newbie here, just got a camaro few days ago
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Car: 1991 z28 camaro
Engine: 350 TPI
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newbie here, just got a camaro few days ago
Recently I jumped on 1991 camaro z28 I found on craigslist, he wanted $300 but on christmas day he called and told me I could have it(best present I've ever got
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It's the 350 tpi with auto transmission.
It has a cracked windshield, one dent on the passenger side, broken steering column, interior is actually pretty clean.
I was considering turning it into a drag car,(carb'd, stroker etc...)
But how fast can a TPI be? I've heard the intakes choke the engine at high rpms? There's gotta be aftermarket intakes to cure that though right?
If I kept TPI, I would want it to run low 14's or hopefully high 12's/low 13's.
Could that be done without spending a lot?
) It's the 350 tpi with auto transmission.
It has a cracked windshield, one dent on the passenger side, broken steering column, interior is actually pretty clean.
I was considering turning it into a drag car,(carb'd, stroker etc...)
But how fast can a TPI be? I've heard the intakes choke the engine at high rpms? There's gotta be aftermarket intakes to cure that though right?
If I kept TPI, I would want it to run low 14's or hopefully high 12's/low 13's.
Could that be done without spending a lot?
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Re: newbie here, just got a camaro few days ago
TPI is not a good performance intake system. It is EXTREMELY modification-hostile.
However, there are other EFI intakes you can get, that require very little modification of anything else; unlike for example, yanking it off and slapping a carb on it, which I would NOT recommend.
The Holley Stealth Ram is probably the best combo of performance & price for one of these cars. It does away with the RPM-limiting "feature" of TPI, but costs less and causes less trouble than a carb, intake, distributor, fuel pressure regulator, and untold wiring and plumbing nightmares. And has the potential to feed a FAR more potent engine than a stock 350, for when you decide (as we all seem to, eventually!!) that you're not going fast enough yet.
But first... I'd suggest leaving the engine alone if it still works, and concentrate on bring the rest of the car up to snuff. Don't "fix" stuff that isn't broke, while other stuff that IS broke stays that way.
Spend your money where it will do the most good.
However, there are other EFI intakes you can get, that require very little modification of anything else; unlike for example, yanking it off and slapping a carb on it, which I would NOT recommend.
The Holley Stealth Ram is probably the best combo of performance & price for one of these cars. It does away with the RPM-limiting "feature" of TPI, but costs less and causes less trouble than a carb, intake, distributor, fuel pressure regulator, and untold wiring and plumbing nightmares. And has the potential to feed a FAR more potent engine than a stock 350, for when you decide (as we all seem to, eventually!!) that you're not going fast enough yet.
But first... I'd suggest leaving the engine alone if it still works, and concentrate on bring the rest of the car up to snuff. Don't "fix" stuff that isn't broke, while other stuff that IS broke stays that way.
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Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
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Re: newbie here, just got a camaro few days ago
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...formation.html
As the man said above
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/alte...gal-whats.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...48-post11.html
There are other choices
http://www.tpis.com/parts/view/33
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/afte...rying-set.html
Define " a lot " ?
As the man said above
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/alte...gal-whats.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...48-post11.html
There are other choices
http://www.tpis.com/parts/view/33
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/afte...rying-set.html
Define " a lot " ?
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Car: 1991 z28 camaro
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Re: newbie here, just got a camaro few days ago
By "a lot" I mean, I'll only be able to buy parts every couple of months.
Until I finally get it street legal, Then I could sell my V6 mustang for $2500, maybe more since the engine is rebuilt and it has some other mods done to it.
As for the stealth ram, would it peform good on a mild 383?
When I have the cash from selling my car, I could also check out the salvage yard, Maybe I could pick up a LT or LS parts car.
Until I finally get it street legal, Then I could sell my V6 mustang for $2500, maybe more since the engine is rebuilt and it has some other mods done to it.
As for the stealth ram, would it peform good on a mild 383?
When I have the cash from selling my car, I could also check out the salvage yard, Maybe I could pick up a LT or LS parts car.
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Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
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Re: newbie here, just got a camaro few days ago
Have a lot more potential than a TPI unless you invest some serious $$$ in it;
in which case you would buy this intake
https://www.firstfuelinjection.com/services.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/alte...ction-tpi.html
in which case you would buy this intake
https://www.firstfuelinjection.com/services.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/alte...ction-tpi.html
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Re: newbie here, just got a camaro few days ago
Congrats!!!
Make sure brakes work well at full leg pressure...
Nitrous 100hp
Sticky drag radial tires
A stock, properly running tpi 350 will go low 13's with a 100 shot of nitrous and sticky tires.
Making the transmission survive is important. Do a fluid check, maybe put a new filter/fluid/shift kit.. Maje sure the TV cable is adjusted properly..
Dint waste any cash on that engine if you have big plans for a complete engine swap..
Make sure brakes work well at full leg pressure...
Nitrous 100hp
Sticky drag radial tires
A stock, properly running tpi 350 will go low 13's with a 100 shot of nitrous and sticky tires.
Making the transmission survive is important. Do a fluid check, maybe put a new filter/fluid/shift kit.. Maje sure the TV cable is adjusted properly..
Dint waste any cash on that engine if you have big plans for a complete engine swap..
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Re: newbie here, just got a camaro few days ago
TPI was just a bad idea. LOL I've had 2 C4 corvettes with these engines. Their great out of the hole. ( they used to call them torque monsters) but above 70 they have as much trouble breathing as a 70 year old smoker. Also they can be a headache when something to do with the TPI malfunction. LOL I don't run fuel injection on my builds, mainly cause I don't know enough about installing them. LOL The easiest way is to just build a badass 383 with a carb. I've had 3 cars with a 383 in them. A C4 corvette, which kept it's tuned port, an 84H.O. Z/28 and regal. The C4 was a basket case with a tuned port on top of a 383, mainly cause there is no one in my area who knows how to tune and modify TPIs. Unless your really comfortable doing PC work you might want to stick with a carb.
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Car: 1991 z28 camaro
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Re: newbie here, just got a camaro few days ago
update: the camaro started up first try, after we found a battery for it. Had problems idling, but never died.(might be the old gas) It also has low oil pressure.
Sounded pretty loud though with no cats or mufflers.
Sounded pretty loud though with no cats or mufflers.
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From: Not in Kansas anymore
Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
Re: newbie here, just got a camaro few days ago
I listed the available alternative perf intakes above
100Hp difference over a stock TPI on a built 383 IF you use the right intake
See
http://xtremecarzone.com.au/index.php?showtopic=386
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Re: newbie here, just got a camaro few days ago
If you were after performance you wouldn't run a stock TPI on a 383 unless you were building a truck motor ,regardless of the tune
I listed the available alternative perf intakes above
100Hp difference over a stock TPI on a built 383 IF you use the right intake
See
http://xtremecarzone.com.au/index.php?showtopic=386
I listed the available alternative perf intakes above
100Hp difference over a stock TPI on a built 383 IF you use the right intake
See
http://xtremecarzone.com.au/index.php?showtopic=386
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