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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 01:06 AM
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solid roller cam for a roller block

I have a Dart SHP 400 block which I believe is setup for a roller cam. I would like a solid roller cam for it.

When I look on Comp Cams website they have hydraulic roller cams pre-fixed with an 8 (e.g. 8-xxx-8), these are for OEM roller blocks. Their cams for pre-roller blocks are numbered 12-xxx-8. For solid cams they don't seem to have a cam to fit a roller block, they only have 12-xxx-8 numbered cams.

I think these will fit with a cam button, but are there any solid roller cams for a roller block that are installed the same way as the OEM cam with a lock plate?

Thanks for any help.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 01:13 AM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

It will be set up the same way as a non roller block. You'll just need a roller cam button and bronze distributor gear. Also since solid lifters are heavier than hydraulics and the rpm range is typically higher you will need much stiffer springs.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 01:14 AM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Oh...I also use a cam sprocket with the bearing behind it.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 09:49 AM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

See if you can get an iron or everwear gear. Avoid billet cam gears
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 10:09 AM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Comp may be able to grind the stepped nose into a shelf solid roller grind. I would call and ask.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 10:30 AM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Yeah, Call comp and ask. I doubt your the first one do want to do this.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 01:44 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

OK thanks, I live in New Zealand so calling is a bit of a pain (but not impossible).
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 01:45 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Try e mail.

http://www.compcams.com/tech-help/Support.aspx

They even have a live chat that is avalible now on the link provided.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 01:50 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Or email mike jones at jones cams. Sure he can do whatever you need for similar price and get a much better custom grind for that application
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 01:54 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ
Or email mike jones at jones cams. Sure he can do whatever you need for similar price and get a much better custom grind for that application
Didn't he have a rap song with his phone number in it?
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Email, that's a good idea :-)
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

The oem hydraulic roller cam has a tighter bolt pattern for the cam sprocket so modifying the cam won't work. You would need a completely custom cam. So why not just use a cam button.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Originally Posted by Johnny Blaze
Didn't he have a rap song with his phone number in it?
Haha a different mike jones but yes there was one
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ
Haha a different mike jones but yes there was one
Every time someone mentions his cams, I think of that song!
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Did you find a cam?
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

i have a nice retrofit solid roller that would work well on a 400 if interested.
Billet...60 mi on it.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Originally Posted by Johnny Blaze
Did you find a cam?
Tossing up between a comp XR286R and XR292R, or we do have a custom grinder in town that has quite a good reputation. The AFR210s it seems have good exhaust flow and quite like symmetrical cams. I have a little while before I have to finally decide.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 02:58 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
i have a nice retrofit solid roller that would work well on a 400 if interested.
Billet...60 mi on it.
What timing?
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 03:23 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Originally Posted by Cosmik Debris
Tossing up between a comp XR286R and XR292R, or we do have a custom grinder in town that has quite a good reputation. The AFR210s it seems have good exhaust flow and quite like symmetrical cams. I have a little while before I have to finally decide.
There's absolutely no reason why you should go with a shelf cam when you've got that available to you. Get "the shoe that fits" as opposed to "something that's sorta close".
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 07:45 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Originally Posted by DeltaElite121
There's absolutely no reason why you should go with a shelf cam when you've got that available to you. Get "the shoe that fits" as opposed to "something that's sorta close".
Yeah, I think you are right. I'll have a chat with them.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 10:05 PM
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Re: solid roller cam for a roller block

Your local guy can grind you a "custom"; so can Comp, Bullet, and any number of other competent grinders. $25 and it's a piece o cake.

Trick is, getting the RIGHT "custom" to match what YOUR motor wants. You can screw up just as bad with a "custom" grind as you can with a "shelf" one.

WHo knows, you might find that some "shelf" grind, just put onto the blank for your motor, might be just what you need.

Call as many as you can, be honest with em about what you've got and what your goals are; odds are, the ones that know what they're doing won't be too far off from each other, and you won't have much trouble telling who has a handle on your situation or not.
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