Completed: Power Steering Pump Replacement
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Completed: Power Steering Pump Replacement
Up next on the list of things that will make a person swear... the power steering pump pulley. I have the pulley removal tool, but it isn't coming off. Is this a pressed fit like the balancer, Any tips?
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Re: Power Steering Pump Pulley Removal
Yes it is a press fit.
Yes it will come off. Always does. I've never even had to swear in more than 3 or 4 languages before I found the one it responds to. (yes I can swear in LOTS...)
Yes it will come off. Always does. I've never even had to swear in more than 3 or 4 languages before I found the one it responds to. (yes I can swear in LOTS...)
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I've only located 2 bolts on the face of the PS Pump, removed them but the PS Pump isn't budging. Isn't it supposed to slide right out?
EDIT: Found a 3rd bolt thanks to a ThirdGen YouTube vid. Found it hidden behind some dirt and cobwebs. Once removed it did slide right out.
EDIT: Found a 3rd bolt thanks to a ThirdGen YouTube vid. Found it hidden behind some dirt and cobwebs. Once removed it did slide right out.
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Re: Power Steering Pump Replacement
Not sure about torching that.
Can you get the other end of the line off? Might be easier to break that end loose since it's on the steering box and attached to the car.
You should seriously consider replacing that line (power steering pressure line) anyways with how old and crusty it looks. It should be readily available at a local parts store. Would be wise to replace the rubber return line as well. I think I see a power steering pressure switch/sensor on the pressure line, so make sure the new hose has a fitting for it. I think AC equipped TBI cars got that setup.
Can you get the other end of the line off? Might be easier to break that end loose since it's on the steering box and attached to the car.
You should seriously consider replacing that line (power steering pressure line) anyways with how old and crusty it looks. It should be readily available at a local parts store. Would be wise to replace the rubber return line as well. I think I see a power steering pressure switch/sensor on the pressure line, so make sure the new hose has a fitting for it. I think AC equipped TBI cars got that setup.
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Not sure about torching that.
Can you get the other end of the line off? Might be easier to break that end loose since it's on the steering box and attached to the car.
You should seriously consider replacing that line (power steering pressure line) anyways with how old and crusty it looks. It should be readily available at a local parts store. Would be wise to replace the rubber return line as well. I think I see a power steering pressure switch/sensor on the pressure line, so make sure the new hose has a fitting for it. I think AC equipped TBI cars got that setup.
Can you get the other end of the line off? Might be easier to break that end loose since it's on the steering box and attached to the car.
You should seriously consider replacing that line (power steering pressure line) anyways with how old and crusty it looks. It should be readily available at a local parts store. Would be wise to replace the rubber return line as well. I think I see a power steering pressure switch/sensor on the pressure line, so make sure the new hose has a fitting for it. I think AC equipped TBI cars got that setup.
Update: The bolt broke loose on the rear of the PS Pump however it's not spinning around the line as it's sludged up. Made a attempt at the other end and no-go.
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Re: Power Steering Pump Replacement
I don't believe I'd torch that.
Looking at the condition of that line, if you're replacing the pump, just replace the lines too. It's right about $20 IIRC. The return line is just a piece of hose, special hose, but still just a piece of hose. Not worth trying to preserve old wore out stuff that the VERY FIRST THING it's gonna do after you put on a new pump, is to start leaking and need replacement ANYWAY. (Murphy's Law and all that... which the REAL Murphy's Law is, if it can go wrong, it already has, and you just haven't found out about it yet and won't until it's too late to do anything about it)
I wouldn't worry too much about the pressure switch. All it does is break the AC compressor coil circuit when the wheels go to full lock. Trivial at best.
Looking at the condition of that line, if you're replacing the pump, just replace the lines too. It's right about $20 IIRC. The return line is just a piece of hose, special hose, but still just a piece of hose. Not worth trying to preserve old wore out stuff that the VERY FIRST THING it's gonna do after you put on a new pump, is to start leaking and need replacement ANYWAY. (Murphy's Law and all that... which the REAL Murphy's Law is, if it can go wrong, it already has, and you just haven't found out about it yet and won't until it's too late to do anything about it)
I wouldn't worry too much about the pressure switch. All it does is break the AC compressor coil circuit when the wheels go to full lock. Trivial at best.
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Yeah if you just want to get the car back together, I don't see any harm in leaving that switch out for now and using the standard line.
And I agree, it's probably best that you do what you need to do to replace the soft lines. They're clearly old or original with how much they're fighting, and they'll probably blow out now that they've been disturbed this much.
What kind of wrenches are you using? For the power steering gear side, you could try some crowfoot flare nut wrenches which would let you get some torque on them with a 3/8 ratchet. Harbor Freight sells some, not sure if they typically stock them though. Normally you don't want to skimp on flare nut wrenches, but they're only $12 for a set.
And I agree, it's probably best that you do what you need to do to replace the soft lines. They're clearly old or original with how much they're fighting, and they'll probably blow out now that they've been disturbed this much.
What kind of wrenches are you using? For the power steering gear side, you could try some crowfoot flare nut wrenches which would let you get some torque on them with a 3/8 ratchet. Harbor Freight sells some, not sure if they typically stock them though. Normally you don't want to skimp on flare nut wrenches, but they're only $12 for a set.
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I don't believe I'd torch that.
Looking at the condition of that line, if you're replacing the pump, just replace the lines too. It's right about $20 IIRC. The return line is just a piece of hose, special hose, but still just a piece of hose. Not worth trying to preserve old wore out stuff that the VERY FIRST THING it's gonna do after you put on a new pump, is to start leaking and need replacement ANYWAY. (Murphy's Law and all that... which the REAL Murphy's Law is, if it can go wrong, it already has, and you just haven't found out about it yet and won't until it's too late to do anything about it)
I wouldn't worry too much about the pressure switch. All it does is break the AC compressor coil circuit when the wheels go to full lock. Trivial at best.
Looking at the condition of that line, if you're replacing the pump, just replace the lines too. It's right about $20 IIRC. The return line is just a piece of hose, special hose, but still just a piece of hose. Not worth trying to preserve old wore out stuff that the VERY FIRST THING it's gonna do after you put on a new pump, is to start leaking and need replacement ANYWAY. (Murphy's Law and all that... which the REAL Murphy's Law is, if it can go wrong, it already has, and you just haven't found out about it yet and won't until it's too late to do anything about it)
I wouldn't worry too much about the pressure switch. All it does is break the AC compressor coil circuit when the wheels go to full lock. Trivial at best.
Yeah if you just want to get the car back together, I don't see any harm in leaving that switch out for now and using the standard line.
And I agree, it's probably best that you do what you need to do to replace the soft lines. They're clearly old or original with how much they're fighting, and they'll probably blow out now that they've been disturbed this much.
What kind of wrenches are you using? For the power steering gear side, you could try some crowfoot flare nut wrenches which would let you get some torque on them with a 3/8 ratchet. Harbor Freight sells some, not sure if they typically stock them though. Normally you don't want to skimp on flare nut wrenches, but they're only $12 for a set.
And I agree, it's probably best that you do what you need to do to replace the soft lines. They're clearly old or original with how much they're fighting, and they'll probably blow out now that they've been disturbed this much.
What kind of wrenches are you using? For the power steering gear side, you could try some crowfoot flare nut wrenches which would let you get some torque on them with a 3/8 ratchet. Harbor Freight sells some, not sure if they typically stock them though. Normally you don't want to skimp on flare nut wrenches, but they're only $12 for a set.
Update: Found I wasn't using the correct size wrench. Had this "Power Steering Line Flare Wrench" delivered and it still wouldn't budge.
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Re: Power Steering Pump Replacement
Got the the line free w/out damage! Maybe I was expecting PB Blaster to undo 30 years of crud in 2 or 3 minutes which wasn't realistic lol
Also found that parts store may have the replacement I need, I think if it's specified "With A/C" then it'll have the port for the pressure switch.
Also found that parts store may have the replacement I need, I think if it's specified "With A/C" then it'll have the port for the pressure switch.
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Re: Power Steering Pump Replacement
With all forward progress comes some kind of minor setback... My HF Pulley Puller / Installer pulled the pulley per the instructions but the set screw now doesn't screw into the installer bolt like the threads were smashed while removing the pulley so i'm stuck.
But at lease I'm almost done....
But at lease I'm almost done....
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Re: Power Steering Pump Replacement
If your pulley puller/install kit broke, just borrow one from Autozone or whatever local parts store you have. In the end, it doesn't cost you anything but the gas going to/from the store.
In the future, I recommend popping the pressure line off the pump before removing the pump from the bracket. If you go at it from under the car, the nut is pretty accessible and the bracket keeps the pump from moving around.
Oh, and ALWAYS replace that pressure line if you are removing the pump or gearbox. Easy insurance since you already are breaking the integrity of the system.
In the future, I recommend popping the pressure line off the pump before removing the pump from the bracket. If you go at it from under the car, the nut is pretty accessible and the bracket keeps the pump from moving around.
Oh, and ALWAYS replace that pressure line if you are removing the pump or gearbox. Easy insurance since you already are breaking the integrity of the system.
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Re: Power Steering Pump Replacement
I'm fairly sure the threads in the pump are a commonly available 3/8-16. You could get a long bolt, bottom it out in the pump, and use a nut and some washers to push it on. I've had new pumps that included those for installing the pulley.
I've rented the AutoZone one a few times and it works great. I ended up just keeping it the last time I did.
I've rented the AutoZone one a few times and it works great. I ended up just keeping it the last time I did.
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Re: Completed: Power Steering Pump Replacement
For any future issues with your pump or gearbox, I've had great experiences with Marty at Powersteering.com when he rebuilt my box and pump.
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Re: Completed: Power Steering Pump Replacement
Very interesting... I installed a new / reman Cardone pump last year and have the exact same problem. It is also stuck and breaks free and it moans. Found a nice used original pump from a 91 donor but interesting you are having the same issue. Do you also have a new pump?
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Very interesting... I installed a new / reman Cardone pump last year and have the exact same problem. It is also stuck and breaks free and it moans. Found a nice used original pump from a 91 donor but interesting you are having the same issue. Do you also have a new pump?
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