What mods for .500+ lift
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What mods for .500+ lift
What head work would i need to do to my stock heads to handle .495 lift on both intake and exhaust?
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
Depends on springs, and head. Might need to maching the top surface for spring cups, & maybe even the top of the guides if there is a clearance issue with the retainers.
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
Camshafts with more than 0.475" lift require machining valve guide bosses and checking valve seal to valve spring retainer clearance...
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
manely screw in studs, springs and retainers on stock heads will allow .525 lift of stock lb9 and l98 heads had the machine shop check to verify the lift.... i have these parts on my l98 heads in order to run the gm hotcam.. been running this setup for almost three years with no problems.... i will get part numbers for you shortly.....
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
manely screw in studs, springs and retainers on stock heads will allow .525 lift of stock lb9 and l98 heads had the machine shop check to verify the lift.... i have these parts on my l98 heads in order to run the gm hotcam.. been running this setup for almost three years with no problems.... i will get part numbers for you shortly.....
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
They also make different valve spring caps and retainers to allow higher lift.
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
Longer valve stem is THE ideal way to increase clearance but is .... somewhat invasive.
Offset keepers is another common technique. .050" offset, along with springs that have a high enough seat pressure, small enough wire to have plenty of clearance before coil bind, and a low enough rate, should get you there easily without having to machine the heads.
Offset keepers is another common technique. .050" offset, along with springs that have a high enough seat pressure, small enough wire to have plenty of clearance before coil bind, and a low enough rate, should get you there easily without having to machine the heads.
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
Comp 981-16 springs and newer chevy 4.3L v6 retainers will give you just up to .500 lift.
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
So if i just change the springs only would it handle the lift im wanting its because im not wanting to spend over $300 to make my heads to be able to hold the lift when with $500 i could buy a set of used heads that already handle the lift.
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
Springs only, probably not; the retainers will likely smack into the top of th eguides.
Springs + retainers + offset keepers to match + careful setup with a spring mic, probably so.
Springs + retainers + offset keepers to match + careful setup with a spring mic, probably so.
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
Oh and for that kind of work i would have to take it to a machine shop then?
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
Not really.
Buy the spring mic and a pack of shims, and springs (the 981s referred to above would be fine), and whoever's suitable retainers & keepers; doesn't too much matter whose, as long as you can be SURE they match. Do the labor yourself. That's how you keep it under $300, and have a tool to put in your box to boot, for the next time. Might as well also get some new valve guide seals in there while you have all that apart.
Buy the spring mic and a pack of shims, and springs (the 981s referred to above would be fine), and whoever's suitable retainers & keepers; doesn't too much matter whose, as long as you can be SURE they match. Do the labor yourself. That's how you keep it under $300, and have a tool to put in your box to boot, for the next time. Might as well also get some new valve guide seals in there while you have all that apart.
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
Not really.
Buy the spring mic and a pack of shims, and springs (the 981s referred to above would be fine), and whoever's suitable retainers & keepers; doesn't too much matter whose, as long as you can be SURE they match. Do the labor yourself. That's how you keep it under $300, and have a tool to put in your box to boot, for the next time. Might as well also get some new valve guide seals in there while you have all that apart.
Buy the spring mic and a pack of shims, and springs (the 981s referred to above would be fine), and whoever's suitable retainers & keepers; doesn't too much matter whose, as long as you can be SURE they match. Do the labor yourself. That's how you keep it under $300, and have a tool to put in your box to boot, for the next time. Might as well also get some new valve guide seals in there while you have all that apart.
You can rent the valve spring compressor from a number of parts stores.
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
this is what i had to buy in order for 520 lift
MAN-42106-16 screw in studs
MAN-23652-16 Retainers
MAN-22410-16 springs
i did all this plus installation then had the heads checked and a valve job.... it was around 600 for all this plus to recondition the head back to new... honestly your halfway there to excellent aluminum heads... if i had to do it over again i would have gone with the aftermarket head route..... not worth the money to have stock crappy heads reconditioned and trying to handle a lift of a cam thats not going to take full advantage of it.... if you think about it your really hurting yourself in the long run... i had to learn the hardway...
MAN-42106-16 screw in studs
MAN-23652-16 Retainers
MAN-22410-16 springs
i did all this plus installation then had the heads checked and a valve job.... it was around 600 for all this plus to recondition the head back to new... honestly your halfway there to excellent aluminum heads... if i had to do it over again i would have gone with the aftermarket head route..... not worth the money to have stock crappy heads reconditioned and trying to handle a lift of a cam thats not going to take full advantage of it.... if you think about it your really hurting yourself in the long run... i had to learn the hardway...
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Re: What mods for .500+ lift
this is what i had to buy in order for 520 lift
MAN-42106-16 screw in studs
MAN-23652-16 Retainers
MAN-22410-16 springs
i did all this plus installation then had the heads checked and a valve job.... it was around 600 for all this plus to recondition the head back to new... honestly your halfway there to excellent aluminum heads... if i had to do it over again i would have gone with the aftermarket head route..... not worth the money to have stock crappy heads reconditioned and trying to handle a lift of a cam thats not going to take full advantage of it.... if you think about it your really hurting yourself in the long run... i had to learn the hardway...
MAN-42106-16 screw in studs
MAN-23652-16 Retainers
MAN-22410-16 springs
i did all this plus installation then had the heads checked and a valve job.... it was around 600 for all this plus to recondition the head back to new... honestly your halfway there to excellent aluminum heads... if i had to do it over again i would have gone with the aftermarket head route..... not worth the money to have stock crappy heads reconditioned and trying to handle a lift of a cam thats not going to take full advantage of it.... if you think about it your really hurting yourself in the long run... i had to learn the hardway...
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