A kid that graduated from my school last year wants to race. He has a 97-98 Civic and its stock. Fart tip and tail-lights but that doesnt count. I'm in an 88 Iroc-Z with the l03 and automatic, he is manual. Wants to race from a stop light. Should I be afraid of this kid ? Should I race over a long distance or will he just catch me? Will I win off the line and should only race him about 1/8 mile or less?

 

Lets put it this way, I raced an almost identical car in my 86' Fiero SE and destroyed it. The Fiero was a fast car but its no IROC. I dont think you have anything to worry about.

 

lo3 isnt the greatest engine to be racing in until you mod it ....

 

Don't be scared of any race..........If you loose then next time you race him just make sure you kill him!!!!!!!!!

 

if it is a VTEC car it is fast. if it is not VTEC you'll beat him.

 

I ran one of those at the track a few weeks ago. We went 2 times and he lost both by 1/2 a second. This was a hatchback with a bunch of stuff done, everything but a power adder. He ran like a 10.3 and worse than that the second time. This is th 1/8th by the way. I had a buddy in a RS running 10.1's with a pegleg. Go run him!
He even had an Integra motor in the car!

 

well if its a stock motor its prolly a SOHC non VTEC so you'll own him.

 

We were out in my friends moms 1.6 VTEC civic the other night. Compared to his NA MR2 there was no contest, his MR2 would waste it. His MR2 does mid 15s or so. You should win no problem.

Rob

 

you could get an LO3 in an iroc?


If its a Vtec it'll be close, if not he'll be staring at your tailights..

 

Thanks for the reply's. Haven't talked to the kid with the car but I heard he is talking smack already. Something about putting 50 bucks on it. I was nervous until these reply's. I'll still be nervous with money on it. I am supposed to pick up a motor later this week I bought. It is a TPI and either a 350 or really strong 305 (the owner ran a 14.74 with automatic and 3.73's) and then I would deffinately stomp him after the swap. I'll post the results if I ever get to race him.

 

with either tpi motor in that car you'll beat him but an unmodified lo3 cant do much..

 

Heh.. wish someone would offer me $50 to mop the floor with them. Don't spend it all in one place.

 

Well there goes my suggestion of going to a strip club

Rob

 

don't worry. The '97-'98 cars didn't come from the factory with any DOHC VTEC engine. The only engines that came in those stock were no bigger than 1.6L, and only one (the EX model) has VTEC (rated at a whopping 127 horsepower). Just to be safe, crack open his hood to see if it's the stock engine. If it says DOHC VTEC then you might have something to be worried about (I had a '96 Integra GS-R that regularly beat 5.0's even when I had passengers in the car). Otherwise if it's just a SOHC VTEC and you don't see a Turbo, then take him for a ride in your car and politely tell him that it's not worth his time or risking a ticket to race.

 

if its an ex model civic then it has a 1.6 sohc vtec worth about 127 horse. in a 5 speed they are good for low to mid 16 seconds. with a few mods - intake/header/exhaust they will run high 15s to low 16's.
in your lo3 you'll pound him off the line, and it would take him about 90 mph to catch you.
if you go from a rolling start, he could just barely beat you if he's a good driver (i beat an lo3 in my civic this way-it was a 92 rs heritage) then i raced the guy from a standstill and even with a perfect launch he was getting 2 cars on me by 30 mph.
but if he has no mods you should edge him

 

This kid is starting to chicken out so I told him no money on it. He is still talking smack when I'm not around. I guess he heard my car the other day and that scared him a little. I know for a fact he is not a good driver, still getting used to the 5 speed I guess. I'm gonna find out exactly what his car is but no matter what I'm gonna race him and pray to *** that nothing goes wrong and I win. He keeps putting it off and its pissing me off, I wanna race already and stop talking.

 

slap a turbo on your engine and you won't have any worries.

 

cause ya know bolting on a turbo is easy

 

man....
talk some shhhit right back....
tell him that you have a "few extras" and you never let her loose for less that 200 bucks.... most people back off right there.... sure, sometimes your left lookin like the ***.... but your gettin the tpi anyway.... so you'll look better after that even if you do get stuck with your words

or there is the three step method for dealing with civics....

1. Run Him
2. Kill Him
3. Laugh

but really, you should take him.... don't put money on it, run him, see how it goes.... if your not afraid to race, then you shouldn't be afraid to lose.... cuz you will lose sometimes.... trust me, i drive an L03, your gonna lose... a lot actually, but you should take him

 

Remember though, he's a Civic boy and sprays Naws. Thise Civics are bad *** with Naws and stickers, remember that.

Rob

 

iroc's didnt come with lo3's, so If you have a real IROC no matter what model u will stomp him. And if it is an IROC and someone put an LO3 in it i summon that person to hell

 

Lo3's came with IROCs

 

YES THEY DID

 

Not tryin to flame or anything but they did come with L03's. I wish my car wasn't an L03 but unfortuneatly it is. I checked and my car has the original motor and it is a real IROC-Z.

 

Wow I seriously only thought they came with the lb9/l69/l98 engines, oh well ya learn something new everyday

 

Stomp Him!!!!I've never found a stock Civic that did better than 17-18 secs. I've watched several fart-canned VTEC's going through the traps at around 16.5. Your cars got that in it.

 

Well, after thinking long and hard this unedumacated civic driver says he doesnt wanna race me. He says something about a bad tranny (he just doesnt know how to drive it) and a failing fuel system He says he wants to race when his car is running right later this summer and he will catch me on the local cruising strip. I know he only wants to race later cause he is gonna get Nitrous or something of that sort but thats okay with me. By the end of the summer I hope to have 3.73's with posi and drop in a 350 (the TPI deal fell through so if anyone has one for sale let me know, as long as it runs) or a Nitrous kit installed. I guess I will just have to race him some other time.

 

I know this should probably be on the classified board but I can't find it and I forgot to mention. I'm interested in a 350 wether it is carb, tbi, or tpi. I am just tired of having to actually think twice about racing imports.

 

just outta curiosity...

what does the stock IROC with a LO3 run in the 1/4...

 

Come on dude you do the math 4 banger agianst an V8 and the 4 banger doesn't have a power adder . There's no fear . Tell that civic dude to bring it on and then drop some gears and display some skills on him. Read the sig "Drive it like you stole it".

 

you must be talking about 4 door dx autos:
not to start a flame war, but a good driver in a stock civic ex should be able to run a high 16. mine, with just an intake will run approximately 16.0-16.2, based on running it against my z28, and against misc. other cars, including many l03s. as much as i love f-bodies (especially third gen camaros) i get tired of people here in columbus w/ l03 and lg4s who think that their stock car can run 12's b/c an ls1 with mods will, just as much as many of you hate "ricers" who think that they can run 12's with tire flies, an intake, fart tube and a copy of the fast and the furious.
if i ever, and this is rare, try to pick a race w/anyone, its b/c i know that it will be a close race. i dont ever try to rev at ls1, lt1 and stang gt's, b/c i know what my slow car can do.
so i say to all of the imports: fast and the furious will not make your car fast (you actually have to do work and spend money)
and i say to all the camaro/mustangs/ ect. not all imports are slow, and not all are ricers. a stock lg4 or lo3 will run basically the same or slightly better than a stock sohc vtec civic. just 'cause it says camaro on it or has a v8, doesn't allways mean its fast., besides isn't it more fun when people work together to help each other make their cars fast, or handle better or whatever; import or domestic it shouldn't matter.

 

high 15's with a awesome driver.. low-mid 16's

 

I gotta agree with costill91Z. I know alot of kids that think there cars are the sh*t because it has a v8 and some who think they have the fastest car because they have seen The Fast and the Furious one too many times. Technology has made it possible for newer I-4 motors to run with older v8 motors. I still think there is no replacement for displacement but a 2000 4-banger civic with some mods can take my stock L03 v8 camaro. Thats why I asked if I should be scared or not. People just gotta realize what there car can and cannot do.

 

be very afraid any car will beat a turdgen

 

Are you freakin kidding me? You bump a 5 year old thread with this mindless drivel? Jesus Christ...

 

im bored
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very very very bored

 

3rd one Ive seen, go outside and get a life! Maybe meet some women, get some friends, something, please!!!

 

i have a wife and 3 kids i no longer have a life

 

Third gens are godly speed machines!

 

I feel your pain, believe me....

 

I fear no honda, I smoked a 1997 prelude off the line... my car still has the 305

 

and I fear no chevy as I beat an 87 nova off the line.


also whats so bad about having lsd as in your car info. lsd is good for your car and gets better grip.

 

dont be scared.. fear makes you weak.. just dont get caught street racing.. a stock civic will top mid 16's at best.. maybe worse.. my brother used to have a 95(not same generation) civic.. had an intake, header and cat.. still was slow as ****.. couldnt even chase down an extracab 4.3L auto s-10.. I have a regular cab 4.3L 5spd s-10 xtreme as well and no stock civic has come close to this 16.0 @ 88.. hahaha when my oldest brother had this truck he raced many a civic and prelude and beat them..

EDIT: one more thing, the truck has 3.08 GEARS!!!!! i can pull off a 1/4 mile just under the yellow before the redline in third..

 

depends on generation of civic. some of them have managed to get mid 15's and very few reaching into the low 15 stock. but those are usually the si style civic and actually have someone who knows how to drive a fwd car

 

just drag, who cares if you loose its all fun, and if you do loose a wager do some mods and then raise the wager