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In your experience, what is the battery of choice and what is the largest battery that can be comfortably put into a 3 rd gen?
Thanks,
Louis
This is not an advertisement, just experience as a customer. For those in the Southeast, Battery Source should be seriously considered. They sell a broad line of batteries including Optima. But here's the kicker -- their premium battery ($119) is $50-$60 less than the big box stores and has better specs, plus has a full 6 year warranty with first 2 years return at 100% (new battery at no cost). Next 4 years are prorated. Big box auto stores 2-3 years prorated warranty on inferior batteries.
My race car has a smaller battery. I use a CS style high amp alternator but don't have a huge electrical system to power. No stereo, power windows, door locks etc. No heated seats. No heater etc, etc.
Ignition system, water pump, fan, minimal lights.
It doesn't see cold weather so doesn't need a high CCA rating and the lower rating is still enough to crank over my BBC.
Again, like the above post, why do you think you need a larger battery?
Sounds kind of a no-brainer. Which I am UNIQUELY qualified to help you with, as, I have no brain.
If you want a 650 CCA battery, go buy a 650 CCA battery. Not hard. Plenty of em out there. Not particularly related to "size" (the car originally came with a 75 series). More closely related to PRICE.
That doesn't answer the question though. WHY do you want this? Do you want to run your stereo for more hours in the park without running it down? Does the car crank slow? Do you have a SOOOOOOOPER high compression motor in it and if it doesn't start in first couple of "ruhhht"s at the drag strip you're out of luck? Did you go parking with your significant other and have to get a tow with both your clothing in disarray? What is the UNDERLYING REASON for wanting this thing? Surely you're not just one of those gullible types that wants to maybe give it a little blue pill or something so that it achieves a bigger number?
Sounds kind of a no-brainer. Which I am UNIQUELY qualified to help you with, as, I have no brain.
If you want a 650 CCA battery, go buy a 650 CCA battery. Not hard. Plenty of em out there. Not particularly related to "size" (the car originally came with a 75 series). More closely related to PRICE.
That doesn't answer the question though. WHY do you want this? Do you want to run your stereo for more hours in the park without running it down? Does the car crank slow? Do you have a SOOOOOOOPER high compression motor in it and if it doesn't start in first couple of "ruhhht"s at the drag strip you're out of luck? Did you go parking with your significant other and have to get a tow with both your clothing in disarray? What is the UNDERLYING REASON for wanting this thing? Surely you're not just one of those gullible types that wants to maybe give it a little blue pill or something so that it achieves a bigger number?
You nailed it
Did you go parking with your significant other and have to get a tow with both your clothing in disarray?
Oh man, I HATE IT when that happens. Makes getting the next date date that much harder.
I think rather than worrying about the battery, concentrate on making your car easier to start. A reduction-gear "mini-starter" is more likely to avoid a repeat embarrassment than a … however many … CCA battery. That kind of starter AMPLIFIES the battery's capabilities, such that the batt matters just that much less.
Yes, BTDT. Back then there WERE NO reduction gear starters. I didn't have to call for a tow, I was pretty resourceful even after ... that … I even provided some degree of satisfaction to her while the time passed, without demanding my own, on the spot, … but the damage was done. She turfed me eventually. I'd hate for that to happen to you too.
Your opportunity for a solution (remember ALWAYS: we NEVER have "problems", we only always have opportunities for solutions) lies in upgrading your starter, not your battery. And of course, those "other" skillz, which you should always develop to their fullest, because independent of batteries and such, they can make up for ALOT of minor difficulties in other areas.
Odyssey. 120 minutes reserve capacity. I have had a couple occasions to try out the reserve capacity - I've had two Powermaster alternator failures - One of which I drove about 25 miles on a hot summer day on just my battery. Upon arriving home the engine still cranked like the battery didn't even care. Also once left a dome light (non-LED) on for 3 solid days - same result. The fully charged Odyssey cranked like it didn't care.
10-15 year design life. As a performance shop I have sold close to 100 of these batteries over the last 5 years and never had a failure. Even cars with the little baby Odyssey's (weight saving and front mount intercooler piping clearance, etc) that have ran them flat dozens of times haven't managed to kill one. I honestly don't know what it would take to kill one other than severe over-voltage.
Only batteries I trust in my personal vehicles. I have a couple vehicles that are lifted, off-road capable and the missus and I enjoy hiking in some pretty remote areas. I trust nothing less to get me back.
And for the starter - Mezier. Yeah they are $550. But again - you want it to start or you want to take your chances with something inferior? Starters, Alternators (DC Power Engineering), and Batteries..... I don't mess around. The frustration of cheap Chinese components isn't worth it to me.
GD
Last edited by GeneralDisorder; Sep 7, 2019 at 08:35 PM.
Got sick of failures with Delco optima etc
Got pissed off and bought a $49.00 Walmart battery....been in there a year...bought one for my DD that eats 1 a yr. Im sold..
Took the label off nobody knows any better. WIth a 1 yr warranty you cant go wrong really.
What I'd like is a hand or foot crank and some capacitors so you can charge the caps by hand/foot and use the stored power to help start the car
with the additional help of a battery
The less dis-charged the battery is each time the longer it will last according to the spec sheets of (sealed and otherwise) lead acid battery
Did you go parking with your significant other and have to get a tow with both your clothing in disarray?
Louis
For this issue, you need more reserve capacity or amp hours. Most type 75s wont' give more than 95 minutes, it's just a limit to what you can do with lead and acid in that volume. Some of the AGMs will get you above 110-120, but is that enough?
You might want to consider a jump pack as a back up. You can get either lead acid or lithium ion. Some of the lithium ion ones are quite small and powerful, you probably need one that will push 1000 amps for a start.
And don't forget, satisfy your significant other's innermost longings thoroughly in the meantime, so s/he is in a languorous state of ecstasy and won't think your car's minor temporary failure was a permanent deal-breaker.
If We Don’t Get Cawt We Ain’t Cheatin’
Makes getting the next date date that much harder.
