Does this sound like a carb tune problem or a trans problem?
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Car: 1986 Iroc Z28
Engine: 305 TPI
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Does this sound like a carb tune problem or a trans problem?
So, been driving my 86 Iroc after finishing up my Carb swap and I am having the following issue and need some thoughts on where to start digging. Car is a 305, originally TPI swapped to carb and has edel performer manifold and holley street avenger 570cfm, Comp Cam 260h cam, 700R4 trans.
I am having a pretty decent stumble / miss fire just off idle during acceleration. Ive noticed it gets worse the longer I sit, a simple stop sign is less of an issue, a longer stop light creates more of a stumble. It appears that if I give it more gas it corrects the stumble and while cruising there is not a miss/stumble. Ive also noticed that at longer lights while idling Ill start to get a miss fire in the exhaust at idle. Car never dies and no stumble when rev'd in park/nuetral.
Im leaning towards carb tune issue because I never tuned the carb during the swap bc it ran, but, Ive been reading up on Torque converter issues causing spark knock, and I am leaking some trans fluid when the car sits for longer than overnight which went on long before I carb swapped.
I am having a pretty decent stumble / miss fire just off idle during acceleration. Ive noticed it gets worse the longer I sit, a simple stop sign is less of an issue, a longer stop light creates more of a stumble. It appears that if I give it more gas it corrects the stumble and while cruising there is not a miss/stumble. Ive also noticed that at longer lights while idling Ill start to get a miss fire in the exhaust at idle. Car never dies and no stumble when rev'd in park/nuetral.
Im leaning towards carb tune issue because I never tuned the carb during the swap bc it ran, but, Ive been reading up on Torque converter issues causing spark knock, and I am leaking some trans fluid when the car sits for longer than overnight which went on long before I carb swapped.
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Re: Does this sound like a carb tune problem or a trans problem?
It sounds like the carb is loading up at idle, in gear. Try doing an idle drop adjustment with a vacuum gauge and double checking the initial timing to make sure it's not too far retarded.
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Re: Does this sound like a carb tune problem or a trans problem?
It sounds like the carb is loading up at idle, in gear. Try doing an idle drop adjustment with a vacuum gauge and double checking the initial timing to make sure it's not too far retarded.
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Car: 1987 Z28 Camaro
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Re: Does this sound like a carb tune problem or a trans problem?
i had a vacuum leak that pulled this crap on me a year or so ago.
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Re: Does this sound like a carb tune problem or a trans problem?
did you switch your distributor with a non computer controlled one? if not that could be your issue
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Re: Does this sound like a carb tune problem or a trans problem?
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Re: Does this sound like a carb tune problem or a trans problem?
no, that sounds perfect for carbs, is that at idle or WOT?
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Re: Does this sound like a carb tune problem or a trans problem?
checked the pcv valve lately?
recently had the stumble scenario at the lights, ordered a new one and pulled the old one to compare, completely screwed. might not be a bad test for $5
recently had the stumble scenario at the lights, ordered a new one and pulled the old one to compare, completely screwed. might not be a bad test for $5
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Re: Does this sound like a carb tune problem or a trans problem?
Im not currently running PCV, just running 2 breathers instead. Any chance a PCV set up would fix this? I was under the impression either set up would work, but the PCV was just "cleaner"
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Re: Does this sound like a carb tune problem or a trans problem?
nah probably not, the valves going out do all sorts of wierd stuff.
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Re: Does this sound like a carb tune problem or a trans problem?
Check your ignition control module (ICM) inside the distributor cap. Whenever mine is going out (these cars eat them like candy) I get the symptoms you describe.






