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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 01:18 PM
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No oil on pass side lifters

Running the drill with engine on the stand trying to pump up oil pressure and Pass side is dry. Just wanting to get a preset on the rockers before dropping in the car. The Drivers side has tons of oil coming up through the push rods and lifters. Pass side is dry as can be this was supposed to be a simple head swap to Vortecs. Need HELP ASAP!

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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 01:25 PM
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Re: No oil on pass side lifters

Sounds like besides just merely wasting your time shamelessly with all that, you don't have a distributor in it.
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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 01:30 PM
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Re: No oil on pass side lifters

Trying to PRIME the engine as well since it is out of the car on the stand. So if I put it in the car and try to start with no oil coming through that is the best option?
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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 01:34 PM
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Re: No oil on pass side lifters

Yes.

The front-rear oil passage that goes through all the right bank lifters, also goes through the distributor body. The 2 raised "bosses" on the outside of the dist plug the hole in the block and complete the passage around the dist.

Without a dist, you have a MASSIVE internal oil leak. All the oil you can possibly pump, just spills out the end of the passage.

You'll have oil reaching the pass side lifters once you put the dist in.
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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Davejs
Trying to PRIME the engine as well since it is out of the car on the stand. So if I put it in the car and try to start with no oil coming through that is the best option?
If you want to prime it and don't have an old dist to mock up a tool then you'll want a prime tool with the collar type thing on it
://m.summitracing.com/parts/sum-901010?seid=srese1&cm_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-summit-racing&gclid=CJqBzom39s4CFQoxaQod94UOKA
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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 02:22 PM
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Re: No oil on pass side lifters

Have a nice little unit made from a dist for just this job. Was told I need to turn crank 180 for other side oiling.
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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 02:25 PM
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Have a nice little unit made from a dist for just this job. Was told I need to turn crank 180 for other side oiling.
I've primed more than a few times that way and never needed to turn the crank. Just the right tools and some patience. It takes some time for the oil to make it over there.
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Re: No oil on pass side lifters

I quit with that futility after the first couple dozen motors I built... after that I realized that the oil would reach that passage within a couple of seconds of the engine running anyway, and just because I happened to have access to the pump drive rod at the moment, didn't make that moment any different from any other time I'd start it up at any point in the rest of its life. Just a total waste of time.
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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 05:21 PM
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I quit with that futility after the first couple dozen motors I built... after that I realized that the oil would reach that passage within a couple of seconds of the engine running anyway, and just because I happened to have access to the pump drive rod at the moment, didn't make that moment any different from any other time I'd start it up at any point in the rest of its life. Just a total waste of time.
I'm inclined to agree. I've only bothered on fresh rebuilds and that was for my own piece of mind. If it was something at my job I just fired it up without concern. Especially when you can't prime an LSx without a special machine.
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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 10:55 PM
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Re: No oil on pass side lifters

a distributor and a cheap socket you can hammer on the top of the dist. is hard to beat for pre-lube duties.
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