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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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Will I have a problem with imports?

I have a almost stock 83 H.O., save the K&N. I plan on getting some exhaust, maybe a cat-back, maybe full, don't know yet. My little town is overrun with imports, none turbo. Most of these are fart-pipes, and cold air-intakes. Would I have a problem holding ANY eclipse, civic, accord, celica, etc. etc. anything like that?
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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Figure high 15s at best for your 305 assuming 5-speed and some ability to drive. You might have trouble with some of the newer cars as some do indeed run fairly well for naturally aspirated 4 or 6 bangers. 305s are not very awe inspiring near stock, although yes I know there's some dude with a 9 second 305 and there are many in the low 14s. At least you have a carb and not ceasefire injection. If you pick your races you'll do well.
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 09:14 PM
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Fairly high 15's for a inexperienced driver right? Where should I redline her? It has been sitting for 10 years, and I'm just starting to rack some miles. She has seen 5k, no problems, even though she has seen 5k before with spark knocks a couple times. I seen a old car & driver, whichj I still got of a 83 l69 puttin 15 flat. All I really need is some low end power and a little bit of roll for 220 bypass, and I'm good to go. Should I get to installin my intake one day, and do exhaust? Due to family emergency, I haven't had time to do anything.
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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I'd recommend a Hooker catback for the 82-84 if you haven't bought that flowmaster just yet, it's a better muffler and has more of a tone than a drone, personal opinion so take it or leave it.
The stock HO dual snorkle induction setup is pretty good, getting a K&N element that fits in the stock dual snorkle is good enough until you get a cowl provided that heater valve on the driver side is working properly and not stuck closed or something along those lines.
Your posi is most likely shot, so if you're looking to spend a bit more money to change gears and fix that crappy posi. 3.73s are a good number for a carb car but 3.42s are acceptable if you're feeling ambitious and swap in a 4th gen rear.
There are a few things you can do to the quadrajet to get it working a little better, you should search the carb board.

Where you shift in each gear really depends on your engine but figure a max stock of 5500. Over that can and will damage your engine since it is stock and old not to mention probably high mileage.
305 HOs aren't that bad with the 5-speed, but still they'll blow your T5 up if you're not gentle. Take it easy with your car and you won't have to worry about the reliability of the T5.
Old Aug 13, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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I was running 15.0's with my L69 in my 84 TA bone stock. I put my 4.10's in and now im running 14.70's. So by switching out the stock 3.73's for 4.10's, i dropped about 3 tenths. BTW, its a 5-speed car. Keep in mind that is with 125,000 miles on it, and running it up to 6,000 every shift. As long as your car is running right, id say mid-15's if you cant really drive....or high 14's-low 15's depending on state of tune, conditions, and driving it like youre trying to break it.
Old Aug 13, 2003 | 02:13 PM
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I have 35,000 miles on it....yes 35k. Original tires, which unfortunately are coming off soon, but will not be thrown away, because well, they factory tires. The problem is its been sitting 10 years and its hard on the car. Yes I purchased the flowmaster, but I seriously considered it, and I want the better Hooker or Dynomax Exhaust. As for the 3.73's bein shot, I'll check into it...But if it wasn't for 3.73 gears, this thing would be SLOW. Could I find another 3.73 set somewhere, thats stronger? I'm on a high school budget, surrounded by imports, and gas is a minor problem. Thank you.
Old Aug 13, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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First get your car running right, then get headers, a hight flow cat or no cat at all , and a cat back exhaust. I have seen guys with the 305 HO and just a full exhaust and K&N filter running mid to high 14's , I cant think of any N/A imports running those times, and if that isnt enough get a performer RPM intake and modify your Qjet. Also do some suspension work and youll be set.Good Luck.
Old Aug 13, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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and driving it like youre trying to break it.
is there any other way to go about it???
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 06:05 PM
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Can't break it....yet. I have no other mode of transportation besides.....












Riding with mom
Old Aug 15, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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and driving it like youre trying to break it.
Isn't that how they taught us in drivers ed?

For real though, when i had drivers ed we were using 3 cylinder Geo metros. The dumb chic i was driving with accidentally knocked it in nuetral merging on the freeway and blew the damn thing up!!!

Back to the original topic, i would say if you are careful who you play with you will be okay. Now me on the other hand, i cant play with anything new out there
today. Having a v6 blows
Old Aug 15, 2003 | 03:21 PM
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:/ Idk, I MIGHT make this thing go....350 probably...my dad probably won't let me go blow big dollars on a motor for a 16 year old.
Old Aug 15, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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"Would I have a problem holding ANY eclipse, civic, accord, celica, etc. etc. anything like that?"

Yes, you will have a problem.lol
Old Aug 16, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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if you're an L69 H.O. with a 5-speed and 3.73s, get some good tires a tune-up, and learn to power shift that T-5, you could get hgh 14s and that's enough to keep you above most 4 cylinders, even a few boosted ones.
Old Aug 19, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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I wouldn't do too much to a car with that low of miles, the early 3rd gens are har to find in good shape and low miles. I can count the nice ones around here on one hand...and the junks ones are too many to count!
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 01:48 AM
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honestly i wouldnt worry to much about beating ****...if its non turbo then all i would reccomend is exhaust and u should be able to hold ur own. juss a question why was it sitting for so long?!
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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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Thats a very sharp looking car! What exactly is done to the car?
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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to my car?.....these are the mods...thanks i like it alot it works well with ladies too. (looking and sounding good)

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Old Aug 22, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by 84'Camaroboy
to my car?.....these are the mods...thanks i like it alot it works well with ladies too. (looking and sounding good)
that is badass. running a 13.3 with a cammed 305, those L69s are definitely not pushovers
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 11:12 PM
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Stock 305 with just a cam and exhaust?? Maybe with heads, cam, intake. But just a cam that seems way out there from what I've seen. Thats LS1 territory, or as fast as me and I'm SC'ed with more power stock. Either more work or it has nitrous.
Old Aug 23, 2003 | 01:59 AM
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it has heds and intake as well....but i dont lik the whole intake thing honestly i dont find that much of a difference between intake and the original dual snorkel?...could just be in my head.....i also managed to only have an 1/8th of a tank of gas and no rear seat when i ran that i have ran lik 13.6-13.78 lately.

however it is pretty fast i guess i do pretty much own the parking lot at school for fastest car....only tihng close was a turbo 300zx and i think i we raced when i was stock?..not to sure

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Old Aug 25, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by 84'Camaroboy
honestly i wouldnt worry to much about beating ****...if its non turbo then all i would reccomend is exhaust and u should be able to hold ur own. juss a question why was it sitting for so long?!
The owner had so many cars to play with, it just sat.
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 11:09 PM
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No problem with NA imports? Don't be so ignorant. Granted most are little **** burners that owners think are king, but believe it or not imports don't need boost to be fast. I'm assuming you mean sport compacts instead of imports, but for example I have a friend with a motor swapped 97 civic that runs low low 14's. All he did to the car was the swap. Just don't underestimate your competition, and start burning some ****.

Let me guess though. Do most of the cars around your town have APC stickers everywhere?
Old Sep 16, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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Don't forget about the S2000. 240 HP and it's N/A. Look out for those things.
Old Sep 16, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by 84'Camaroboy
to my car?.....these are the mods...thanks i like it alot it works well with ladies too. (looking and sounding good)
That trap speed seems high for those mods...
Old Sep 16, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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Don't forget about the S2000. 240 HP and it's N/A. Look out for those things.
My friend ran a 13.87@101 with his parents S2000 dead stock. Very quick and have alot of topend, 145+.
Old Sep 16, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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This was already covered.
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