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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

I was wondering if there is any kind of adapters to put on center bolt heads so they can be able to accept perimeter bolt valve covers? any help would be awesomee!
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-31500811/
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

For $110 it would be so much easier to just get the correct valve covers!

And note the description says that Narrow body rocker arms are required to clear the adapter.

But yes it does obviously exist.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

wow didnt think they run me $110 bucks thank you for the link
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

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For $110 it would be so much easier to just get the correct valve covers!

And note the description says that Narrow body rocker arms are required to clear the adapter.

But yes it does obviously exist.
Yes i do have the correct valve covers on my car now but i like the way the perimeter bolts look, also it says narrow body rocker arms if im installing roller rockers will they fit
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

a little better deal:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Trick...item4a9cbf78df
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

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Thanks for everythin, could i get explained the whole narrow rocker arm thing
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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You can't use full roller rocker arms. They are typically too fat.

You like the way perimeter bolt covers look? I'll admit that I'm a function-over-form guy, but I just can't see thinking perimeter bolt covers look better. And I'd never sacrifice better function for better looks, let alone better function for worse (in my opinion) looks.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

I'm not sure with the adapters but I am currently running full bodied full roller aluminum 1.5 rockers under a set of standard height cast aluminum center-bolt valve covers with no problems
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

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You can't use full roller rocker arms. They are typically too fat.

You like the way perimeter bolt covers look? I'll admit that I'm a function-over-form guy, but I just can't see thinking perimeter bolt covers look better. And I'd never sacrifice better function for better looks, let alone better function for worse (in my opinion) looks.
Well I am also a function over form type of person thats why im not going to buy these i will admit that i do like the look of perimeter bolt covers better but for$109 ill keep the centerbolts $109 could be put towards the set of roller rockers id like to get.
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

I put a set of those adapter's on a GTA, they work well, no leaks. I will say this though, the side bolt valve covers a hell of alot easier to get on and off with out taking alot of **** apart compared to the centerbolts.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

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I put a set of those adapter's on a GTA, they work well, no leaks. I will say this though, the side bolt valve covers a hell of alot easier to get on and off with out taking alot of **** apart compared to the centerbolts.
i dont think i understand, with centerbolts you remove those 4 easy to get to bolts and pull them off its not hard
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

Perimeter bolt valve covers......Leak, every brand of engine with those nasty things leak oil all over the place. I'm glad GM changed!!!
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

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Perimeter bolt valve covers......Leak, every brand of engine with those nasty things leak oil all over the place. I'm glad GM changed!!!

Couldn't keep gaskets sealed on my TFS perimeter bolt heads.Different brands of gasket , glued gasket to cover; the crankcase pressure of the 383 would blow the gasket out somewhere.
New heads ( same TFS ) are centerbolt ; not a leak in sight
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

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Perimeter bolt valve covers......Leak, every brand of engine with those nasty things leak oil all over the place. I'm glad GM changed!!!
My 327 in my 68 Camaro never leaked one bit....
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

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My 327 in my 68 Camaro never leaked one bit....
Did it have stock valve covers? If so you must really know how to put them on correctly, over-torque the screws just a little " like most people tend to do" and you bend the covers, then get a leak. The more solid cast covers did ok, but still not near as good as center bolts.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:06 AM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

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i dont think i understand, with centerbolts you remove those 4 easy to get to bolts and pull them off its not hard
Have you ever pulled the valve covers with the engine fully assembled in a 3rd gen?

On the driver side the alternator stud where you connect the large wire to the batt hits the lip on the centerbolts and you cant shift them forward/backward because of the supports on in the center go all the way down between the rockers. The passenger side, hahahaha, heater hoses air injection hoses, wiring harness the a/c compressor...tons of stuff in the way. With perimeter covers, yes it does take an extra minute or two to get the bolts out, but you can have to covers off in like 5 minutes.

We haven't had any problems with leaks on the side bolts. Using the Fel Pro rubber gaskets and the valve cover spreader bars. these beauties right here, http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TRD-4993/?image=large if anyone doesn' know what I am talking about
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

Originally Posted by 3rd gen Will
Have you ever pulled the valve covers with the engine fully assembled in a 3rd gen?

On the driver side the alternator stud where you connect the large wire to the batt hits the lip on the centerbolts and you cant shift them forward/backward because of the supports on in the center go all the way down between the rockers. The passenger side, hahahaha, heater hoses air injection hoses, wiring harness the a/c compressor...tons of stuff in the way. With perimeter covers, yes it does take an extra minute or two to get the bolts out, but you can have to covers off in like 5 minutes........
Sounds like a SERPENTINE BELT problem, not a valve cover problem. My 87 has center bolt valve covers, but the alternator is on the passenger side. All those air injection hoses are in the way, but that is an emissions parts problem, nothing to do with the valve cover style. They'd still be in the way, regardless of which valve cover was under them.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

Originally Posted by quick90rs
i dont think i understand, with centerbolts you remove those 4 easy to get to bolts and pull them off its not hard
You could get a set of carbon fiber center bot value covers. They run about $300.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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Re: Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers on Center Bolt Heads?

Originally Posted by Stephen
Sounds like a SERPENTINE BELT problem, not a valve cover problem. .
It is. My 1992 had serpentine and had the same issue. Getting the valve cover off was always a PITA, then when I swapped to the 350, I installed a nice set of chrome perimeter covers on - but still had the same issue. In fact, with the serpentine alternator on the driver side, the new chrome valve covers would touch that bolt on the alternator - so I had to remove the alternator and bang a ding in the corner of the valve cover to just have enough space there so that the bolt didn't touch, then I put a rubber vacuum cap on the bolt to keep the juice from arcing across tothe valve cover.

I have since swapped out for the 1/2 serp 1/2 v-belt brackets from the earlier IROCS, removed A/C, and relocated alt to pass side - problem solved for me.

FYI - the perimeter covers won't help you any, and may be worse (like mine were). It's a serpentine bracket/alternator issue.

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