I need my brakes to FAIL.
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I need my brakes to FAIL.
This may sound really weird and i feel really stupid about the whole thing but i cant explain the story. I need to make it so that my dad thinks my brakes went out in my car. it was wrecked and i had to say my brakes went out and i told them that when i pushed them there was no pressure and it just didnt do anything. what should i do.
Chris
Why don't you try telling the damn truth, especially to your parents. They fed you, bathed you, listened to you whine when you were sick, and changed your **** filled diapers.
Grow up and take responsibility for the fact that you wrecked the car.
That is what you should do.
Why don't you try telling the damn truth, especially to your parents. They fed you, bathed you, listened to you whine when you were sick, and changed your **** filled diapers.
Grow up and take responsibility for the fact that you wrecked the car.
That is what you should do.
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No see i wasnt driving and my friend made me promise that i wouldnt say anything about it and that he would pay for everything he has already bought me most the parts. I just cant let my parents find out because if his mom finds out she will take away his Javelin and without that hed have no life. And like my parents really think hes responsible and they have a good relationship with him and thats why he doesnt want them to find out
Wow Chris, I see your predicament. But the thing is this... Lets see, your parents have a great relationship with him and feel he is really a decent guy. OK so you don't want to mess that up,
OK, but if they find out you two conspired to hide something they will begin to wonder what else you two cooked up in the past and trust will begin to erode.
Now, if his mom finds out, she will take away his Javelin. Thats a real problem and I know because my first car was a 1970 Javelin SST 304. I doubt she will take his car away or she will have to start hauling him around again... that will be bad for her. Would she make him sell it ... maybe but I doubt it because a replacement cavalier would cost too much.
The central point of the issue is your parents and his parents will see the fact that you two fess up to what happened as a sign that you are growing up and accepting responsibility for what you do. Trust is very important.
Now I am not saying they mght not have a jerk kneed reaction and maybe ground you or take away your gas card for a while, but it in my book that is OK and part of life.
See to me on stuff like this you need to be able to walk forward knowing you were honest, accept your consequences, suck it up, and move forward from there.
If you knew the stupid, dangerous, dumb, and not always perfectly legal things I did before I came to this conclusion it would make perfectly clear sense to you.
I can say for sure it is far better to accept the small pain that telling the truth may bring today instead of finding out the big pain that comes from hurting yourself and others with lies.
Trying to help even though it is not what you want to hear.
Mike
OK, but if they find out you two conspired to hide something they will begin to wonder what else you two cooked up in the past and trust will begin to erode.
Now, if his mom finds out, she will take away his Javelin. Thats a real problem and I know because my first car was a 1970 Javelin SST 304. I doubt she will take his car away or she will have to start hauling him around again... that will be bad for her. Would she make him sell it ... maybe but I doubt it because a replacement cavalier would cost too much.
The central point of the issue is your parents and his parents will see the fact that you two fess up to what happened as a sign that you are growing up and accepting responsibility for what you do. Trust is very important.
Now I am not saying they mght not have a jerk kneed reaction and maybe ground you or take away your gas card for a while, but it in my book that is OK and part of life.
See to me on stuff like this you need to be able to walk forward knowing you were honest, accept your consequences, suck it up, and move forward from there.
If you knew the stupid, dangerous, dumb, and not always perfectly legal things I did before I came to this conclusion it would make perfectly clear sense to you.
I can say for sure it is far better to accept the small pain that telling the truth may bring today instead of finding out the big pain that comes from hurting yourself and others with lies.
Trying to help even though it is not what you want to hear.
Mike
XChris,
Sorry if this is going to sound like a lecture, but let's see...
Your car is wrecked. Those responsible are willing to pay for the repairs. That alone shows some measure of responsible, adult behavior, even if the reason for the accident wasn't completely "mature". Things like that happen, and that's why they're called "accidents". Don't make it any worse than it already is by lying about it.
Keep analyzing the situation. Your friend is trying to be responsible. His parents are going to be upset, of course. His car may be taken away (for a while). I understand that that can be a crushing blow to a person who relies on a vehicle for any chance to have "a life". He'll live. His parents will likely eventually appreciate the fact that he is trying to do the responsible, mature thing in paying for the damages, as well as being honest with them. You should probably make sure everyone understands that fact, too.
You only have a few real friends in a lifetime. You only have one set of parents. You'll probably have countless cars in your lifetime. You can buy a newer, better car any day. You can repair your car if it's damaged. You might even be able to pick new friends, but you'll never be able to replace your parents. If you erode the relationship you have with them, you may never be able to regain it. There is a lot of value in being able to trust someone. Even if you think you are getting away with something, you probably aren't anyway. I've been there. Somehow, they usually find out. Hiding it from anyone won't change the facts, and may cause damage to the relationship you have with your parents and friends that you won't be able to repair as easily as your car, if at all.
If your parents have a good relationship with him, use that to your advantage, too. Maybe your parents could talk to his parents about the situation, explaing that he is being very mature and forthright in taking responsibility. I'd hope that they'll listen to reason.
Just remember that a car that has bad brakes is one that your parents may urge you to get rid of. Certainly, if they failed once, what would prevent it from happening again? And being good parents, they'll want to protect you and keep you safe. If that means selling your car, they may do that as well.
Tampering with the brakes isn't a great idea, but that's just my opinion. You need to do what is right for you. Just make sure you can live with it for more than just a day.
Then again, if you're really set on doing this, good luck. I hope you find help somewhere.
Sorry if this is going to sound like a lecture, but let's see...
Your car is wrecked. Those responsible are willing to pay for the repairs. That alone shows some measure of responsible, adult behavior, even if the reason for the accident wasn't completely "mature". Things like that happen, and that's why they're called "accidents". Don't make it any worse than it already is by lying about it.
Keep analyzing the situation. Your friend is trying to be responsible. His parents are going to be upset, of course. His car may be taken away (for a while). I understand that that can be a crushing blow to a person who relies on a vehicle for any chance to have "a life". He'll live. His parents will likely eventually appreciate the fact that he is trying to do the responsible, mature thing in paying for the damages, as well as being honest with them. You should probably make sure everyone understands that fact, too.
You only have a few real friends in a lifetime. You only have one set of parents. You'll probably have countless cars in your lifetime. You can buy a newer, better car any day. You can repair your car if it's damaged. You might even be able to pick new friends, but you'll never be able to replace your parents. If you erode the relationship you have with them, you may never be able to regain it. There is a lot of value in being able to trust someone. Even if you think you are getting away with something, you probably aren't anyway. I've been there. Somehow, they usually find out. Hiding it from anyone won't change the facts, and may cause damage to the relationship you have with your parents and friends that you won't be able to repair as easily as your car, if at all.
If your parents have a good relationship with him, use that to your advantage, too. Maybe your parents could talk to his parents about the situation, explaing that he is being very mature and forthright in taking responsibility. I'd hope that they'll listen to reason.
Just remember that a car that has bad brakes is one that your parents may urge you to get rid of. Certainly, if they failed once, what would prevent it from happening again? And being good parents, they'll want to protect you and keep you safe. If that means selling your car, they may do that as well.
Tampering with the brakes isn't a great idea, but that's just my opinion. You need to do what is right for you. Just make sure you can live with it for more than just a day.
Then again, if you're really set on doing this, good luck. I hope you find help somewhere.
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Unfortunately I think you came to the wrong place to request instruction on how to break a car that we all love. I hope you find the answer to your needs somwhere else, but I also hope that answer doesnt include vandalizing your thirdgen.
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Being a parent myself (4 kids, one driver and one soon to be a driver) I totally agree with Mike and Vader. When my oldest daughter hurt my IROC (approx $1500) She was upfront telling me about it right away. She told me that she made a mistake and that she wouldn't do it again, I told her "thank you for being honest, I love you". Everything worked out great. The car got fixed with her help and we got to spend time together while fixing it. If she would have lied to me and I found out a different way I would have been very upset. Just sit your parents down and tell them how you messed up. Yes they may get upset (because the lie has already started), but they will probably come down less severely on you and your friend if the lie stops now and you make ammends for it. Just my 2 cents worth.
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I'm not advocating lying, but....
Unplug the vacuum connection at the brake booster, just let it dangle.
Hey, we were all young once and trying to get over on our parents and we all know our kids will be doing (or have done) the same thing. Best thing is (I hope) no ones hurt.
Hey, I'm 40 and I still haven't told my folks how those dents/broken rears and scars really came from..
Unplug the vacuum connection at the brake booster, just let it dangle.
Hey, we were all young once and trying to get over on our parents and we all know our kids will be doing (or have done) the same thing. Best thing is (I hope) no ones hurt.
Hey, I'm 40 and I still haven't told my folks how those dents/broken rears and scars really came from..
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Just to let you know. I have talked to my dad about the whole situation and before i could explain it he said he knows and he said that sometimes when you are driving and look away and then look back it feels like your brakes dont work. He says he understands and hes glad that nothing esle happened. although he still thinks i was driving. I just wanted to say thanks to everyone that gave their advise and their oppinions. I think this has kinda tought me a lesson.
We all have to learn lessons the hard way. Unfortiuneatly I don't learn verry quick. I am glad you are making out well in the situation. I would probably advise you that after all this blows over sit your parrents down and tell them the truth. Your parrents would be mad but would respect you more for telling you the truth. JMO
PS a buddy and I had a simular accident with a certin ford ranger and fliping the truck several times. I speak from experance. Mostly they were just happy we were both alive.
PS a buddy and I had a simular accident with a certin ford ranger and fliping the truck several times. I speak from experance. Mostly they were just happy we were both alive.
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How old are all of you? Would your parents tell his parents? I mean, c'mon; you weren't driving, and he'll pay for damages. What's the problem? Hell, bring him in when you tell them. He drives a 70's Javelin; he can always say he wasn't used to how your car handled, and that's why he wrecked it. Stupid points for him for driving a car that he didn't know how to operate, but it's better than "stupid points" for driving recklessly in your best friends car.
so your freind was driving the car and nailed a tree or something? if its trashed theres no way to tell if the brakes are working or not, also brakes just dont all of a sudden out of nowhere stop working, unless he's really gulible your old man will smell the BS a mile away. even tho it will suck i also agree you need to bite to bullet and tell him, im also sure he bought you the car in the first place so im sure if you bought someting for you dad for a few thousand $$$'s and he wrecked it im sure you would apprecate the truth also.
Listen to me. I'm 17(18 tomarrow Hella Yeah) , and I was 4wheeling with my fathers 91 nissan(now mine) when I didnt quite clear a tree that had fallen across the path When it set down on the frame, I decided that it would be best just to back out and go my marry way rather then drag the frame and risk getting both sets of wheels off the ground. When I backed up, the front tire caught the mud flaps between the log and ripped them off. In doing this, the fender was crumpled and a piece of sharp metal sliced the tir in about 4 different places. I was completely upfront with my father and told him that I realized that it was completely my fault and that I would get it fixed. He realized that I was being a man about and didnt so much as get mad over this.
You have even less to lose then me. This wont cost you a dime. I dont know your parents but if you just approach them with the idea that you were panicked when it happened and that you just got wrapped up in a lie.
You have even less to lose then me. This wont cost you a dime. I dont know your parents but if you just approach them with the idea that you were panicked when it happened and that you just got wrapped up in a lie.
Lottaballs you just reminded me about another insedent that I had. I was doing the same as you off roading in my dads 84 blazer k5 and went over a hill and there was a small clif like 18" tall. I couldnt' get up the flat part of the hill so my friend and I decided to just approach it at full throttle from about 16 foot away (they had cut down trees to cut off the trail) when we did this the front came up the back went down untill I hit the hitch and jumped the hill. when comming down I just about high centered the truck and crushed the exhaust , bent 2 of the driveshafts, crushed the running boards. and bent a fender. Needless to say he was pissed off when I had to wake him up to tell him he had to take my car to work ( this happened at 5:00pm and I got home at 8 to wake him up and tell him about it he works nights) Now every time he thinks about it he gives me this evil eye but you can tell he is just about to burst from laughing on the inside. My grandfather just laughs at all of this becuz my dad did all the same stuff when he was young.
My dad wrecked a 56 chevy racing and totaled it the third night he had it "after my grandfather told him not to be racing"
My grandfather told him not to speed shift the 57 and needless to say a couple of months after getting it he riped the tranny out. The tranny guy told my grandfather that was what caused the tranny to go out. He was my grandfathers best friend and saw my dad driving one day.
My dad wrecked a 56 chevy racing and totaled it the third night he had it "after my grandfather told him not to be racing"
My grandfather told him not to speed shift the 57 and needless to say a couple of months after getting it he riped the tranny out. The tranny guy told my grandfather that was what caused the tranny to go out. He was my grandfathers best friend and saw my dad driving one day.
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I would just like to know where you guys came up with the idea i was off roading. My friend was on a very busy street in columbus and went underneath a truck. i may take my escort or my s10 off road but never my camaro, give me more credit than that.
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I took my Firebird offroading twice... after my first accident. I had taken the front urethane bumper off, and decided one day to follow my buddy's Jeep into some woods. (He wanted me to go in the Jeep with him, I refused!) That was a damn blast... wow. All I did was air the tires down, and I was climbing hills right behind him (just not as fast). The second time we went, I managed to get the car on three wheels! I almost got stuck getting out of the claypit, but I worked it out (and scraped the whole underside of the car).
A few weeks later, I shelled out $400 to fix the front alignment- oops. It was definately fun tho!
I think the guys were just telling you of the offroad stories because they're similar stories.. nobody said you went off road!
A few weeks later, I shelled out $400 to fix the front alignment- oops. It was definately fun tho!
I think the guys were just telling you of the offroad stories because they're similar stories.. nobody said you went off road!
Originally posted by XChris1632X
I would just like to know where you guys came up with the idea i was off roading. My friend was on a very busy street in columbus and went underneath a truck. i may take my escort or my s10 off road but never my camaro, give me more credit than that.
I would just like to know where you guys came up with the idea i was off roading. My friend was on a very busy street in columbus and went underneath a truck. i may take my escort or my s10 off road but never my camaro, give me more credit than that.
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