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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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ignition cylinder removal issues

Ive read plenty of threads about removing a ingition cylinder, and successfully removed the one on the 88 steering column i bought, but im having issues with the column out of my car a 89. I pulled the steering wheel on my car the same way i pulled it on 88 column, but im unable to get to the ring for the lock pad. I cant seem to get a picture to upload but it's a metal piece that looks like the steering wheel sets into... any help would greatly appreciated, thanks yall.
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 06:50 AM
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Do you have this?
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 10:42 AM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

Yes i do, i got the ignition out of a 88 column no problem. Ill try to upload a picture of whats stoppong me
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 11:00 AM
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 11:16 AM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

Are you talking about the plastic cover?

If so, it pops right out, and snaps back into place. Just pry it up.
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 11:23 AM
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 11:31 AM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

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Thanks, im posting from my phone and things are acting a lil weird with the images
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 12:50 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

Ive tried everything to get that metal piece off, but it wont budge.. im stuck here guys, any help would be greatly appreciated...
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 01:21 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

Are you talking about the C-clip? You need to get a small pair of needle nose pliers or something similar and pop it out. You have to slowly move it up the shaft
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 01:23 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

Do i have to pull the c clip before that piece of metal will come out? That metal plate above the dust cover is whats giving me issues
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 01:25 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

It's possible that is a steering wheel adapter...it appears to have holes to use a steering wheel puller on...are those holes threaded on the inner round piece?
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 01:26 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

Yea, its definitely the steering wheel adapter. It looks like it just pushes on like the steering wheel..
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 01:28 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

They were threaded but the last person to have to car broke when they started to take off the wheel, so there are part of a bolt in the adapter
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 01:31 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

Thats a tapered fit over the splines...you'll need a wheel puller...if the threads are messed up, you may have to drill over size and re tap them.
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 02:07 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

Yea, i thought about about drilling them out im taking to my friends shop and try a bearing puller, one of my tiw truck drivers ran off with mine. If that doesn't work im gonna drill out thos bolts. Thank you very much guys. Ill keep up updating the thread if it works.
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 06:32 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

THAT IS AN AIRBAG SIR COIL
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 06:52 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

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THAT IS AN AIRBAG SIR COIL
WERD, THANK YOU. Is it safe to take off?
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 07:03 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

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WERD, THANK YOU. Is it safe to take off?
Pretty sure 89's did not have airbags....even if they did, the bag has been removed...the 91 RS I had, the bag was on the wheel...wouldn't do much good under the wheel now would it
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 08:51 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

Should be able to take off but unsure if you will be missing anything .
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 04:00 PM
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after i replaced the lock cylinder i noticed this was broken and the cylinder wasn't doing anything

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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 04:02 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

If i could use that to start the car and the key to dissable the VATS i would be ok with that.. /: i just really can't afford a new column right now.

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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 06:23 PM
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Re: ignition cylinder removal issues

are you talking about the start rod?

New parts are available, but I for get where (just changed the column in my '89...while looking for info on it, I came across parts)...you could use the piece from your other column...some time involved, but if money is tight...

PS...assume going into your '88?...nothing to disable, as you don't have the VAT's module in the car.
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