Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
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Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
Hi, I am thinking of getting a Head and Cam Package from either Edelbrock or Trick FLow.
Which is the better kit? Out of the kits they offer which is the better package, How Many horse should I be looking for so the car is still street able and reliable.
The car is not a daily Driver less then 1,000 Miles a year but I still want it to be reliable for day to day use.
They both offer different levels of kits. Are they Complete, Should I have everything I need to make it work. Thanks
Which is the better kit? Out of the kits they offer which is the better package, How Many horse should I be looking for so the car is still street able and reliable.
The car is not a daily Driver less then 1,000 Miles a year but I still want it to be reliable for day to day use.
They both offer different levels of kits. Are they Complete, Should I have everything I need to make it work. Thanks
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
Neither has a good cam. Not for any purpose other than taking your money.
Both have good heads. For different purposes; but "good" at least.
Pick the heads you want and get some other cam.
Both have good heads. For different purposes; but "good" at least.
Pick the heads you want and get some other cam.
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
WHat is wrong with the cam's? I like the idea of a Package, I guess I could put something together my self. Are either of the cams close to a Comp XE 268 Cam? Depending on the Package Lvl they have different cams in them.
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
Are either of the cams close to a Comp XE 268 Cam?
Well,, ..... ,,, .. in all fairness, they do have the same # of lobes....
What are you thinking comes in a "package" besides the parts? If the parts aren't what you want, what good is the "package"?
Focus on the parts. If the "package" doesn't have good ones, then buy them some way other than a "package".
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
The 2 trickflow packages have either a tiny cam or a huge cam. Neither of which I would ever personally use.
If you like the comp xe268 look into a set of profiler 185cc heads. They really are by far the best bang for the buck and made in the USA.
http://www.profilerperformance.com/r.../sbc-23-degree
The dart shp heads are supposed to be pretty good and inexpensive, but I have personally never used them.
Get a performer rpm or airgap manifold and a holley style 650 dp carb and your set.
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
My Buddy has a brand new Comp XE 274 he will sell to me for $ 75.
Well what would I need, I would like to order everything at once and have it ready to Go,
SO I would need,
Roller rockers 1.5? What kind?
Need Push Rods what size and brand?
Heads prob come with valves and Springs, Right Springs for cam?
Need Cam Which one? Lifters What ones?
Gaskets once again what ones?
Head Bolts what ones?
There are so many choices, figured a kit would be easier, How bad are the cams in there kits? Can I get just a head kit that has all of that stuff minus the cam and then I choose my own?
My Motor is a Low Comp GM 85 and earlier Replacement block.
What Size Intake Ports, What size chambers?
I just don't know what all to get and how to match it right.
I have a 650 Ultra DP on the car now along with a MSD Billet HEI.
Well what would I need, I would like to order everything at once and have it ready to Go,
SO I would need,
Roller rockers 1.5? What kind?
Need Push Rods what size and brand?
Heads prob come with valves and Springs, Right Springs for cam?
Need Cam Which one? Lifters What ones?
Gaskets once again what ones?
Head Bolts what ones?
There are so many choices, figured a kit would be easier, How bad are the cams in there kits? Can I get just a head kit that has all of that stuff minus the cam and then I choose my own?
My Motor is a Low Comp GM 85 and earlier Replacement block.
What Size Intake Ports, What size chambers?
I just don't know what all to get and how to match it right.
I have a 650 Ultra DP on the car now along with a MSD Billet HEI.
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
Are the Cam Specs that different between these two cams?
http://www.trickflow.com/partdetail....5&autoview=sku
http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/c...x?csid=86&sb=2
http://www.trickflow.com/partdetail....5&autoview=sku
http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/c...x?csid=86&sb=2
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
My Buddy has a brand new Comp XE 274 he will sell to me for $ 75.
Well what would I need, I would like to order everything at once and have it ready to Go,
SO I would need,
Roller rockers 1.5? What kind? 1.5
Need Push Rods what size and brand? head manufacturer will tell you
Heads prob come with valves and Springs, Right Springs for cam? Tell head manufacturer the cam size and they will get you the right springs.
Need Cam Which one? Lifters What ones? I like the lunati 60103 for you or a comp XE268H. Just buy the cam and lifter kit.
Gaskets once again what ones? The head manufacturer and or directions will tell you what gaskets to get
Head Bolts what ones? see previous answer
There are so many choices, figured a kit would be easier, How bad are the cams in there kits? Can I get just a head kit that has all of that stuff minus the cam and then I choose my own?
My Motor is a Low Comp GM 85 and earlier Replacement block.
What Size Intake Ports, What size chambers? 185 - 195 ports and 64cc chambers
I just don't know what all to get and how to match it right.
I have a 650 Ultra DP on the car now along with a MSD Billet HEI.
Well what would I need, I would like to order everything at once and have it ready to Go,
SO I would need,
Roller rockers 1.5? What kind? 1.5
Need Push Rods what size and brand? head manufacturer will tell you
Heads prob come with valves and Springs, Right Springs for cam? Tell head manufacturer the cam size and they will get you the right springs.
Need Cam Which one? Lifters What ones? I like the lunati 60103 for you or a comp XE268H. Just buy the cam and lifter kit.
Gaskets once again what ones? The head manufacturer and or directions will tell you what gaskets to get
Head Bolts what ones? see previous answer
There are so many choices, figured a kit would be easier, How bad are the cams in there kits? Can I get just a head kit that has all of that stuff minus the cam and then I choose my own?
My Motor is a Low Comp GM 85 and earlier Replacement block.
What Size Intake Ports, What size chambers? 185 - 195 ports and 64cc chambers
I just don't know what all to get and how to match it right.
I have a 650 Ultra DP on the car now along with a MSD Billet HEI.
Just call profiler. They will tell you everything you need. Its no more complicated than that.
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
I guess push rods will have to be sized after motor is together. Trick FLow heads are 64 CC and 195 Ports.
What is the deal if I want to switch to a Roller cam? What do i need?
Is it worth it?
What is the deal if I want to switch to a Roller cam? What do i need?
Is it worth it?
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
I had a set of trick flow heads and was very happy with them. You can port them out without going to thin in important areas, unlike AFRs the valve seals aren't under oil, the valve cover perimeter is higher so you can use stock height valve covers. Mine were 195s but the profiler heads in 195 I think are cheaper and the same performance.
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
Heads I am looking at are 195 and 64 Cambers, Online it says they are Angled Plug, when I called I was told they were straight. What were yours?
I have Straight now, I am not sure if Angled would work.
I have Straight now, I am not sure if Angled would work.
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
You really want angled or "L98 style" it will make working with spark plugs and large headers much easier. I had a set of world heads that were straight plugs and I had to run the accel "shorty style" plugs.
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
So Angled is better in our cars?
I read though the Link I am still confused, WOuldnt 64 CC heads bump the compression to the low to mid 9's?
I read though the Link I am still confused, WOuldnt 64 CC heads bump the compression to the low to mid 9's?
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Re: Trick Flow VS Edelbrock Head and cam packages, Which one?
With those pistons and timing events matter for the cam/compression ratio AND the VOLUME with those pistons with the valve reliefs being what they are and finally the piston's being .025 in the hole all add up to being against you because of the quench.Then no knowing if Goodwrench is using standard re-builder pistons which has all the wrong piston pin height and if they do,that is a double negative towards any performance outcome.
http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Quench
http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Quench
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