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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 06:08 PM
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Hi guys, I'm a regular over at www.corvetteforum.com, new guy here. I'm restoring a '68 Corvette, and building a 454 for it. 10:1 with 2465 pistons, 781 heads, 2.19/1.88 valves, Isky 300/310 cam. It's a beast.

A buddy of mine has a 1983 Camaro, it's got the 305 with Cross(mis)fire. He wants to get some more power out of it, but isn't much of a car guy and doesn't know where to start. I have a lot more experience with big blocks, and standard small blocks (ie: carb'ed 350s)

I don't know much about the 305 and the Crossfire, other than it's known in the Corvette community as the Misfire.

Given, say, a budget of about $1000-1500, what would you guys reccommend doing for mods? He wants headers and dual exhaust, but I told him without other mods, that probably wouldn't gain him much. Unless the stock exhaust is very restrictive, is it?

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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 06:13 PM
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Yes, exhaust is a very good start with our cars, ours is very restrictive.
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 07:35 PM
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Full exhaust should be the first mod. The stock setup is a joke. The y-pipe is restrictive too. Without exhaust any other mods won't benefit as much. I'd recommend the Hooker cat-back highly. There's a sound clip in the signature. Also go with a cam, not expensive but will help out a lot. I'm not at all familiar with the Xfire so I'll leave that part to someone else. Also I would discourage true dual exhaust, it will get rather pricey for little gain.
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 07:37 PM
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Maybe he should toss the fuel injection and computer control and just put in a 4 bbl carb and vacuum controlled HEI distributor. He'll be able to make **** hp, have a simpler set up to work on and still have $1000 left over for headers, exhaust, etc.
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 11:06 PM
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Mark, Looking at the Hooker Cat-Back for him, that connects up to the stock cat, so aren't you still suffering from the 2-into-1-into-2 power loss? Besides the cat power loss?

This is Minnesota, we don't care about emissions.

How about the Dynomax Super Turbo, looks like a full system for $160. Actually, $160 for the system, $130 for the headers. I know Dynomax are popular with the SBC Corvette guys. Anyone experience that?

Thanks for the replies!

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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by ddn
Mark, Looking at the Hooker Cat-Back for him, that connects up to the stock cat, so aren't you still suffering from the 2-into-1-into-2 power loss? Besides the cat power loss?

This is Minnesota, we don't care about emissions.

How about the Dynomax Super Turbo, looks like a full system for $160. Anyone experience that?

Thanks for the replies!
The Hooker connects to the y-pipe, or cat, just gut or replace a pipe for the cat and into one muffler.
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 11:17 PM
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Here's a pic of the tips that come with it.
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 11:38 PM
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From: St.Charles, MO/ Edwardsville, IL
Car: '03 S-10/ '87 Trans Am
Engine: mild 350
Transmission: TH350
Originally posted by Sitting Bull
Maybe he should toss the fuel injection and computer control and just put in a 4 bbl carb and vacuum controlled HEI distributor. He'll be able to make **** hp, have a simpler set up to work on and still have $1000 left over for headers, exhaust, etc.
I'll have to agree. While CFI is great in it's stock form, when you start doing mods it doesen't respond as much as a carbed engine. I say dump the computer get an Edelbrock intake and Holly carb to put on there along with a K&N and an HEI vacume advance distributer from MSD, Mallory, or Accel since he'll have no computer. Then go with a good exhaust (I recommend Mac Exhaust), a hi-flow cat, and Hedman Headers with Y-pipe. Costs...

Carb: $200
Intake $150
Distributer: $150
Open element, gaskets, ect.: $150
Cat-back: $300
Headers and Y-pipe: $200
Cat: $60
TOTAL: $1210

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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 11:42 PM
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I totally agree, and if it were my car, the CFI would already be gone. My only concern for that is that it's not exactly a bolt-on (well, it is) but it requires some more attention. Probably not the best idea for a non-Car guy.

Me on the other hand? The 454 is running a Weiand Team G 7523 with a BG Demon 850 =)
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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 11:57 PM
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I disagree, don't dump the CFI, dump its lame computer, swap in a later TBI computer so you can tune. Visit the Crossfire Injection Vault.
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