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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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bro you are in luck!!!!!!! this guy on here selling a V6 one, WITH the sensor slot already for 30$! PM this guy, tell him GreenCamaro Is keeping the other one,

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...1988-iroc.html
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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ok i PM'ed him i hope he still has it that would be SO sick.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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well guys, i hit the jackpot i found a guy selling this camaro, its about a 2 hour drive but tottally worth it. it has no engine but im going to use the parts for my camaro such as the front bumper, the hood, and more then likely the interor. I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THE T-TOPS because i want to have a car with them, so i might just save them incase i put t-tops on my car soon.
and what not, here she is:











Im picking her up for 350$, what do you guys think? this is the post under it:

83 Z-28 CAMARO PROJECT. CAR IS IN PRIMER AND BODY IS PERFECT THE CAR COMES WITH EXTRAHOOD, ALL THE MOLDING AND SPOILERS THE GAS DOOR HAS BEEN SHAVED. ALL THE BODY WORK IS DONE AND THE FLOOR IN THE REAR HAS BEEN REMOVED TO BE BACKHALVED ALONG WITH WITH THE FENDER WELLS SO ITS READY FOR SOME BIG TIRES THE CAR HAS NO MOTOR AND TRANNY
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 08:35 PM
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DEFF worth the money bro! snag that QUICK.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 08:35 PM
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I like it!! Let me know it ya get it. If you don't use some stuff I like to make some offers on stuff.... Looks like its in good shape though for 350 bucks!
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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no problemo.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 03:20 PM
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Alright im currently pulling off the intake manifold of my camaro, ALL OF IT lol, gonna get it cleaned up. while im doing this is there anything else i should do to get it ready for turbo? i am also changing head gaskets,
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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If your really serious about the turbo you need bigger fuel injectors for that build... 28lbs or so at least as thats what I have and im starting to hit the limit of them with 12psi of boost

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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 04:00 PM
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k, uploading a video of my progress, can you link up some fuel injectors thru ebay? reccommend me some, im not very educated about the whole fuel injectors man.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 04:00 PM
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i'd upgrade my internals aswell
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Mwr...hWbjT1T0NKJbvc=
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internals such as springs and what not? lol
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Re: Senior Project Camaro{Completed}

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internals such as springs and what not? lol

Are you planning on putting a cam in it? If not then don't worrie about the internals. The crank and rods are forged from the factory. And there not much else you can do unless you really want to tear into the motor.

But if your going to go that far to turbo it a cam set, some fresh valve springs/seal would help you make some Hp. Also port the heads if you can. Its not too hard.

Contact southbay injectors on here. Search for them on the members list. As they are the company to ask about injectors and you also get 10% off for being a TGO member.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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K man sounds good, im done for today, gonna get some rest before work, but it was fun lol, love being in the sun workin on my maro' Glad you guys can help me bro, really appreciate it. so while i have the whole intake off what should i do with it? to get all the carbon completely off?.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 04:31 PM
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K man sounds good, im done for today, gonna get some rest before work, but it was fun lol, love being in the sun workin on my maro' Glad you guys can help me bro, really appreciate it. so while i have the whole intake off what should i do with it? to get all the carbon completely off?.

southbay 08 is the username for southbay injectors if you want to search for them on the members list.

Do you mean on the out side or the inside of the intake?? On the inside, some good old brake cleaner?? a dremmel and some light sand paper will clean them up well also, but do not take much meterial off, just the carbon. Since your not porting them. J

ust for your own piece of mind put the gasket on the manifold...then use a sharpie marker or something to make where the meterial is overlaping the gasket then in reality you can take that meterial off with a dremel. If you want to port it. Mainly on the TB area, and the middle to lower intakes.

Like this.

These were not done in this pic but you should get the idea


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See all the extra meterial that can be removed??

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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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ahh i see, i will get to working on this hopefully tommorow, how long does it usually take to replace head gaskets? and will i have to remove the termostat housing and what not to reach the head gasket?
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And i plan on doing as you said (porting and polishing) to get most HP. Also, i might just paint my housing like you did but im thinking a chrome color, not sure yet though.
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Get your engine down to this.. it makes it much easier!! Also label everything and take pics

You need to replace every gasket you take off.

Just thought of it but do you have a active A/C system on your car?? Does it work?? If so try your best to work your way arround that air cond. stuff as you DO not want to crack a line or anything like that. I dont have a/c since I ditched it awhile ago since it didn't work.

It took me 6 hrs total to replace both my head gaskets a few months ago but I did it once before so plan on it takeing awhile and take your time!



Silver valve covers look nice IMO


Heres it with the heads off, and the timing chain cover/water pump off. U wont need to take the water pump/timing chain stuff off unless your adding a cam.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fasteddi;5253386Just thought of it but do you have a active A/C system on your car?? Does it work?? If so try your best to work your way arround that air cond. stuff as you DO not want to crack a line or anything like that. I dont have a/c since I ditched it awhile ago since it didn't work.

It took me 6 hrs total to replace both my head gaskets a few months ago but I did it once before so plan on it takeing awhile and take your time!

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Silver valve covers look nice IMO


Heres it with the heads off, and the timing chain cover/water pump off. U wont need to take the water pump/timing chain stuff off unless your adding a cam.

Well my A/C does not work lol, so how do i remove it? and what is a cam and what is the benifits? and how hard to install?
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Well my A/C does not work lol, so how do i remove it? and what is a cam and what is the benifits? and how hard to install?
First there may be refrigerent in the ac lines. That stuff will blind your eyes if you get it in them so wear safety glasses when you try to see if there IS any refrigerent in the system and dont look down at he valve when seeing if anything is in there.

Well "if" you want to just remove the a/c system, there is a few test ports on the hard lines(there aluminum) they look like that schrader valve that you have on the back of your manifold(the fuel press.one)

Ok now you need to carfully push down on one of the ports on the line with at lil screwdriver and see if theres any refrigerent in there. If there is a gas/liquid squrting out you might not want to ditch the ac as it may be another problem with your ac unit. If you push down the shrader valve and nothing comes out then just start taking everything off. Its as simple as that. There is a condenser in front of your radiator, a evaporater in your heaterbox on the firewall, all the alum lines, the a/c pump/compressor, the accumulator and I think theres a reciever also. Im not 100% sure about the reciever but basically take everything of that is connected by those aluminum lines.

The cam is not hard to install at all. The benifits?? MORE POWER to compliment the ported heads and the turbo if you do that.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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Ahh i see, and how do they look and where do i install them into? let me do some research, as for the A/C lines, tommorow for sure i will check them out.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 07:25 PM
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The cam??




See that single hole there on the face of the block??? Thats where she goes
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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AAhh, so its already in the engine, i was thinking i had to weld somehting lol, so i pull out the old and drop in the new, easy as that? cool.
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Yea its a delicate process but very easy. If you get that far in the build Ill help you along the way to make sure you get her out and in right. If I did it you can, as it was my first cam install on my car and 700 boosted miles later she still purrs like a kitten! LOL
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 07:46 PM
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k, can you link up a cam to start off with? lol sorry i keep asking you to choose what to buy but you have more knowledge on this lol and i trust in the items you choose.
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k, can you link up a cam to start off with? lol sorry i keep asking you to choose what to buy but you have more knowledge on this lol and i trust in the items you choose.

deltacam.com

this is the place to get the cam. I have the 260 grind. It cost 118 dollars shipped to my house. Its a nice mild cam and will work well with the turbo.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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awesome man! thxs bro. i got a list of all this stuff.. also i got a 240 $ refund from court stuff i guess i paid too much so im waiting for my check to come in, so ill have 1100$ to spend on my camaro, and im going to make this turbo stuff a reality after im done with turbo and heads, my next project will be to change the exaust.
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well actually minus 350 from that because im going to go pick up that 82 z28 but im sure ill get my money back from selling parts off it on here or no? i cant wait
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1100 bucks thats about what i've spent on my car in total. For everything Ive done to it over the past year. Thats a good amount of cash to build that car up!

IMO sell the parts unless you need certain things.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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sounds like a plan, any parts you want me to put on hold for you?
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 05:06 PM
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Ok Well i encountered a problem while changing my head gasket, i got the right side valve cover off. This is what i found:

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you should have went to autozone, rent one of the head gasket test kits and see if your head gasket leaks
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Hey Bro check your oil asap, look to see if its got that fluid in it. If so, its not too big of a deal, you just need to replace the head gaskets on both sides. And your close to having enough stuff off to do it anyways.

Also if there is coolent in the oil youll know when you drain the oil as the water/coolent will sink to the botton and will literly look green/milkish coming out. So just go ahead and drain the oil, better to be safe then sorry.

Let me know what you find. Dont feel bad I blew my head gasket a few months ago and had to deal with a horrible milky mess in the oil.
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well i checked the dipstick and there was nothing, so im just going to drain all the oil, anyways im still onto changing the rear main seal after this project so it will all come together. yea im going to replace every gasket, at 50$ for a gasket set its not bad ( a head gasket set for my 99 merc sable was 160$ :/) so all worth the money. ok so now that i got that side and the other pretty much off, now do i remove those springs,?
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The springs on the heads?? You need to take the heads off to remove them the easy way. there a special vale spring removal tool but I rigged up my own..lol

After you drain the oil out let me know what your see.
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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k. will get on that tommorow if the weather lets me, i go to work in half a hour so im going to chill a bit. thxs! im excited for sunday, to get the z28.


BTW where did you get your valve covers at bro?
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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And Also, the AC lines had nothing in them so im going to remove it, what do i do with the big part that is turned by the belt? do i take that all off to or just the thing behind the belt rotator?
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My valve covers are stock, i just sanded them down and painted them with a few coats of silver topped with some clear coat, all heat paint stuff.

If there wasent anything in the lines take it all off includeing the compressor that the belt turns. That will clean up the engine bay alot. You will need a new belt though thats shorter, ill get my part ## of mine and link it to ya, there like 15 bucks but its worth it to get rid of stuff that doesnt work
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k man sounds good please do.
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damn that would be a wast to part out that 83. i would totaly build that one up and ditch that common run of the mill 91 rs. u dont see the earlier 3rdgens at all anymore. plus it looks like it has wayy more work done on it than yours lol. or build them both. its a Z28!!
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 08:44 PM
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Re: Senior Project Camaro{Completed}

You know what your could do?? Get that z28 which is a sweet car. And build up that V6 you got the way I wanted mine. Making 300Hp+ and make it a suttle sleeper, just saying.
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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ehh, i would if i knew more about trannys and engine, but i see it as way more work to do. and this camaro i got now runs deep in the family thats why i never got around to selling it like i was going too. but i am going to save the car and when i get more knowledge i will build it. but for time being, my 91 is my priority.
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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Re: Senior Project Camaro{Completed}

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You know what your could do?? Get that z28 which is a sweet car. And build up that V6 you got the way I wanted mine. Making 300Hp+ and make it a suttle sleeper, just saying.
how did you want yours bro? im guessing you mean with the body kit? lol
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Old May 1, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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but I did it once before so plan on it takeing awhile and take your time!



ok quick question,what is that fluid resivoir for that is on the top side of the belt rotator that is on the far right?

not the power steering fluid, the one on the left side of that in the black container?
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Old May 1, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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Brake fluid!
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Old May 1, 2012 | 08:50 PM
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ahaha wow now i feel stupid, when i removed the a/c i saw it for the 1st time. it was COVERED it oil haha
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Old May 2, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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can someone tell me the head bolt pattern? and a good way to remove them, mine are freakin hard to even loosen :/
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Old May 2, 2012 | 02:35 PM
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Theres no pattern to take them off.... Those things are really on there.... 70 or so ft/lbs, so use a breaker bar as thats what I used and make sure you have the right socket..i think its a 15mm or somthing like that. I know its metric. Then just take it easy with the breaker bar, and give her helll. They'll come off.
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k, should i replace them or will the same ones do? i really hate how my back is aching lol. i took off the a/c lines, now need to remove canister and the band thing. what size of band do i use now?
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