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MSD6a vs. Crane vs. Jacobs

Old Dec 24, 2001 | 03:17 AM
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MSD6a vs. Crane vs. Jacobs

My MSD6A has failed for the second time in 6 mths. (1st time intermittent cut out, and now it just dies at 3k like when it supposed to swtich from duration to single spark). Any ideas here MSDTech???????? I am serioulsy looking into the acquisition of another type of ignition setup for my vehicle....So please post all probs and experiences with any systems that may have.
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Old Dec 24, 2001 | 03:24 AM
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Hate to say it, but I installed an MSD 6a. I found it completely useless. It did absoluetly nothing for power or MPG.
I fell for it.
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Old Dec 24, 2001 | 07:23 AM
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I have been running a Jacobs Ultra Team system on my Jeep for ten years. Not one problem. Ever.
I got tired of the Jeep and transplanted it to my Camaro this year and it still works great!
Forget MSD, get Jacobs.
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Old Dec 24, 2001 | 09:36 AM
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Jacob's system is entirely different from the other's from what I understand.

It's comparing apples and oranges.

Jacob's has patents on their products, and nobody else even comes close. Jacob's ignition alters the voltage depending on engine load. They also are more powerful unit than the other brands.

However, you get what you pay for. The jacob's pro/street system is over $400.00!
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Old Dec 25, 2001 | 02:45 PM
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i have a full msd set up on my car and works great...msd6al/blaster2 coil/dustcap


you can't expect to feel seat of your pants perfromance on mostly stock motors
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Old Dec 25, 2001 | 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by gruveb
Jacob's system is entirely different from the other's from what I understand.

It's comparing apples and oranges.

Jacob's has patents on their products, and nobody else even comes close. Jacob's ignition alters the voltage depending on engine load. They also are more powerful unit than the other brands.

However, you get what you pay for. The jacob's pro/street system is over $400.00!
this sounds like you fell for their advertisements hook line and sinker. I dont run any sort of aftermarket ignition system short of soem pos aftermarket coil so right now I have no biases except for the fact that I hear about MSDs crapping out quite often and the fact that Jacobs advertisements sound very fishy to me

Why would you want to vary the voltage depending on engine load? that makes no sense to me. Why not have the most voltage possible ALL the time? Their ads are doubly retarded, they mention something about having more voltage at wot for more power and less when you are just cruising for fuel mileage
thats about the dumbest thing ive ever heard. Greater spark intensity equals greater fuel mileage, not less.. and lowering will just lower your engines efficiency.

Someone explain this to me because I dont get it
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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 11:20 AM
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3.8TransAM,

I really do not know what has happened with your box. Is this the second unit or the same one that was repaired? We have a less then one percent failure rate on all of our product which is very good for electronics. It would be nice to tell you that we never have failures but this is unrealistic. Send the unit to my attention and I will see what is going on with the unit. By seeing what has failed in the unit we can get a good idea on what has created the failure. The address is:
MSD Ignition
12120 Ester Lama Dr Dock 5
El Paso, TX 79936

As for Jacobs, all I really want to say is take their ads with a large grain of salt. Any company that claims exact numbers is doing nothing more then trying to sale product. There is entirely to many variables to make a claim as far as an exact number with ignitions is impossible to do. As for their description of how their ignition varies output with load, completely true. Then again every ignition out there does the same thing down to old style stock points. You guys use what ever you want to use and I hope you have nothing but great success with it.

3.8TransAM,
Let me know what you decide to do. I hate to have you buy another system when it is really not necessary. I will be happy help you out. If you want to e-mail me with a phone number I will call you and see if it is something we can trouble shoot or if it is in the unit and it needs to be repaired. Again let me know.

Thanks,

Joe
MSD tech
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