roller tip rocker arms... roller cam? cast #'s inside
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roller tip rockers, roller cam? looking for valve lash spec for solid lifters.
i took the valve covers off today and saw that the rockers are roller tipped i cannot identify them though.
the head casting number is 462624.
from mortec...
462624.....75-86...350/400......76cc chamber, 1.72/1.5, 1.94/1.5 or 2.02/1.6 valves
the block's casting number is 3970014
3970014....350...70-76...2 or 4 (bolt main)
they are stamped rockers and after measuring appear to be 1.5:1 (i will post pics later.
would the roller tipped rocker indicate that i the motor has a roller cam and roller lifters?
is there an easy way to tell if the lifters are hydrolic or solid without pulling the carb and intake manfold?
are the heads worth removing to port? i have a 3 week break from auto tech school so i might dig in and go all out.
i am trying to set lash, and several valves appear to be loose so i am thinking solid lifter
the head casting number is 462624.
from mortec...
462624.....75-86...350/400......76cc chamber, 1.72/1.5, 1.94/1.5 or 2.02/1.6 valves
the block's casting number is 3970014
3970014....350...70-76...2 or 4 (bolt main)
they are stamped rockers and after measuring appear to be 1.5:1 (i will post pics later.
would the roller tipped rocker indicate that i the motor has a roller cam and roller lifters?
is there an easy way to tell if the lifters are hydrolic or solid without pulling the carb and intake manfold?
are the heads worth removing to port? i have a 3 week break from auto tech school so i might dig in and go all out.
i am trying to set lash, and several valves appear to be loose so i am thinking solid lifter
Last edited by impaled; Jan 28, 2009 at 12:34 PM. Reason: forgot question
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Re: roller tip rocker arms... roller cam? cast #'s inside
If there's slack in the valvetrain, it's probably solid... unless it's hydraulic and it's been lashed wrong.
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Re: roller tip rocker arms... roller cam? cast #'s inside
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PS. I hope they didnt build a solid cam engine with go fast parts and those heads.
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Re: roller tip rocker arms... roller cam? cast #'s inside
Find a valve that's closed and tighten the rocker nut down, past zero lash. Hydraulics will have a bit of "squish" in them, on the pushrod side. Solid will immediatly start to open the valve.
Obviously you will have to re-lash.
Obviously you will have to re-lash.
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Re: roller tip rocker arms... roller cam? cast #'s inside
they are solid lifters. i dont know what the cam is, so what should i set the lash at? i have no idea...
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Re: roller tip rocker arms... roller cam? cast #'s inside
You pulled a lifter and verified? Solid flat tappet cams aren't that common, especially if someone did use crappy heads like that. Usually a solid cam is used when people really know what they're doing.
Hence, I HIGHLY doubt you have a solid cam, unless you post a picture of the lifter, and you verify that there's is no spring in the top. Ie you can't push a pushrod into the top AT ALL.
You can grab a rocker and rock it towards the cam with your bare hands. An experienced mechanic should be able to tell you if it feels like there's a spring or not.
Hence, I HIGHLY doubt you have a solid cam, unless you post a picture of the lifter, and you verify that there's is no spring in the top. Ie you can't push a pushrod into the top AT ALL.
You can grab a rocker and rock it towards the cam with your bare hands. An experienced mechanic should be able to tell you if it feels like there's a spring or not.
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Re: roller tip rocker arms... roller cam? cast #'s inside
You pulled a lifter and verified? Solid flat tappet cams aren't that common, especially if someone did use crappy heads like that. Usually a solid cam is used when people really know what they're doing.
Hence, I HIGHLY doubt you have a solid cam, unless you post a picture of the lifter, and you verify that there's is no spring in the top. Ie you can't push a pushrod into the top AT ALL.
You can grab a rocker and rock it towards the cam with your bare hands. An experienced mechanic should be able to tell you if it feels like there's a spring or not.
Hence, I HIGHLY doubt you have a solid cam, unless you post a picture of the lifter, and you verify that there's is no spring in the top. Ie you can't push a pushrod into the top AT ALL.
You can grab a rocker and rock it towards the cam with your bare hands. An experienced mechanic should be able to tell you if it feels like there's a spring or not.
i both misread (another's post) and misthought my previous post.
they are hydrolic lifters for sure. i pulled it apart (intake manifold and carb and a little more) and varified that they are hydrolic. the valve train is in rough shape though and i need to replace some things (if not most) and am starting another thread on the top end build.
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