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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 04:30 AM
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Odd throttle problem.

Hoping I can get some suggestions on how to overcome this problem. My car has had a rhd conversion, due to the fact it was imported into Australia in 1990 and we have stupid laws regarding lhd cars (have to be 30 years old in my state to remain lhd) and as a result, my pedal doesn't allow me to achieve wot because it hits the floor before that point. I've added a pic of the floor pan, clearly different angles on the floor, which you can see would inhibit the pedals travel now that it's on the right side of the car.
Aside from turning it back to lhd, can anyone suggest something I can do to give me the accelerator pedals full travel to wot ?


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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 08:15 AM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

I wonder if the simplest solution would be to notch a section of the pan to create a recess for the petal to occupy.
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 09:33 AM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

Can you remove the pedal assembly and bend the arm up to give more travel?
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 12:54 PM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

Originally Posted by kestell123
I wonder if the simplest solution would be to notch a section of the pan to create a recess for the petal to occupy.
I have thought of that, if I went that route it would also be good to reduce or get rid of the catalytic converter hump too, it's a pain to have there, I've often thought of having that whole section of the pan cut out but at that point it would probably be just as easy to make it left hand drive again 😄

Originally Posted by Tuned Performance
Can you remove the pedal assembly and bend the arm up to give more travel?
I figured that might be the quickest and easiest solution, would there be anything to be weary of doing that, aside from snapping it lol, like what if I bent it too far ?
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 04:36 PM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

So you have a 1988 trans am? That would make it 33 years old, can't you keep it LHD?
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 05:01 PM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

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So you have a 1988 trans am? That would make it 33 years old, can't you keep it LHD?
I could convert it back but it's right drive cause it has been here since 1990.
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 05:03 PM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

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I could convert it back but it's right drive cause it has been here since 1990.
O i got ya. Convert it back, it would be cool to have a opposite drive car in your country!
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 05:47 PM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

It would seem that bending the arm would work, but would also raise the height of the pedal. Having the throttle even with or higher than the brake pedal would be a bad idea. When I did my Ls drive by wire swap I at first had the throttle pedal even with the brake pedal, as soon as I started to drive it I realized that was not good . If you are going to accidentally hit a pedal you want it to be the brake.
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 06:07 PM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

When I read the opening post the first thing that came to my mind was to relocate the attachment point of the throttle cable where it attaches to the bracket on the throttle shaft. Specifically, drill a hole on the bracket closer to the throttle shaft that would allow the reduced pedal movement, causing reduced throttle cable movement, to still be able to move the throttle shaft enough to allow WOT. A slight geometry tweak , as it were....
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 06:34 PM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

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When I read the opening post the first thing that came to my mind was to relocate the attachment point of the throttle cable where it attaches to the bracket on the throttle shaft. Specifically, drill a hole on the bracket closer to the throttle shaft that would allow the reduced pedal movement, causing reduced throttle cable movement, to still be able to move the throttle shaft enough to allow WOT. A slight geometry tweak , as it were....
That's not a bad idea, but I don't think I could make it given the location of where the cable attaches to the tb, not any room really to move its mounting location 😩


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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 06:40 PM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

Originally Posted by kestell123
It would seem that bending the arm would work, but would also raise the height of the pedal. Having the throttle even with or higher than the brake pedal would be a bad idea. When I did my Ls drive by wire swap I at first had the throttle pedal even with the brake pedal, as soon as I started to drive it I realized that was not good . If you are going to accidentally hit a pedal you want it to be the brake.
My pedal is actually quite a bit lower than the brake, tbh I think I could bend the arm to what I'd need and still have it lower than the brake, I'm just concerned whether it would put the pedal itself on a weird and uncomfortable angle and if I bend it too much it could snap the cable if the travel goes past wot lol
Originally Posted by 87iroz-c
O i got ya. Convert it back, it would be cool to have a opposite drive car in your country!
There's heaps of lhd around these days lol, much more variety now than 30 years ago so they're pretty common, but given that we drive on the left of the road, lots of lhd guys say it's sometimes dangerous cause it's harder to see other cars if you're pulling away from the curb for example and there's a large vehicle parked behind you blocking your vision.

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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 06:42 PM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

Originally Posted by KR81
My pedal is actually quite a bit lower than the brake, tbh I think I could bend the arm to what I'd need and still have it lower than the brake, I'm just concerned whether it would put the pedal itself on a weird and uncomfortable angle and if I bend it too much it could snap the cable if the travel goes past wot lol

There's heaps of lhd around these days lol, much more variety now than 30 years ago so they're pretty common, but given that we drive on the left of the road, lots of lhd guys say it's sometimes dangerous cause it's harder to see other cars if you're pulling away from the curb for example and there's a large vehicle parked behind you blocking your vision, for example.

Never thought of that! Good point 😳
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 06:45 PM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

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Never thought of that! Good point 😳
I'd imagine it to be pretty nerve racking with our tiny 3rd gen side mirrors too 😄
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 06:46 PM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

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I'd imagine it to be pretty nerve racking with our tiny 3rd gen side mirrors too 😄
100% lol
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 12:15 AM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

So after work today I manged to get stuck into this.
I removed the accelerator pedal, pulled back the carpet and cut out all the thick disgusting old underlay, seriously this stuff was rank, replaced that with two thinner layers of dyna mat like stuff, and was able to bend the pedal rod in small increments, (was actually quite easy to bend by hand, I put it in the handle of my 3ton floor jack then stood on the jack and pulled on the rod) then fully reassemble and test a few times until I got it where I think it is right. With all the carpet back in place it can now achieve wot. The throttle can still open just the absolute tiniest bit more but I kind of figured that won't make a hell of a lot of difference anyway and in my head kind of acts as a stopper so if I decide to mash the pedal to the floor from a standstill I'm not going to snap the cable. Thoughts on that, is that how it works lol ?

Unfortunately I can't road test it till next week cause I'm stuck in the garage while the driveway is relaid so until then I'm calling this one done!

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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 03:42 PM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

You could always do this 🤣🤣🤣

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJwy1MW6/

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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 08:21 PM
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Re: Odd throttle problem.

Originally Posted by 87iroz-c
You could ways do this 🤣🤣🤣

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJwy1MW6/
😄😄😄
You laugh bro but this is basically how they use to do lhd to rhd conversions except all that **** was hidden inside the dash. Fortunately mine is basically a mirror conversion, pedals, brake booster etc and steering column is all where it is in the us but on the right and all my ac stuff is on the left..

but for real back in the 70s and 80s they did that crap in the video, I actually bought an almost wrecked 84 a few years ago that had been converted like that, it was a goddamn wreck, I dont know how they passed engineering certifications.
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