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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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yea that wire needs to be connected, at the connections that i had in my 1st picture. You need to find that connection. Ill look on the net here in a min and link the conector you will need. That is definitly why your car is throwing codes
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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This isnt the same o2 sensor, but the end of the wire needs to have a connection like this on it.


I would think you could either try to find a connector off another o2 sensor or just buy a new sensor, to keep it a simple fix They can range in prices as cheep as 25 bucks

Dont pay attention to the amount of wires or the design of that picture, i just want ya to see what sort of connection your missing.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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ok, yea i found where it is supposed to go into easily, now its just a thing of buying a new one. would the sensor make it so my gets a weird exaust smell inside the car. it has always happened since my brother had it and its not bad but im just wondering if this was why.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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ok, yea i found where it is supposed to go into easily, now its just a thing of buying a new one. would the sensor make it so my gets a weird exaust smell inside the car. it has always happened since my brother had it and its not bad but im just wondering if this was why.
It could very possibly give you an exhaust smell inside the car. Otherwise start looking for a hole in your exhaust.

O2 sensors are cheap, and besides the broken wire, its likely shot anyway. Just replace it.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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Bad, or unhooked o2 sensors smell like bad eggs sometimes...LOL.. youll know if you have a exhaust leak on the V6's because they sound like crap.. If you have the $$ just get a new sensor, when you do fix the problem, you have to unhook the - bat terminal for a minuet then rehook it to reset the computer(which resets the code that the ECU was displaying)
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 05:06 PM
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alright. sounds all good then. the good thing is that i know the exhast isnt bad because my brother got a whole new one before he let it to waste because the old stock one rotted on him.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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alright. sounds all good then. the good thing is that i know the exhast isnt bad because my brother got a whole new one before he let it to waste because the old stock one rotted on him.
Good stuff, then all ya need to do is get that sensor/ new/ or fix the clip. and then hopefully youll be cool. Sont be chy to take videos, I love seeing other 91-92 V6 camaros!
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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heck yea, ill be making a video soon of my car of what it was/ is now. and how the engine is and moves. except i wont be recording with my crappy phone this time lol
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 05:28 PM
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k well gonna go buy the part needed and see what goes from there, considering its sucha nice friday tonight. really wish i had insurance on the car and liscence plates so i can go show off my ride :/ CAMAR0 MUSCLE!
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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I bet. Well dont feel bad..heres what my cat looks like at the moment.. In pieces..LOL



Let me know if the car get up and running right with the o2 sensor stuff
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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Well i changed it and no lights coming on now, and seems better, cant really tell if its blowing less smoke since the cole plus heat make smoke but tommorow i will. thank you for helping. My car is like New )))) let me record a video right now and show you guys how its looking interior wise, im trying to keep it all muscle except for some lights i inslalled, i dont wanna be a r i cerrrrr lol
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 10:01 PM
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Cool sounds good man! Did you unhook the - battery terminal and then hook it back up after you fixed the sensor? I love vids.. keep them coming.. Here my latest one from tonight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B88WiaGAhcc
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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dude, i am working on my 83 z28 for my senior project, thats so cool to know someone else is too
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 06:33 AM
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This thread is a great example of why I love this site! Nobody bad-mouthing a young guy trying to learn.

Good job getting it running GreenCamaro13! You did some great work and learned a lot from these guys!
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 06:39 PM
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Yea man this site is filled with awesome people, like a big family to me.
on another note, my maro is having a issue and i dont know where to begin. ok so i turned the car on while making a video that i was gonna show you fast, and i revd it just to hear the motor and went oustide and it died all of a sudden, i have a video of it hapening again. i dont know how much fuel i got because my fuel pump sender got busted but here is what happened?
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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dude, i am working on my 83 z28 for my senior project, thats so cool to know someone else is too

NICE MAN!! u graduating this year as well??
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 07:05 PM
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yeah man class of 2012, were all gonna die this year, but at least ill be able to say i have a camaro, hahahahahahahaha
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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Yea man this site is filled with awesome people, like a big family to me.
on another note, my maro is having a issue and i dont know where to begin. ok so i turned the car on while making a video that i was gonna show you fast, and i revd it just to hear the motor and went oustide and it died all of a sudden, i have a video of it hapening again. i dont know how much fuel i got because my fuel pump sender got busted but here is what happened?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMl42FmL1aU

Wow thats weird... Did you do the pin trick again and see if the computers throwing any codes??
Put a few gallons of gas in there to be sure. But thats weird what its doing... imma do a little research.
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Have you tried just starting it and holding it at a certaint higher RPM.. say 2000RPM and seeing if it still stalls, also you could just have crap in the bottom of the tank and it gets sucked into the pump. Id make sure you have enough gas, and see if you can keep it reved up in higher RPMs and see if it still stalls.

What i noticed when i had my car sitting for a long time is that even though i got it up and running, it still had some problems here and there from letting it sit for awhile. Took me a month to get the car reliable. Some problems happen soon, some happen in a few weeks of driving.


Also, when was that fuel pump replaced??? It just makes me think that there is a fuel problem because it just shuts off. Its like the prime that the fuel pump pushes before the car starts( when the fuel pump hums) is what is runnning the car for that short period, then its like it just shuts off completly???? Im jsut trying to think about whats wrong with it. If it was outta gas, it would studder alot!! Then die, same with any other problem in the fuel delivery, except if the pump was completly clogged or shut off.

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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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Have you tried just starting it and holding it at a certaint higher RPM.. say 2000RPM and seeing if it still stalls, also you could just have crap in the bottom of the tank and it gets sucked into the pump. Id make sure you have enough gas, and see if you can keep it reved up in higher RPMs and see if it still stalls.

What i noticed when i had my car sitting for a long time is that even though i got it up and running, it still had some problems here and there from letting it sit for awhile. Took me a month to get the car reliable. Some problems happen soon, some happen in a few weeks of driving.


Also, when was that fuel pump replaced??? It just makes me think that there is a fuel problem because it just shuts off. Its like the prime that the fuel pump pushes before the car starts( when the fuel pump hums) is what is runnning the car for that short period, then its like it just shuts off completly???? Im jsut trying to think about whats wrong with it. If it was outta gas, it would studder alot!! Then die, same with any other problem in the fuel delivery, except if the pump was completly clogged or shut off.
ok well ill go get some gas tommorow and put it in, but the codes it hsows nothing so its good. i think its just gas. oh btw do you have a extra fuel seniding ling so i can change the one thats in. so i can read how much gas im getting.
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 07:50 PM
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ok well ill go get some gas tommorow and put it in, but the codes it hsows nothing so its good. i think its just gas. oh btw do you have a extra fuel seniding ling so i can change the one thats in. so i can read how much gas im getting.
no ill look for one for you. Hold up a sec
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 07:52 PM
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I cant find one... or a cheep one at that matter, post on the classifieds here, the wanted section. See if anyone bits!
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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ok so i put the clip in to see any codes thrown out and whats popping up ONCE AGAIN is the Oxygen Sensor, But seems like gas is the problem here because it doesnt run long and dies even after i revd it up to 2k. i pushed the fuel line test point and just a little bit of gas came out so nothing. so here in a bit im going to go to the gas station and check this out. hopefully it all goes good. any suggestions?
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After the car is started, the oil pressure switch keeps the fuel pump running. I think your problem is in that area somewhere. Either the switch or it's wiring is bad, or there's not enough oil pressure.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 12:23 PM
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Also, did you pull the ECM fuse or disconnect the battery after you put in the new O2? If you didn't, code 13 from before will still be stored, even if the check engine light isn't on.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 12:25 PM
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but the weird thing is that it started before just wonderfull and ran and ran and ran. i think it has to be just lack of fuel considering i only put in 2 gallons to get it running dontcha think? where would the oil switch be at just to be sure?
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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or can this be a problem too?? this is also something idk if is right. ok so now that the injectors and block are in, the injectors arent evelny put in. some of them are sticking out more then others and im afraid air might be getting in. can this cause a issue?
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or can this be a problem too?? this is also something idk if is right. ok so now that the injectors and block are in, the injectors arent evelny put in. some of them are sticking out more then others and im afraid air might be getting in. can this cause a issue?

You gotta make sure that your injectors are all the way in. They should be in there even once you bold the fuel rail down. Fix that becaue that isnt right the way they are.

Even if you didnt reset the computer by unhooking the battery the car would still run. BUT RESET the computer..you unhook the battery for one minuet, then reconnect it!! You HAVE to do that to clear that code.

I wouldnt worrie about the oil pressure sensor(does it read ok?), mine went bad a year ago and once i figured out that i really had oil pressure, even though the guage read 10-30psi, I still drove it till I got a new sensor, then the pressure read fine. Averave in your car is from 40-60psi on the guage.



The oil pressure sensor is connected at the same spot your oil filter is. If you look from above the engine down twards the filter you will see it. Heres a pic of mine, dont mind the extra hose' is for the turbo. That black thing with the brass fitting on one end, and a wire harness on the other...that is your oil pressure sensor.


Get some gas for the car, and fix the injectors before you do anything else. Also did you connect all the wire harnesses well for the fuel injectors???/

Look for any weird looking connections under the hood where you were working.

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Originally Posted by fasteddi
You gotta make sure that your injectors are all the way in. They should be in there even once you bold the fuel rail down. Fix that becaue that isnt right the way they are.

Even if you didnt reset the computer by unhooking the battery the car would still run. BUT RESET the computer..you unhook the battery for one minuet, then reconnect it!! You HAVE to do that to clear that code.

I wouldnt worrie about the oil pressure sensor(does it read ok?), mine went bad a year ago and once i figured out that i really had oil pressure, even though the guage read 10-30psi, I still drove it till I got a new sensor, then the pressure read fine. Averave in your car is from 40-60psi on the guage.



The oil pressure sensor is connected at the same spot your oil filter is. If you look from above the engine down twards the filter you will see it. Heres a pic of mine, dont mind the extra hose' is for the turbo. That black thing with the brass fitting on one end, and a wire harness on the other...that is your oil pressure sensor.

Get some gas for the car, and fix the injectors before you do anything else. Also did you connect all the wire harnesses well for the fuel injectors???/

Look for any weird looking connections under the hood where you were working.

the oil pressure sender and the oil pressure switch are different things (at least on my car) one feeds the gauge, the other keeps the fuel pump on when the engine is running.
I had this same problem happen to my car and it took a little head scratching to figure it out. I think I had a loose connection at the oil pressure switch.

The ECM primes the fuel system at key on, and then after the engine is started, the oil pressure switch is what keeps the fuel pump on.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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the oil pressure sender and the oil pressure switch are different things (at least on my car) one feeds the gauge, the other keeps the fuel pump on when the engine is running.
I had this same problem happen to my car and it took a little head scratching to figure it out. I think I had a loose connection at the oil pressure switch.

The ECM primes the fuel system at key on, and then after the engine is started, the oil pressure switch is what keeps the fuel pump on.
I didnt know that..opps.

Still he says that his fuel injectors are in half backwards so I think he needs to fix that, set the code, and put gas in it first.

Wheres the oil pressure switch???
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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Im reading that on our 3.1L engines its the same connection for both. And it only goes into effect if the fuel relay is bad, then the oil has to be below 15psi to stop the fuel pump..
The OPS is a backup switch in the event that the fuel pump relay dies. If the relay dies, the fuel pump runs when the pressure switch senses enough oil pressure to close (about 15 PSI). The OPS also acts as the sending unit for the gauge or the switch for the idiot light in the dash.

Heres how to check the oil sender/switch.

It IS possible for the sender side to be bad while the switch still works (as in my case, where it has been that way for 2 months now). To make sure, all you have to do is listen for the fuel pump when you turn the car off (it will keep running until the oil pressure drops below 5 PSI), or try to start the engine with the fuel pump relay disconnected
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It looks like they are both in that general area on the 2.8.
As far as I can tell by the pictures in the service manual the sender for the gauge is above the fuel pump switch.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 05:39 PM
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It looks like they are both in that general area on the 2.8.
As far as I can tell by the pictures in the service manual the sender for the gauge is above the fuel pump switch.

Yea if he gets those injectors in right, gets gas, and resets the comp. then he might wana try and see if that might be his problem. By testing the sensor/switch. I know there dirt cheep. IIRC the one I bought last year was 15 bucks.

And really the way i read it that sensor only controls the fuel pump IF the fuel pump relay is bad.... So if that switch.sensor is bed then that means his fuel pump relay is bad.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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ok well yep it was the fuel. car started up fast after putting 2 more gallons. and guess what I GOT THE PLATES AND INSUURANCE so now i can drive the car about time! and as for the injectors i will get to it asap tommorow. the oil pressure is good so no prob there anyhow. and i got a question. will someone take a pic of there tranny mount so i can see where im going to be romiving it from. thanks. eddi you got some competition now haha just playing im nothing compared to yours.
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Re: Senior Project Camaro

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ok well yep it was the fuel. car started up fast after putting 2 more gallons. and guess what I GOT THE PLATES AND INSUURANCE so now i can drive the car about time! and as for the injectors i will get to it asap tommorow. the oil pressure is good so no prob there anyhow. and i got a question. will someone take a pic of there tranny mount so i can see where im going to be romiving it from. thanks. eddi you got some competition now haha just playing im nothing compared to yours.
Ill take a picture of mine tommorow afternoon. But ive got a automatic?? Why do you need to remove the tranny mounts??/

Thats awsome bro you got the car going again, yea fix up those injectors and have fun driveing the camaro!!!!

Take some vids.. those are always good!
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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my tranny mount is broke, my shift **** jumps up and down and it slows my shifts aloot. heck yea i drove my camaro and so many people stared my car down, jealous haha,
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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Re: Senior Project Camaro

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my tranny mount is broke, my shift **** jumps up and down and it slows my shifts aloot. heck yea i drove my camaro and so many people stared my car down, jealous haha,
LOL thats awsome. Well tranny mounts arnt that hard to replace. Ive never done them in a camaro but many mustangs.

Did you already get the new mounts, or do you still need to get them??

Thats awsome bro that yourve been crusing the camaro. I cant wait to drive mine again, its been awhile
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 07:04 PM
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still need to get them.
lol the only thing im scared of is the car all of a sudden messing up while im trying to show off lol.
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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LOL well just take it easy on her, till you get those tranny mounts on, its not hard at all, just put the car up on stands..then unloosen the bolts on the tranny mounts, then place a jack under the tranny(make sure its secure. Then remover the remaing bolts on the tranny mounts, and remove and replace new one.

Did you fix those injectors??? If not you really need to sometime soon before you run into problems there. You dont wana mess those things up. Or have a fuel leak that makes a nice fire under your hood.
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 04:34 PM
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fuel injectors- check
mount- not yet lol

i hope to get to it soon, but my shifts are coming out bettr.
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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well today i put a sound system in my car, not too loud, just perfect bass and not so loud so i can atleast hear the words of the track im playing lol
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 10:33 AM
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ALLright so quick question, ok so yesterday i completely filled my radiator with the cooling fluid and it was full, now this is my question. after running it and what not, i checked it and was a brownish color. i think its just the dirt and stuff built over the years so not too bad but what else could it be doing this?
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Re: Senior Project Camaro

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ALLright so quick question, ok so yesterday i completely filled my radiator with the cooling fluid and it was full, now this is my question. after running it and what not, i checked it and was a brownish color. i think its just the dirt and stuff built over the years so not too bad but what else could it be doing this?
Thats just the leftover dirty coolant that was in the engine. Same thing happened to mine after I flushed the thing and ran water through the whole system five times.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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ok,good to know. thanks man
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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If you clean out the radator system too good..LOL... you might start having leaks like I did, and still do because the crud was actually clogging up the corrosion in the system. I.E... I had to change 2 freeze plugs after i put my cam and heads on becasue i completly drained the anti.frez in the whole motor and flushed it a few times. I got so much gunk out of it..it was actually funny!!

Freeze plugs are not fun to change.... with the motor in the car!
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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dang haha. i will be recording a video of my car today and show you guys the process that has been made stay tuned.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 03:28 PM
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Glad everything is working out for you. I wish I had video-worthy progress on my car, here's an in progress pic:
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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car looks nice, none the less. love te headlights. i made a video and here it is, hope you all enjoy. chose a random song off a cd and there it is lol so dont judge me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Agl...7cAUAAAAAAAAAA
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 04:41 PM
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alright so i got some quick questions for some problems im running into. ok here it goes

At night low lights work just fine but when i try to turn on high lights its no good, any idea how to fix this?

also my heater makes a weird sharp noise sometimes idk where to begin looking.

any ideas? oh and this too im not sure if this is normal:

when i go to a stop and i start to go i go through 1st gear good then when i release the clutch and press the gas too fast sometimes it kicks back and forth, its only happened 2 times but why is it doin this? i dont press the gas alot i think i just press it too early or something
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 08:44 PM
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bump anyone know?
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