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gen 1 smc with ls1 firing order is it posible?

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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 09:06 AM
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gen 1 smc with ls1 firing order is it posible?

as the tiltle states jus curious
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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Re: gen 1 smc with ls1 firing order is it posible?

Sure its possible, but I dont think theres much point to it.
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 03:45 PM
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Re: gen 1 smc with ls1 firing order is it posible?

i was just curious i was figuring it was more efficient or something
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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Re: gen 1 smc with ls1 firing order is it posible?

Yep, its possible. Its called a 4/7 swap cam. I don't really see the point though.
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 12:39 AM
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Yep, its possible. Its called a 4/7 swap cam. I don't really see the point though.
That's what I said. And then deleted.

SBC (and BBC, for that matter):
1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2

7/4 swap:
1-8-7-3-6-5-4-2

LS1:
1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 01:13 AM
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Re: gen 1 smc with ls1 firing order is it posible?

Proponents of the 4/7 swap claim a small gain in power (5-6HP from a 750HP NASCAR SBC) by correcting the imbalance in manifold harmonics and the inherent cooling problems caused by two adjacent cylinders firing in sequence. Others say that they notice no appreciable difference. While it may feel good to know you've solved an age old engineering flaw, you will never know the difference in a street driven vehicle.
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 01:27 AM
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Re: gen 1 smc with ls1 firing order is it posible?

Originally Posted by ASE doc
Proponents of the 4/7 swap claim a small gain in power (5-6HP from a 750HP NASCAR SBC) by correcting the imbalance in manifold harmonics and the inherent cooling problems caused by two adjacent cylinders firing in sequence. Others say that they notice no appreciable difference. While it may feel good to know you've solved an age old engineering flaw, you will never know the difference in a street driven vehicle.
That's the explanation I've heard but intake harmonics aside, now you have 2/4 firing back to back so that rather negates the cooling problem argument.
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 01:55 AM
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Re: gen 1 smc with ls1 firing order is it posible?

Yes. But it's still advantagious not to have two cylinders at the rear extremity firing in sequence. Ever notice on stock SBCs how #5 & #7 exhaust valves are always the first to go? At least that's how proponents of the swap see it. Another supposed advantage is improved crankshaft harmonics which is claimed to free up power. I don't see where it's worth the trouble, unless you're racing and want to find every last ounce of power.
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