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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 10:55 AM
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Wich is faster stock -01 corvette c5 vs -01 mustang saleen e281 sc. vs -02 camaro ss with full exhaust + filter.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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I would think it's a driver's race actually, is the s-281 the one that makes like 390hp? Comes down to driver, traction, weather (supercharger's don't like heat).
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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If you are talking about the s-281E, i think they have like 435 horsepower. That would win.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 11:44 AM
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A 2002 Z06 vs. the S281E would be a better race........ still the slight advantage to the saleen.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 11:58 AM
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saleens are not a stock car though....its just modified by someone then resold.....realistically the vette and the saleen are probably close in price as well.....the z06 with a few 100 bucks in aftermarket stuff would wipe its a** with the saleen.

some dude up at NED has a brand new z06 with the minor stuff like a carbon fiber air box and some other stuff, MAF i think....but not awhole lot and it runs 12.00 allll night
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 12:17 PM
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The regular S281 s/c would run in the high 12s! The C5 should be high 12s, to low 13s, and the SS should be low 13s solidly. If it was the S281-E than it would be mid to low 12s!
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 01:13 PM
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So the s-281 E is the higher hp model, I was thinking of the standard supercharged 281 which may be slightly quicker than a stock vette or I/E SS but not much.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 01:28 PM
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The regular C5 should be pretty quick. 12.90-13.2 if driven well (remember no more non Z06 FRC's). The camaro SS with exhaust and a lid should be also running right in that range.

I am not positive on the mustangs specs...never seen one, never driven one.

Oh yeah, I saw Z06 with an airbox and drag radials run 11.80's all day last spring.

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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 07:56 PM
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saleen, then corvette, and then the ss.. that would be a race to see!!
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 09:16 AM
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What is the difference betwen c5 and camaro, dont they have the same engine, c5 is little bit lighter.........
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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For the most part...

A stock vette and a stock Fbody will put the same amount of power to the ground (rwhp). Keep in mind that the vette is making more power at the flywheel, but has more parasitic loss in the drivetrain.

So the vette pushes the same power to the ground, but is lighter and more areodynamic. Advantage - vette

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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 11:56 AM
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I'm just throwing my opinion in here...

If its a Z06, an 01 is good for 12.7 in the 1/4, and 02 is good for 12.4...

Saleens, id rather not waste my time, id put the SS up close with the saleen...

all stock, id have to have say Z06...

and why are vettes faster? because they get better heads, cam, and manifolds, motors and stuff are the same...

just check out the 86 iroc vid, thats the only difference between the 5.7L TPI vette/iroc/z28...
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
saleens are not a stock car though....its just modified by someone then resold.....
And a SS is stock? Hello, SLP SLP SLP
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by KlayBuRn
I'm just throwing my opinion in here...

If its a Z06, an 01 is good for 12.7 in the 1/4, and 02 is good for 12.4...

Saleens, id rather not waste my time, id put the SS up close with the saleen...

all stock, id have to have say Z06...

and why are vettes faster? because they get better heads, cam, and manifolds, motors and stuff are the same...

just check out the 86 iroc vid, thats the only difference between the 5.7L TPI vette/iroc/z28...
I saw a Z06 with exhaust and lid only run a 12.5@112mph. So I'm sure it was low 13 to high 12 stock.

Saleens, you'd rather not waste your time? WTF? Ok I agree that they are TOTALLY over priced but they ARE a hell of a car.

No, Vettes aren't faster. (Z06 is) but stock for stock I have seen SS's and WS6's beat C5s.

And the Saleen S351 or S281E would put the SS in reverse.
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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And a SS is stock? Hello, SLP SLP SLP
dude please....dont be ignorant. the SS is modified by SLP.......however no where near the degree that a saleen is. the SS is a great car but its really just a slightly warmed over version of the z28. the saleen is pretty heavily modified
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 04:26 PM
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Snake, are you guys talking about a plain jane C5, or a Z06?

Ive read enough car magazines(Car and Driver, Motortrend, etc, etc), to read across the board, that a 01 does the 1/4 in 12.7, and a 2002 runs 12.4...thats nowhere close to a SS/Z28, whatever...but then again, its 15 grand more...

Point is, the saleen is way overpriced...hell...all those cars are...

take $50k for a new vette, put $7500 in a good body Z, hell just $5000, and $45k is a lot of money to be dumpin into a drivetrain...

can yo usay, c-ya later z06, saleen, whatever it is...
ahha
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
dude please....dont be ignorant. the SS is modified by SLP.......however no where near the degree that a saleen is. the SS is a great car but its really just a slightly warmed over version of the z28. the saleen is pretty heavily modified
No where near the degree of a Saleen? Do you even know how many stages of Saleen's there are?
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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ya i do, we're talking about an s281 vs an SS camaro here.....slp upgrades a few things based on what options are ordered. The s281 is far more worked than an SS is from its stock counterpart. the lowest model saleen you can get is still more far removed from a stock car than an SS is. anyways who gives a ****, run the race see who wins. racing isnt about talking

oh ya and the z06 is stock, its built by the manuafacturer and is a production car, therefore its stock
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 10:03 PM
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C5 overall, but I think it would be very close assuming the drivers had the same driving skills.
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 11:06 PM
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Well if the Mustang is sent to Saleen, then it is only fair that the Vette gets the same treatment .. You can have your Saleen and I will take my Lighenfelter. We will who wins then .
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 11:56 PM
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Well if the Mustang is sent to Saleen, then it is only fair that the Vette gets the same treatment .. You can have your Saleen and I will take my Lighenfelter. We will who wins then .
The Saleen is equivelent to the performance of a C5. Corvettes are in a different class than Mustangs and F-bodies. Vettes are affordable supercars.
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 11:58 PM
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Well if the Mustang is sent to Saleen, then it is only fair that the Vette gets the same treatment .. You can have your Saleen and I will take my Lighenfelter. We will who wins then .
ya those lingenfelter vettes have game.

word:rockon:
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 12:01 AM
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ya those lingenfelter vettes have game.

word:rockon:
If the Vette was taken to Lingenfelter, the playing field would not be evenly matched.
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 10:35 AM
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Do Lingenfelter Vette's have factory warrantees?
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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uuummm, nope they have lingenfelter warranties i believe they are 2yr 24K mile or 3yr 36K mile i cant remember, but they do warranty everything they do.

id say a 2 year 24K mile warranty is pretty impressive on a 427ci corvette that puts around 800hp and runs a 9.2 1/4 is pretty damn impressive...and it does it all street legal
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 06:04 PM
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wow too bad they cost so much!
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 10:16 PM
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Actually, SLP is more like SVT than Saleen, think about that! Saleen removes the seats out of the cars, in my book that is a little bit more than just the exhauts and lid that SLPs does. Remember Saleen and Lingenfelter are very similar, and the caliber of cars from Lingenfelter seem to be better, although much higher priced!
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 01:40 AM
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ya what he said.....

lingenfelter is a genius.....he even kicked hennesy's *** at his own game

the viper that lingenfelter modified had almost as much power as the hennesey venom 800 twin turbo (about 850hp) but the lingenfelter one was naturally aspirated hehehe. the crazy **** sawed the intake manifold in half and ported it from the inside, then welded it back together:rockon:
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