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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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high amperage

just bought myself a nice 82 z28 as a fixerupper
the kid i got it from redid the whole top end of the motor aside from that everything is junk...
i dont know much about motors but im starting to learn really fast my main question is why is it pulling so much amperage and killing the battery after one or two cranks?
i jumped it to my other car to help start it and it almost killed the battery on my other car after turning it over for 5 seconds?
is something wired wrong or is that normal and can i fix that with a bigger battery better alternator?
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Car: 1985 Berlinetta
Engine: Megasquirted TPI
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Re: high amperage

Have autozone do a load test on the battery. It might be junk.

Does the car run?
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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Car: LOWERED ♦ CRIMSON METALFLAKE
Engine: ► 400 KUBES ◄
Transmission: 765R4
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When it’s cranking, does the speed sound normal or slow?

Also, what oil are you using, what’s the temperature there?



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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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Re: high amperage

the car runs i bought it 3 days ago it was 50 miles from my house and it is cold here.. hehe when i drove it home it was 30 below zero i made it about 2 miles from the kids house i was driveing a 50 mph the tranny was at 3g for the first mile the second mile it rapped up to 4g going down a hill then every thing just died by it self its a bit of a slow turn hooked up to another running car its a bit faster as far as oil i dont have a clue just got it its hooked to the batter charger atm will go out and turn her over in a little bit then the fun work begins will do a oil change any recomended oil?
its a 350 5l with a 4bbl top end is all new edelbrock
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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I recommend 5W30 oil.

Wait till the warmest part of the day, hook a voltmeter to the battery, and read the voltage while cranking.

You don’t want to see much below 9 volts.

(a low cost analog meter is best for this test because they respond faster)



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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Re: high amperage

wow. Im guessing you are meaning that the trans was slipping and that the engine was at 3-4K RPMs, right? You cant have a 350 5L engine. A 5L engine is a 305. Another question, it has an edelbrock carb, right? What kind of distributor? It sounds like the battery is weak. Possibly check the alternator too.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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Car: 06 impala 87 iroc z-28
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well i dont know very much about motors got this car to to restore and teach myself about cars...... turns out i was really wrong about the motor i initialy thaught it had a 350 .... turns out according to my father in law its a 454 aside from that i wish i knew more then i do about motors
i charged the battery wich is junk and managed to get the car started and turned around in my garage it died on me in the process i managed to get it started again and it ran for about 3 mins and then it died. i cant get a feel for it yet a bunch of things on this are leaveing me scratching my head..
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there is a...nipple just right of the hose leading to the headson the carb that has me scratching my head ... wtf goes on that and wtf is it and to the left of the carb there is a black hose with a spark plug clamped at the end wtf....... doesnt make sence to me but im more of a body guy there is little i can not do with the exterior and interior of any vehicle..............
thank you for your time

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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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Re: high amperage

It's not a 454. It's most likely a 305. At any rate is has some issues and it sounds like you'd be better off taking it to a shop to get some minor things straightened out. The two small ports on the front base of the carburetor are for vacuum advance distributor and for the transmission (vacuum modulator) if it has one.

The sparkplug hose is just for the air injection to the exhaust. Since it is unhooked, don't worry about that for now.

Your starting issue could be just bad or loose cables. The wires and cables that matter go from the battery to the starter, the alternator to the starter, and the fusable links that go to the starter. If you're going to check out things then start with those, but like I said it sounds like you'd be better off finding a shop you can trust to fix the problem.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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Car: 06 impala 87 iroc z-28
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Re: high amperage

well just pulled one of my older battery out of the shed and charged it up cleaned all the connections and checked the wires it starts every time now.
cranks over normal and its about 20 degree's I’ve had the heater going in the garage but she doesn’t like to idle she dies out still any one have any good links for tuning a 4 bbl carb? Or any good books out there?
while running it seams to idle stable at about 7 or 8 rpm but once I let off the gas it goes to about 2.5 3 ish and then dies any suggestions?
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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Re: high amperage

Your carb has an electric choke control mounted on the passenger side of the carb, but it doesn't look to have any wires hooked up to it. Download the service manual for your carb from Edelbrock and read it. You may want to hook up your electric choke so it works.

You probably want to plug all the vacuum leaks as well.

Dry the top of the intake manifold off and try to find out where the antifreeze is coming from. It's probably one of the intake bolts near the front. To fix it drain the coolant level down and then pull the bolt out and apply high-temp RTV to the bolt threads and shank and reinstall. Let set up over night then refill the coolant and test.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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Re: high amperage

i was just wondering if the bolts on the intake manifold are supposed to be torqed if so whats the setting and looking at these bolts on the manifold all but one has either antifreeze or oil pooled around it so im thinking he either didnt seal the bolts or torque them or he used sealant and then ran the motor right away looks like a slow leak....
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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Re: high amperage

Make sure you find out where the coolant is coming from first. It may be spraying from another leak somewhere.
It is possible the intake wasn't sealed properly.
I think the torque range for aluminum intakes is between 15 and 25 lb-ft, but for myself it depends completely on the bolt & washer type used on them.

I like to use a combination of bolt head - split ring lock washer - stainless flat washer - intake manifold. If the bolt pad surface on the intake is very irregular then I might use a softer flat washer that will conform some to the manifold.
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