Ok so I have a 92 Camaro RS with a stock 305 and 700r4 auto trans...... I don't want to do a engine swap because that's the easy way out.... I want to just do some add on's, like heads, cam, lifters, headers, small things to add a little more power and wake my stock engine up some I'm hoping to get like 330 horsepower out of it after it's all said and done.... Had anyone every atempted what I'm about to and suceeded with a pretty fun ride? Or has everyone just junked the 305 and went with a 350? I hope to hear and maybe see some examples of what I want to do already done. Also the title was supposed to be performance 305

 

You'd be so much happier w/ a 350, you'd be much closer to your goals. I'd find a vortec 350 & freshen it up. That way you don't have to get new heads, just have them set up for higher lift cams.
Ever since they put efi on a 350, the 305 should have been discountinued, the fuel mileage is nearly the same & the power is better.

 

Yeah well I was considering putting a newer 5.3 in it out of a wrecked truck... but someone told me it would take alot of work and some cutting.... I just really want something different.. anyone can just put a ole 350 in it and be done but I want to surprise people when I lift the hood

 

TBI engines can support that power level, but not without some work. And it will come easier with a 350 than a 305. Since they're externally indentical nobody would know if you had installed a 350 (or a 383 or a 400!).

But to keep appearances 'stock' (keeping the TBI system) you have to go beyond just simple bolt-ons. You're talking the increase in displacement, plus heads and cam PLUS TUNING. Especially tuning. TBI systems don't run worth a damn on a modified engine without a good custom tune.

 

Well I really wanted to keep the 305 and just have a good road running car..... but I know it's going to be the cheaper route to just buy a 350 but I'd rather have a vortec 5.3 instead anyone know of someone with one in a 3rd gen camaro? I don't maybe it's cause a 350 is cheaper and more horsepower? All I know is I want to be able to drive it on the street without spending a fortune in gas.... ya'll know where I could find a cheap used motor... like a website to go to or something like that I know you can usually buy a pretty good motor out of a wrecked truck for like 600 to 800 dollars stock...... and it will come with the wiring harness and computer I think?

 

Well, honestly, if you are willing to do heads , cam etc. It is not that much harder to just pull the motor. I am sure you could do ok with a 305 though. Its up to you.

 

I appreciate ya'lls advice I enjoy talkin to other people that love camaro's like me and have lots of knowledge about them

 

Dude, I am a 305 patriot. Even I even I have to admit that trying to mod a 305 that much isn't worth it. And engine swap is cheaper, more efficent, and in the end you'll have more power. Too get 330hp out of that thing your gonna have to tear that block appart, replace/upgrade everything and then stoke it to 335. Then you might have 330hp. Maybe. Also no one will can visually see the difference between a 350 and a 305 when you pop the hood. So as far as being different goes, your better off suprising people with a nice clean 350 under the hood instead of the 305. It's just not worth it.

 

I also see that you are a new member. Welcome to TGO.

 

Here's my path: My IROC began life with an anemic/gutless LG4 (155hp). I wanted something better, so my goal was to make the LG4 the equivalent of an L69 (190hp, IIRC). I swapped in a Summit cam and an Edelbrock intake. I tweaked the Qjet with performance hangers and rods and threw on an L69 dual snorkel set-up (I was lucky enough to buy the ducts and hoses new from GM) as well as a complete L69 exhaust exhaust: manifolds, Y-pipe, high-flow cat, and intermediate pipe. Results? Much, much nicer.

Next was the swap to a 350HO Deluxe (330hp). At this moment in time, I wonder why I ever bothered wasting time, energy and money messing with the LG4. Hindsight is 20/20, though, right?

JamesC

 

I thank ya'll for being so nice.... and thanks I am new I used to be on here a while ago I'm only 23 and my names Adam... I love my car and want it to be a good driver but also whip up on them mustangs when they think they got something lol.... nobody answer my question though about where online I might be able go get a motor for a reasonable price? maybe even a place where the pull and sell them online out of a wrecked vehicle

 

Whats your price range?

 

330hp to the wheels out of a 305 all engine in neigh impossible. 330hp at the crank all engine has been done. chevy hipo did a write up on a 92 camaro that they reworked the 305tbi. they switched to vortec heads and shaved them down to bump compression outside of pump gas levels used a new high flow tb, and of course retuned the ecu. they made 257 to the rear wheels.....

 

if any one wants to look those articles up, its the "mission 305" articles in the june and sept '04 issues

 

from me, the only answer you will get is a $500 engine is a $500 engine and so on. If you go to a junkyard for an engine then you are getting a junkyard engine.

I'm from the school that if you are going through all the trouble of replacing an engine, don't toss in someone else' junk. Rebuild it prior to installing

As for whipping up on them stangs. I own a 3rd gen, 4th gen and 07 stang. You'll need a lot more than some ole truck 350 to beat my stang at the track.

 

I really don't know a price range just yet just shopping around for now.... I might just buy a 327 block from my brother and build it up.... it will be unique and run pretty good... it came out of a regal I think late 80's model.... it will be costly I know but unique that matters to me more than horsepower

 

If it came out of a regal it should be a olds 307 or a 305 chevy. A Vortec shortblock can still be bought for $1300 shipped (summit doesn't carry it anymore), you will need to call around to find one.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-12556121/

 

the short block doesnt determine whether its a vortec or not, the heads do....

 

Well Idk but it is a 327.... I'm on a new mission I think I'm about to purchase a 89 rs with a 383 stroker motor with about 600 horsepower for 2500..... or just the body and build a engine to put in it

 

That sounds AWESOME. And hard to believe. make sure you get the Dyno Sheet.

 

yeah he said he would let me get the body for 150 dollars since that's all he had in it.... it's like a navy blue with 2 white racing stripes...... it alos has T- tops I'm going to go check it out soon

 

Your right, Just calling it as listed in the GM performance parts catalog

 

I've been through the stock LG4, the hopped-up LG4, and the 350. I've recently gone through the LS1 process (akin to your 5.3 idea).

With all due respect to James, I now wonder why I bothered with the 350...

 

Where will the madness end?

JamesC

 

454 blown lsx?