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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 10:41 PM
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Another 4th gen starts a fight, and looses

At a light, 3 lanes, I'm on far left, middle is a purple (gay plum color) 95ish firebird with an Lt1 and plenty of mods, and the far right is a c4 vette. I just pulled out from subway and was sipping on my drink the WHOLE time. I glanced over really quick only to see the 4th gen guy all hardcore looking straight ahead. His car was louder at idle than mine. I left my tranny in overdrive because I didn't expect him to do anything but when I heard tires loosing traction...I put the pedal down slowly (traction) ran right past the both of them still drinking my A&W root beer . It was so funny because he was so pissed.
So as I see it, that's yet ANOTHER kill. I guess this sleeper look is paying off. Now I hope with a 6 speed and more tuning (quality injectors), the car will be ready for the LS1 crowd. Traction limiting and the darn stock TC is killing me.
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 10:56 PM
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Nice kill, and it was done with TBI.
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 12:51 AM
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So, what happened with the C4 Vette? He didn't want to play..
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 01:00 AM
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I didn't see the vette because it was on the otherside of the bird. They were running the same but since the bird left first out of the 3 of us, the vette didn't have a chance. Basically he got a car length ahead of me and then it was wow, hi, bye, that was quick and then the last I remember was the bird dude just lagging WAY back behind me like he didn't want to get up next to the next light against me (figures) and the vette must have turned off somewhere because this was a long stretch of road. Oh well, just thought I'd let the TBI guys get a little glory.
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 02:17 AM
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Re: Another 4th gen starts a fight, and looses

Originally posted by JPrevost

So as I see it, that's yet ANOTHER kill. I guess this sleeper look is paying off. Now I hope with a 6 speed and more tuning (quality injectors), the car will be ready for the LS1 crowd. Traction limiting and the darn stock TC is killing me.
yeah once u get an T56 u cant sip root beer and race at the same time anymore ...lol

good kill anyways ...nice for a TBI
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by JPrevost
... Oh well, just thought I'd let the TBI guys get a little glory.
YES!!! IM not alone in this board!!!!!!!!
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 07:48 PM
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Subway has A&W Rootbeer now??? Im there
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 08:18 PM
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YES!!! IM not alone in this board!!!!!!!!
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Well I have a 305 so we are in the same boat there
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 09:58 PM
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I am sorry but I have to call we all know that TBI is slow. And nothing you do will ever make it fast. Rip that off and put a carb on there!
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 10:50 PM
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Most LT1s hand my *** to me (well, maybe not *that* bad.) I guess I should take up drinking root beer.
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by super83Z
I am sorry but I have to call we all know that TBI is slow. And nothing you do will ever make it fast. Rip that off and put a carb on there!
Is there maybe a joke I'm missing?


Anyway good kill Jon, I wish I could drink root beer while smokin losers off the light but I gotta shift.

That will change for you too though
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 11:51 PM
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good kill jp. wait til you get taht heap home and we actually get some tunign done on it hehe.

later
tim
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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 11:55 PM
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If you call my BS, how about sipping on this...at the track back in December, I raced against the same thing only with a 6 speed and it was black (more respectable color). Kicked his *** too. He left off but if you look at the 60' and 1/8 mile you'll see that I was ahead of him and he wasn't just "rolling." If I can find the slip I'll post it.
Not only a TBI but I did it with one hand and one foot with full tank of gas (actually helps me get traction on cold tires).
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 12:01 AM
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Nice race!
I never have the discipline to ease onto the gas in a race
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 12:21 AM
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I'll vouch for Jprevost and say that his kill sounds about right. This comes from a guy that has a very similiar setup as him, and knows that even a TBI motor can make power.
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 07:09 AM
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Good Kill

If you're running 13.80's I can believe you beat a LT1 since they were anywhere from very high 13 second (rare) to low 14 second cars (often)
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 12:26 PM
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Nice kill!

Definetly no BS call here. The car sounds nice. Keep modding and you'll be ready for us LS1 guys. Just remember that we arent all stock

-Doug
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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STOP to al those who doubt Jon........I have rode in the car and it is faster than a LT1. LT1=285hp L31...350....= 330hp starting. Now Jon has some excelent mods to go on his so he should be able to whip a LT1 at any time.

TBI is not slow just a tad harder to tune.....I had it and removed it because I didn't want to burn proms. Not because it was slow.



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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 05:15 PM
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WOW you all get the "no sense of humor" award.
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by super83Z
WOW you all get the "no sense of humor" award.
The winking smiley was a little hard to understand. I knew you were joking, it's the lack of sleep (from finals) that made ME sound like I was coming off serious in that reply.
I can't wait to pull a little more timing out and then have the timing come in quicker. It gets old having to "take it easy" when it's cold out because of the chance of backfire (yes I need to sit down and work on the timing a LOT).
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 09:00 PM
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Jon

Did you have a chance to make it to Jegs this weekend for the Dyno runs?


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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 09:00 PM
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I hear ya. I love hearing about fast TBI's. I figured you being a TBI guy would get the slap on a carb thing. Sounds like a sweet car.
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 09:26 PM
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"So as I see it, that's yet ANOTHER kill. I guess this sleeper look is paying off"

I would think my car would be a sleeper. Low profile hood and stock rims but my exhaust gives it away a little.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 01:12 AM
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Brian, nope, didn't get over to Jeg's but from what my friend told me, it wasn't worth it. He was going to get his f*rd 5.0 dynoed but people had gotten there at like 4am just to sign up for the free runs. Not to mention they had a list long mile of people that were going to pay.
I was working and studying. My dyno day will be in the form of a white piece of paper that reads my 1/4 mile ET and mph . I also plan on getting the car dynoed when I get my wideband o2 sensor all hooked-up.
TBI does require more tuning because it's too frequently disregarded as anything that could support high performance. I think that and the fact that it was installed on the lower performance engines just hurt the system as a whole. I plan to rectify this matter with my setup. Keeping the GM-ecm is a key part of the formula .
My car is a sleeper because right now it's got a quiet exhaust, mild cam, stock hood, and RS badges. The 1 tailpipe helps a little but nobody usually see's that when I pull up next to em. They usually just see the z28 spoiler with the RS body and asume it's an slow RS.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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hey, what time do you think you will be running with more tuning and some traction???
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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Looking for a low 13 second pass with at least a 104mph. That's with a stock TC which might change pending I find a 6 speed this summer.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 11:38 PM
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Most LT1s hand my *** to me (well, maybe not *that* bad.) I guess I should take up drinking root beer.
uh lt1s are not quick stock at all. even with a catback i run with one. those cars are just not fast as i first expected.
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