Was turning left and a nice black 5.0 pulls up next to me. Sounded really good, obviously not stock. Had a bunch of those extra gauges, if you know what I mean.

Anyways we turn, weave through traffic for a while, finally get open road. I tried to slow us down; we were going about 55-60. He wouldn't. So I caught back up to him, put it in D. Hit the gas once, he did the same. We took off at the same time. He downshifted and immediatly started pulling. Well, my car has a bad hesitation (dunno why) and when it finally downshifted I stopped his instant pull. Hit third gear and started catching up on him fast. My nose was at his rear and when we shut down around 90, it was just infront of his tires. Traffic came on way to quick. Definatly would have had him cause I was still pulling, but oh well.

We hit the next light and he's got his windows down blaring some rap music. Oh yeah, this guy is like 30 something. Anyways, I was gonna tell him nice race and nice car etc, but he wouldn't even look over. So I turned and went home. Oh well, was still fun.

 

Oops, I need to change my sig.

SLP headers into a 3" exhaust w/ flowcrappier 80 series, no more dual exhaust

And he wasn't SC'd or anything, so I dunno what his gauges were for.

 

Mustang gauges are notorious for false readings. A lot of guys with some money invested in their car add aftrmarket gauges to them to watch the vitals. I have an Water temp and oil pressure gauge mounted on my A-pillar. Found out my water temp was about 220 when the stock gauge said 190. I fixed the problem and the factory gauge still reads the same. Even the tach is way off over 2000RPM

 

Those 5.0 are really quick stock and don't take much mods to make even faster. I got beat by my friends modded 5.0 once. Get some more mods and go stang hunting

 

I lost my first race to a blue 5.0, it looked really nice. I'm pretty sure it was stock, as was my 305 at the time. I did have my tools and a 235 pound friend with me, though. It's amazing how much slower my car felt with that guy in it. My boss (at the time) sold almost the same car while I was working for him. I may have bought it if it wasn't running on 7 cylinders... neat that they got headers from the factory. Definitely an advantage.

 

The 5.0s to pick on are the autos. I am biased against them, now that I can proudly say I don't drive an AOD Mustang. Mustangs do take well to mods, and mid to low 13s isn't too far with the right combo on a stock motor!

 

AOD's suck big time!

 

Wow....you work fast! How long did it take you to do the conversion? Busy this weekend? lol



Yeah, AOD's suck. When i get sad from driving the slushbox i do in my basement and pretend to shift the T-5 i have sitting there waiting to get swapped in. Someday i will

A lot of the cocky Sn95 kids in my town think just because they have a 5-spd and i have an AOD they will win. We all know how fast those BONE STOCK 94-98 Mustangs are I love hearing "How did you beat me? You have an auto!"

 

um sn95 owners??? didnt 94-95 come with the 5.0 just a little more weight???

 

Sn95 is the 94-up Mustang chassis. Yeah, 94-95's are a little more porky, but their version of the 5.0 isn't as potent as the 87-93 version in stock form.

 

It took 3 days to do, and we didn't work the whole time. It was a pretty easy swap, and the hardest part was getting the H-pipe back in!!! I still have to get a adjustable clutch quadrant or something, I have to go to the floor to disengage the clutch and it is still grabbing some!

The SN-95s were weaker and heavier, a bad combo!

 

i hate 5.0s the only reason there is way to many of them to beat on. i hate on how they have so many places that sells there parts hella cheap and we have to ****in spend a **** load more money to do basically the same **** i think its ****ed the way they have it easy thats why i say **** on fords

 

Sorry about the loss dude, Do a few mods and you'll blow his door's off, Later

 

There's way more SBC stuff out there than 5.0 Mustang stuff. Supply and demand...

 

Ya, but it is nice for a 17 year old like me!!! Chaep parts are awesome. Thats why I drive a 5.0 Mustang!

 

Right. So I'm getting rid of my AOD and TBI as soon *** possible. Might try to sell them. Might find they retard that conceived the very idea of building either and jam them up his....well....

 

good idea fuel injection sucks its all about the carbs:hail:

 

I dumped the AOD, and the difference is night and day. With the same gears, the car is MUCH faster. I am going to the track tomorrow, and I will bring ome numbers back.

They won't be too good, I have only been driving a stick for a week now!!! Can we say missed shifts!!!

 

how can u miss shifts for third and fourth if u ever go there all u do is push strait up dont go to the left or right the shifter is self sentering

 

3rd gear is infamous for being hard to find on a Mustang.

 

im sick of dumb kids who always think manual is the best. as soon as i got my car, everyone was saying " put a 5 speed in it...blah blah " i just told them to shut up. Stick is cool, and prob better for racing and all...but driving stick in a city for ever get's annoying. everyone who has stick complains about it eventually. So the big difference w/ stick is that instead of taking 30-35 hp away like auto...it only takes 20-25 hp away....big deal. Auto is cool cuz u dont have to sit there and watch ur rpm the whole time and worry about shifting. i just dirve, when i race i sure as hell shift myself. mostly cuz my kick down cable is'nt adjusted to shift at 4200 rpm. my car is stock by the way...just exhuast. rebuild an auto tranny w/ a "race rebuild kit" and put a shift kit in... and it will shift as hard as any performance clutch. i know a guy who was doing 12.0's w/ the iroc 350, stock rotating.... auto. shifted hard as f**k too.
long live the auto's....

 

Auto w/manual valve body...best of both worlds :lala:

 

Now if I only had overdrive

 

I'm sure you already know this, but the Turbo SVO and TC T-birds had hurst narow gate short throws in them. I don't remember when they switched to WC t-5s, but it was like '86 or '87. I haven't missed a 3rd gear powershift in my TC yet. Knock on wood.

 

hey optha i dont wanna flame u but i am. u actaully watch ur rpms . that is really really sad i mean i started driving a stick at age 7 and that prob helped alot and not all dads are as cool as mine but within a few months i was able to tell when i should shift by the sound of my enigine i mean i have a shift lite but i only use it when i do wot shifts. i drive in san francisco all the time and i dont mind driving a stick. if ur really good u can just leave it in 3rd or second gear most of the time untill ur over 30 witch no speed limit in this city is over 35 so u dont have to worry about shifting half the time. so u must be pretty bad at shifting then or just lazy as hell

 

I may be forced to follow soon. My AOD is acting up on me. What i thought was hesitation, is actually the tranny slipping through 1st gear. It's not a fast rev-to-redline slip, but one where the RPM's keep going up slowly but the speedo doesn't really budge much. The only way i was certain it was a slip is because when i shifted to 2nd gear on the AOD, it was at a lower RPM than it normally should be. To top it off something on the AOD has been leaking like a sieve lately. It's not the pan...something up top.

Anyway, now it feels like my car runs mid-15's because not 100% of the power that used to go to the wheels is there.

Time to dust off the 5-spd parts and get ready to swap. Maybe this weekend i'll toss the PITA clutch pedal and clutch cable in so that i can just go to my buddy's shop, put the car on the lift and yank the AOD out. Once it's out...i'm in familiar territory as i've done clutches on 5-spds many times before.

Goodbye AOD..hello 5-spd

 

My SVO is a 85 and it came with the WC T5 and the Hurst Shifter. Feels really good but I have misshifted while drifting or attempting to drift (got too excited!)

 

DO IT 5L5!!! It was the best mod I have done so far. With the 3.73s it is alot faster!!! The pedal assemblies were nowhere near as hard as people said they would be.

And for anyone here who has driven a Mustang, they know the stick and the auto is no comparison!!! If you let the auto shift itself, you run 15s, so you have to look at the RPM anyway, and I have a tach w/lite going in soon. I also have the Pro 5.0 shifter, I got yesterday, that is spring loaded into 3rd, but with the short arm it is a pain to get into gear!!! No leverage!

I have only been driving for a little, but I DONT granny shift. I have had people tell me now that I can nail the gears hard for just learning. I won't powershift yet, but someday!!!

 

I poweshift every gear except 5th in my 4 banger...of course, if I blow something up in that I could care less :lala:

 

I hate it when on the rare occasion you get a good race in the guy doesnt even have the respect to look over. Maybe he is used to stomping all over imports and didnt realize you were right next to him.

 

I would definately show respect for any Mustang or Camaro next to me! American muscle should stick together!

 

I hope this isn't too far off topic, but how much would I have to change to make my car carbureted? Would I have to do a total rebuild if the carb is like 500-600 cfm?
What kind of transmission should I get to replace an AOD on a Crown Victoria? C6, C4, C5...?
I figured I would ask a few quick questions while we were talking about AOD and TBI dumping.

 

:hail: C4

 

Drop in a 351 W with a C-6. Any body ever put a 3 speed manual in thier car? IBTL:lala:

 

C6 = big waste of money

C4's are lighter and can be built to handle 1000+ hp...no need for the extra weight, driveline loss from a C6.

 

I agree...C4 is the best automatic Ford has

 

That's what I'll get then. I think I know where I can get one.
But about the Carb...will I have to rebuild?