No it wont

 

we were talking 80s and early 90's wernt we

 

Prove it. I don't know the stock times of either so I am kind of curious.

 

Assuming C-Dawg is referring to a 89' TTA, not the GTA in the pic. TTA at Indy in 1989, was clocked at 171.xx in the straights. 2000 Corbra R, (not even a classified production vehicle, with only 300 units) 170-180

 

u assumed right....

 

Yea I know, I was just giving you guys some hate. We all know the V6 GTA owns all in the late 80s to early 90s.

 

I will admitt a TTA will dominate in a straight away and the turns, but I am also looking at the fact that in the classifieds near me there are maybe one or two of them whereas there are a couple hundred 5.0 Mustangs. If you can find one for a decent amout of money I say jump on it, but the truth is they are hard to find (I know I was looking at those and GNs!). But comparing the mainstream 5.0 and L98 we have great competition!

 

I'm sick of the lame weight excuse. I killed a 87 IROC 305 TPI and he used the weight excuse! My car with system, me and 1/2 tank of gas weigh in at 3440lbs which is not light. I have normal bolt ons and street tires with my stock 3.27's that cam optional in my AOD car. BTW.. I went from a best of 14.84@96.5 to my best in my sig with ONLY a tranny swap!! BTW..my buddies lightly modded 90 L98 ran 14.6@97 . My other friends 100% stock low mileage 93 GT AOD ran a 14.88@96.7!! With just pulleys and cold air...14.66@96.9 in warmer weather. My cousins 5spd 89GT with just K&N, catback, and pulleys ran a 14.3@99 with spare tire, jack and stereo system intact. This is also with only the stock 2.73's still and the car has 144,000 miles with the 4 cats still on!! With 3.27's it ran a 14.09@100.1 with 225/60 Yokohama's on it. So the GT's are not slow. I've yet to run my 86 LX yet but it will be 100% stock when I run it 1st. My friend with the 90 IROC now has a SLP cam, ported heads, airfoil, chip but stock exhaust. I PUSH him down the road with my GT. So..
Stock vs. stock L98 is close to a 5.0 but after the mods start...the Mustang has a serious advantage.

 

My car weighs 2920 with me in it :lala: :lala: :lala: :lala:

 

Is it stripped out?

 

Hmm, I wouldnt call it that big of an advantage. It all depends on the cars. These cars are old, ive seen some slow modded 5.0's myself.

 

The high-end thirdgens could hang with 5.0's, the later ones were a hair faster ('90-'92 L98 cars.....), the rest didn't have a chance. This applies mostly to the LX models, GT's were very fair game. But facts are facts, this isn't a ford/chevy thing. Anyone who knows anything admits that in the '80s, the mustang, overall, was the better deal when it came to straight-line acceleration, whereas the thirdgens prevailed in handling and looks (subjective). They were lighter and had a very good powerplant and a 5 speed. But thats 15 years ago. Arguing over 14.6 vs. 14.8, both times aren't that impressive. Who cares what these cars ran when Ronnie was still president? I don't. These cars shouldn't be kept stock anyway. If someone comes up to me and says "oh your car only ran 14.1 stock and mine ran 13.9....", i'm not going to really give a rats ***. With a 377, I could care less about 1985 when i'm sorting through a collection of 12 second timeslips in 2003 (which is when i'll have everything ready to go ). The higher end thirdgens and 5.0 mustangs are both great platforms, mod-for-mod, although the 5.0 aftermarket blows the thirdgen aftermarket away.

 

Nope, full interior and still has all the power accessories. My goal is to get it back under 2900 lbs with me, as it was before I switched to the 8.8" rear.

 

How in the **** did you manage that!! Are you a anorexic midget or something!!

My 86 LX has no options (except A/C that I removed)..no tilt,cruise, pwr mirrors or anything and even has no center console!!! And I know it weighs more than that! It says 2942 lbs on the title and those are always optimistic, the car is always heavier than that. I removed the A/C on it so take maybe 40-50 lbs for that off and say 2900. Add my weight of 145 lbs + gas and it would have to be around 3100 I would estimate. Aluminum heads? Removed sway bars? Light weight control arms? Something just doesn't add up...

 

Alum. heads, C4, tubular front suspension, coilovers, no a/c, no smog, no front swaybar, alum. radiator, a coupe body, and me @ 130 lbs.

 

geez...

 

Wow, mine was 3240 with me, no pass seat, no back seat, no spare or jack, no rear carpet, no floor mats! This was with the AOD, and now with the T-5 it weighed 3210 with me no spare tire, jack or back seat! My dads weighed 3040 (he weighs 220 lbs) with no sway bar, no spare tire, jack, back seat, racing seats (he needs the headroom so might as well save weight ) no A/C and lightweight front rims.

I agree that in a straight line after minor mods the Mustang simply walks away! Come on with just gears exhaust, tires, and a filter you could be making a run at 12s!

 

Ya..thats some good weight reduction. My 93GT has everything it came with from smog to A/C. Only thing it doesn't have is the converters of course. I want to run my 86 all stock 1st then go from there. It is 100% stock from the tail pipes to the air silencer!! How many Mustangs like that are left!! It's 1 of 250 FHP cars that were made in 86 too. I have to restore it basically since it is rough but runs awesome. I had a few people say it won't run in the 14's stock so I have to prove them wrong!!

 

i guess i have a "freak" lb9 5 speed

every stock gt or lx for that matter will not pull on me untill above 120 when i get into 5th....but the 1LE 5th gear will take car of that

btw 91 gta fully loaded except cd...

"One thing for sure...
Fbodies have WAY better handling. A LB9 5 speed with WS6 suspension will eat up a mustang all day on a road coarse. "

this is why i CANT wait for englishtown to opent here road corse


although i will still have the 305 i will be puttin down a solid 350 horse to the ground...i have detailed documentation to back this up

its actually 409 crank hp and 450+/- crank ft pounds

 

Since you've got detailed documentation, would you mind posting it? Not many people have anything other than desktop dyno stuff, so that would be cool.

 

how do i change the format of a file?

i just tried to post it but it wont because its not in the right format

 

What format is it currently in?
Just use a program like Winzip (winzip.com), to put the file in as a .zip file....after that you can just upload it here as an attachment.

 

wow, i guess every one has there own thought on this topic. I just have to say one thing that i know it true 4 a fact 3rd gen camaros and trans ams LOOK WHY BETTER IN EVERY WHY POSSIBLE!!!!!!

 

That's a pretty subjective "fact"

I won't argue with you on performance because it all comes down to mods and maintenance, but looks I will argue with you on all day long. The fox body Mustang wins that hands down, no contest.

 

Here are my views on apperance...

-Mustang LX notchback = kinda funny lookin, but cool.
-Mustang LX hatchback = nice looking car
-Mustang GT hatchback = ugly and boxy(looks too much like escort)
-Iroc = nice looking car
-Trans Am/GTA = nice looking car
-Formula = kinda funny lookin, but cool
-(91-92)Z28's = very nice looking car

I like the looks of both mustangs and fbodies. The main reason I stayed away from mustangs is their interior, which IMO is much less comfortable than a Fbody.

-Doug

 

Well seeing as that the opinions are running wild, I will say that I have been in mnay 3rd gen Fodies, and Fox body Mustangs and the interior of the Mustang is much nicer! For one, ALOT less rattles and creaks in the Mustang (maybe just the Fbodies I have been in!) and the Mustang has alot more room everywhere! More headroom, leg room, rear seat room, and trunck area, in a shorter and narrower car! Plus I will never get over the fact of that the bump in the passenger floor! I don't see how you could sell a car in 2002 with that!

These are just my opinions, but then again my car has 2001 GT leather seats, and power everything, so maybe I am spoiled!

 

performance wise i dont know some say yes some say no i just gave up on it. i have nothing against the why mustangs look i love the look when they have the body kit and convertable i want one my self. but me, i think trans am camaros look alot better, put them beside each other and u will see, beside girls love my car, and they pick mine over my buddies mustang. LOL and thats good enough for me.

 

Mine weighs 3150 without me in it and a full tank. That's in full street trim with nothing stripped out at all. Ir's a fully loaded car with A/C and a heavier AOD also. The AOD weighs about 75lbs more than the T-5 so if i did my T-5 swap and ditched the spare tire and front sway bar and maybe a few other things i could be down around 3000 pound with all my power goodies.

 

That is light. I had to remove alot to weigh 3150! I would say with the AOD and everything I would have been about 3300.

 

all this talk about the L98 and you guys havent even brought up the Vette! 4 simple mods and you can go 12s EASY in a TPI Corvette:

cat back exhaust - $360
high flow front ypipe - $200
drag radials - $340
GM 2500 stall converter - $200

to top it all off, you can say your motor is 100% stock. youll have 12 second timeslips and you havent even added headers yet!

 

My GT weighed 3500 exactly when it was still AOD. Loaded GT with a spare, jack and my stereo system. I am estimating it at 3440 now from the T-5 swap since the T-5 is lighter. I was running 14.84@95.6 I think when it was AOD and dropped to the time in my sig just from the swap AND I added the sytem AFTER I ran the car with the AOD! I did have 17" rims though then. My system is heavy, components in front, mids in back, (2) 12" subs, (3) amps, crossover, stiff cap, 4 gauge power and ground, and flush mounted in the hatch. You can see it in the site in my sig. I only weigh 145 too. Its is a 93 so it has the airbag also.