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350 tpi timing problem with EST wire Disconnects

Old Sep 2, 2018 | 08:41 PM
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350 tpi timing problem with EST wire Disconnects

I can't set my base timing because car won't stay running with the EST unplugged? When it's plugged in it runs good but rich..I've hooked up the timing light to it when running and I'm confused if I set it it 20 to 24 btdc or do I set it at 6 btdc?
I don't think something is right if it's not starting when EST is unplugged?Help?Help?
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Old Sep 2, 2018 | 09:36 PM
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Re: 350 tpi timing problem with EST wire Disconnects

You set it to 6 degrees when wire disconnected. But it could be so retarded that it cant stay running when unplugged.
I think on my car/truck at idle, when warm, the computer advances about 20 degrees, jumping up and down a degree or so. So if you have an adjustable timing light, you could leave the EST hooked up, run the car and then adjust the compensation on the gun until youre on the 6 degrees mark. Then look at the gun and see how much you had to compensate. Normal would probably be around 20 degrees (if I remember). But if youre less than that it's probably running retarded and need to turn that distributor housing some (counterclock wise i believe).
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Old Sep 2, 2018 | 10:25 PM
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Re: 350 tpi timing problem with EST wire Disconnects

So r u saying to have it at advance it at 20 with EST hooked up and than what? What about when I unplugg it again and it don't start then wht?
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Old Sep 2, 2018 | 11:30 PM
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Re: 350 tpi timing problem with EST wire Disconnects

I'm saying don't advance or retard at all yet.
If you have something like this -
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The type of light that lets you compensate - or + degrees on the light. Start car, aim timing light. You probably wont even see the timing mark when EST is connected. Then adjust the light to subtract degrees. Eventually you will begin to see the mark. Keep adjusting the light until you get to 6btdc. Look at how much you had to adjust the light. If its around 20 degrees (someone can correct me the amount the computer should advance at idle) then youre timing is just about right.
Kind of like what this guy is doing

So think of the math. EST unplugged is +6. EST plugged in, computer adjusts another +20 (thereabouts if I recall). So timing at idle warmed up would be +26. So take the timing light, and adjust it back 20 degrees (removing the advance). You should see the mark at +6. Or, take it back 26 degrees and you would be at TDC.
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Old Sep 3, 2018 | 12:03 AM
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Re: 350 tpi timing problem with EST wire Disconnects

Okay thanks. Yeah I have just a Bosch timing light no dial on it or anything to adjust it.. I just been turning the distributor...but it feels like I got a misfire or something in that nature ..I can feel it when I step on the gas
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Old Sep 3, 2018 | 12:07 AM
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Re: 350 tpi timing problem with EST wire Disconnects

Also so if I get that style type timing light after I do that procedure..engine should be able to stay running with EST disconnected?
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Old Sep 3, 2018 | 09:16 AM
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Re: 350 tpi timing problem with EST wire Disconnects

No that timing light aids in diagnosing so that you don't have to make any adjustments via the distributor to find out how far off you are. But thats only assuming how much you know for sure the computer is advancing the timing (which i thought is 20 at idle, but someone here might have logs and know best).
Post a video of the issue you are having. IE how it runs with it plugged in and how without.
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Old Sep 3, 2018 | 02:48 PM
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Re: 350 tpi timing problem with EST wire Disconnects

I made a video how do I post it I got the car running without the EST connected? But it shuts off after I get off the gas?
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Old Sep 3, 2018 | 03:11 PM
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Re: 350 tpi timing problem with EST wire Disconnects

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Old Sep 4, 2018 | 07:40 AM
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Re: 350 tpi timing problem with EST wire Disconnects

Make a ark on the distributor base to intake so you know where your at now then just advance it about an 1/8 inch without it running by twisting the distributor counter clockwise then see if it runs with EST disconnected. If better but still not running keep advancing and it if nothing else is wrong it will run with EST disconnected.
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Old Sep 4, 2018 | 02:27 PM
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Re: 350 tpi timing problem with EST wire Disconnects

I have two bad injectors..that's most like why it not staying running
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Old Sep 5, 2018 | 09:13 PM
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Access denied on google drive. Just create a youtube account and upload them there.
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