and it wont budge anymore. so basically have front of motor tilted forward to get it to align with the tranny? yes its automatic

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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Re: motor install prob

Yes, Ultimately what your trying to do is match the angle of the motor to the angle of the tranny. Your converter not spinning tells me your alignment is off. It may take a bit of pushing, adjusting, jacking and adjusting...Just be patient...and as tempted as you may be at threading the bolts thru the bell housing into the block to suck it together...Dont do it. You may bust the tranny housing.
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Re: motor install prob

ya the converter spins, jus gettin irritated w not lining up
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Re: motor install prob

It not necessary to have any special tools to get your engine lined up with the trans but these come in very handy if you do enough engine installations to justify spending the money. I love mine, it makes it so much easier to get everything lined up.

http://www.myks-tools.com/
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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Re: motor install prob

wow thats sweet i wanna get one! but i jacked the trans up and im hoping motor will go in easy for me
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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Re: motor install prob

This may be a silly question, but I assume your trying to bolt probably a turbo 350, 700r4, 4l60e or a 400 up to a small block chevy right?

Have you bolted your converter to your flexplate? If you have, I would unbolt it and slide it onto the input shaft of the transmmission first then bolt it to your flexplate once it's all together.

Did this combo bolt up prior to this, or is this a whole new setup?

Another thing to look for if this is not a prior mated setup would be to check the diameter of your dowel pins on the block compared to the alignment holes on your tranny. There could be an issue there but it's not very likely.

I would keep everything as loose and free as possible as another member pointed out. No motor mount bolts, no tranny mount bolts, driveshaft out, and be sure that nothing is messing with your angles as you try and shoe horn it in like a rubbing fan against a shroud or a distributor hitting the firewall. Look for things like this also. Hope this helps.

Brandon
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Re: motor install prob

hey i got the tranny lined up. the flexplate is kinda "slanted" and dont line up with the torque converter. i mean theres a gap and it wont reach. can i bolt trans to block and then lower it down to mat up with the torque converter? i wana finish tonight u been a real help
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Re: motor install prob

anybody????/
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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Re: motor install prob

Originally Posted by billybob6110
hey i got the tranny lined up. the flexplate is kinda "slanted" and dont line up with the torque converter. i mean theres a gap and it wont reach. can i bolt trans to block and then lower it down to mat up with the torque converter? i wana finish tonight u been a real help
Are you saying the trans is not parallel to the rear of the block? You could put one or two bolts in loosely and use a jack w/ a block of wood to get them parallel. What ever you do, don't force it or you'll likely be sorry.
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