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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

Hey guys, got a problem.

My iroc has been sitting in the garage for about 2 weeks not and I have not started it since. I went to start it yesterday and it started, but i had engine troubles. It sounded like it was not getting combustion in all cylinders, and the exhaust was smokin like a ****. Any ideas?

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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

What color smoke, and how long did you run it for?
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

Started for 10 seconds, then I stopped it, tried it for another 10 and stopped it again. Smoke was white Im pretty sure
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

How is your coolant level?
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

Right up full. But I set a few mice traps (Im in Canada and winter is coming) and got 2 mice over night. Could the problem be mice in the exhaust?
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

You checked the level in the rad?

You'd have to broil a mouse in the exhaust for a long time before it started giving off white smoke.
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

Rad is full.
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 11:44 PM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

Originally Posted by Apeiron
You checked the level in the rad?

You'd have to broil a mouse in the exhaust for a long time before it started giving off white smoke.
I lol'd.
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 11:58 PM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

Pull the plugs and see how they look, and try a compression test.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 06:49 AM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

You'd have to broil a mouse in the exhaust for a long time before it started giving off white smoke.
Does that mean the motor is running mousy?

Hot then cold then hot may have just built condensation in the pipes and the engine. If you have oil pressure, just let it run for a bit and see if it clears up.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 08:40 AM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

That's best to check all the plugs and if things look wrong then do a compression test. 2 weeks isn't that long so your fluids should all be still good. Just check the plugs and replace if you need to and let it run for a while.... keep us posted
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 08:44 AM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

Did you have any concerns or running problems two weeks ago when you shut it off?
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

No sir, ran perfectly fine.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 09:01 AM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

If you think about it, the only thing that could cause damage to the engine would be a lack of oil pressure and excess temperature. (You probably don't have to worry about temperature right now.........but do consider a coolant temperature sensor. Those effect the air/fuel mixture and seem to go out at the drop of a hat). Yes, it might run crappy; but running it will just mean that it runs crappy. I wouldn't push it too hard. You may find that one of your two little buddies had a snack prior to their untimely demise at the hands of the spring-loaded jaws of death................
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

How many miles on the engine and how long since a tune-up?
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

127xxx. Have no idea as to when the last tune up was.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

IMO, start it, let it get to operating temperature and see what it does at idle. You tune-up status may effect how well it runs.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

Ok I will try that later today. But how would a tune randomly go from purring to gargling?
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

One other trick is to get some octane boost. Now hang on - for those of you who are going to draw and quarter me for recommending that, let me finish. Octane boost won't do much for performance, but it DOES make the exhaust gases hotter which will free up sticking valves (EGR) and moving components. In addition, it will delay combustion which makes the explosion a little stronger.........
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 09:19 AM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

Is your garage heated? If not, moisture will build up all over the place. You may have arcing between the plug wires or something like that if the insulation is broken down. If I remember reading the initial post, you only let it run for about 10 seconds each time before you shut it off. This wouldn't be enough to clear out moisture.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

No my garage is not heated. I will let it run and warm up later today to see if the problem goes away once its heated up.
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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Re: Sat for 2 weeks, now this?

Ok started snowing today so I couldnt take it out and start it. I will let you guys know what happens once I do.
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