Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

87 TPI car, turns over, no start

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 9, 2012 | 07:28 PM
  #1  
GPSkinzhut's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
From: Knoxville, TN
Car: 87 IROC Z, 2010 2LT
Engine: 305 TPI, 3.6 V6
Transmission: 5-Spd, 6-Spd
Axle/Gears: G92 3.45
87 TPI car, turns over, no start

Tried searching, not finding something specifc

Here's the rundown:

Car has died just randomly 4x in the last week. The other 3x it has fired right back up, now, sadly, it's toast.

FP primes, have pressure at the rail, have 12v on the injectors. Not fuel. Shot some starting fluid down the intake, not even a sputter. Pulled a plug, No spark at the plug, no spark at the coil wire if I remember correctly either.

Changed out the ICM, no change. Battery is just about kaput now on top of it.

i'm looking at an ignition diagram from the GM service manual, but I'm not sure what I should be looking for to troubleshoot next.
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2012 | 07:48 PM
  #2  
Tuned Performance's Avatar
Sponsor
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Community Favorite
iTrader: (94)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 16,738
Likes: 994
From: Mile High Country !!!
Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: 87 TPI car, turns over, no start

id you replace the pickup coil when you did the icm? If the ecm is not receiving a pulse from the distributor the injectors will not fire. So you should check ot the coil primary and secondary resistance and the resistance of the pickup coil as well as power to the coil.

http://easyautodiagnostics.com/gm_ic...n_module_1.php
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2012 | 08:07 PM
  #3  
GPSkinzhut's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
From: Knoxville, TN
Car: 87 IROC Z, 2010 2LT
Engine: 305 TPI, 3.6 V6
Transmission: 5-Spd, 6-Spd
Axle/Gears: G92 3.45
Re: 87 TPI car, turns over, no start

Perfect! No I hadn't replaced the pickup-coil. I'll jump on this tomorrow when there's daylight. Thanks, i'll post up how it goes.
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2012 | 10:17 PM
  #4  
Tuned Performance's Avatar
Sponsor
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Community Favorite
iTrader: (94)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 16,738
Likes: 994
From: Mile High Country !!!
Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: 87 TPI car, turns over, no start

start with getting spark , I learned the hard way replace the pickup coil with the icm every time. check for power to the coil and check out the coil resistance first before you yank the distributor.
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2012 | 03:24 PM
  #5  
z28romance's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
From: massachusets
Car: 87 z28 stock
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
Re: 87 TPI car, turns over, no start

try cleaning the wire and the bracket for the coil. I had a similar situation that was caused by rust. all I did was clean the bracket for the coil and bolted back on. it worked pisser.
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2012 | 07:57 PM
  #6  
GPSkinzhut's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
From: Knoxville, TN
Car: 87 IROC Z, 2010 2LT
Engine: 305 TPI, 3.6 V6
Transmission: 5-Spd, 6-Spd
Axle/Gears: G92 3.45
Re: 87 TPI car, turns over, no start

Under hood is very clean, and almost everything was disassembled and painted 2 years ago.

The coil was getting 12v in, and 12v at the module, and since it was a new MSD streetfire unit (2 months?), I dismissed it. Was getting ready to pull the dizz and decided to swap in the old coil just for the hell of it and it fired right up.



Thanks for the help all. If for some reason this condition resurfaces I'll re-open this. For now I'm going to go have a beer and try to not be pissed.
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2012 | 08:21 PM
  #7  
Tuned Performance's Avatar
Sponsor
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Community Favorite
iTrader: (94)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 16,738
Likes: 994
From: Mile High Country !!!
Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: 87 TPI car, turns over, no start

drink one for me
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2012 | 01:12 AM
  #8  
MAC_87's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
From: Modesto, California
Car: 1987 IROC-Z
Engine: 5.7L
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: 87 TPI car, turns over, no start

Make sure your battery connections are secure. i had this problem and it turned out the positive was loose.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Steven 86IROC-Z
DFI and ECM
8
Mar 28, 2026 06:42 PM
Spyder_TheGamer
Tech / General Engine
1
Dec 25, 2015 05:07 PM
Wade787b
TPI
2
Sep 29, 2015 01:15 PM
Brcharrelson
TPI
15
Aug 26, 2015 07:47 PM
NBrehm
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
1
Aug 25, 2015 11:49 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:09 PM.