I was on the pacific coast hwy today, I'm the passenger in my bro's '84 firebird (lg4). We hit a red on a open, flat 1/2mile section and an '02 Camaro SS is next to us. So I say to the guy whatta ya got in there? He goes "LS1" so I say well we got an lg4 and it's fast (it's stock ) He says "what is that?" I say you're about to find out! So the light turns green and my buddy floors it, and we are already ahead of him. I'm like damn he won't run. Then he hits the gas and pulls so **^#$#% hard it's like a joke. That's the first time I got to see what an LS1 can really do. They sure fly!

 

No doubt. Looks even faster from inside a Yugo!

 

They have the most potential with the stock parts than any small block ever produced. It is not uncommon for those cars to hit 11's with just bolt ons.

 

 

Hahaha, their not fast, your just slow . They love to look at my ***.

 

WAAA HA HAA HAAAAAA :rockon:

 

No, no, you have me confused with my friend...He's not fast. I'm kinda fast

 

Yea, they are pretty fast stock...the 01-02 especially. My friend has a low option 02 Z28 that is fast..ran 13.2@108 stock.

 

You are just "TBI fast" which is slow, I know that first hand.
Laters,
Conrad

 

Yep, LS1's are pretty quick. Even in a heavy pig like the GTO

 

they're even quicker if you put them in a lighter thirdgen.....

 

84 LG4 - 115HP to the wheels.
02 LS1 - 315HP to the wheels.

 

add a cam and basic mods (less intake restricton, headers, exhaust) to the LS1 and you can easily get 400 to the wheels.


and it'll still get better gas milage then the LG4

 

Their great engines, but their not unstoppable.

 

"You are just "TBI fast" which is slow"
That's why I said kinda fast

 

you mean the same way you see mine?

 

LOL jack ***, your so going down when we put this cam in my car the 31st!!!

 

 

yep! A LS1 thirdgen VS a LS1 4th gen with both T56s... Thirdgen most likely cuz its lighter.. Also how much do 4th gens weigh?

 

x 10

 

I mean no disrespect and I'm trying to trying to start a flame war but how many LS1's are you beating only running a 13.7? Granted your trap is damn good but a 13.7 isn't a LS1 destroyer.

 

"13.7 isn't a LS1 destroyer."

Seriously.

 

Exactly.

 

i agree, correct me if im wrong, but isnt 107mph seem to high for 13.7s??????

 

its called lack of driver skill at the track. the ET is not indicative of the potential of that car at all. and especially once he gets the CC306 in next week, it definitely will be an LS1 destroyer, at least stock to mild bolt-on ones.


and I can say that because I was there

oh yeah, I was running low 13's at 105-107 with a stock LT1, TB airfoil, hedman shorties, cutout, and drag radials.

 

Look at the 60'. Was done on street tires and no burnout.

 

Funny, that same race I wooped a 00 SS, buddy of mine with a 5.0 fox body has it on tape. I do most of my fun on the streets. Once again, look at the 60'. Traction isn't an issue on the streets.

 

Uhh...yea 2.396!!! Thats some serious traction issues. You would get a better time AND trap speed with a better 60ft. I was running 13.24@108 one run..got tires warm and dropped my 60ft from a 2.1x to a 1.90 and ran a 12.77@111! Last time to track I ran 12.85@108 with 1.90 60ft time. I'd like to see what you could get for trap speed and tiems with a better 60ft. My cousin has a SC;ed 89 GT and has the same problems with tracton. His best is a 13.5@106 I think at the track spinning bad. But on the street my friend could not beat him with his 2000 SS than ran 13.20@108. The 89 GT was right on him through every gear up past 100 even. I bet you could get a 109 trap speed with some practice..and easy hgih 12's. My car is the same way though...hooks way better on the street..

 

None taken, explained it above .

 

ls1's are weak. compaired to a modded 383 or a ls2. i seen a kid in a 02 TA ls1 auto trans run a 13.6 with his only mod a m.a.s. or something like that. a tiny mod like a sensor. ive seen the 4.6L 03 mach 1's run 12.9 stock no mods just the free stuff like taking out a head light and some plumbing. and of course lowering the tire pressure to like 12-14 lbs.

yeah a ls1 would kill my car but once i get my 100hp shot if nitrous those ls1's are gonna be weaping. my car is lighter then a ls1 and has about 100hp less to the wheels right now but with that 100hp shot itll put me right up there if not a couple more horses. my motor wont last long but i will still be able to say i beat a ls1 with a 305. lol

 

yea good luck buddy with your "POS" engine

 

Originally posted by slim84maro

"my car is lighter then a ls1 and has about 100hp less to the wheels right now but with that 100hp shot itll put me right up there if not a couple more horses. my motor wont last long but i will still be able to say i beat a ls1 with a 305."

I doubt you have 220-240rwhp. What motor do you have? lg4 i'm guessing? so that's like 115rwhp dawg. You ain't got jack. Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

i was thinkin the same.. L98 doesnt make that stock, so with a POS engine.. i dunno man

 

my engine isnt that bad, but i cant change my profile cause im on probation. it was rebuilt with edelbrock performer package. the 600cfm carb, intake, cam, lifters, then the head ports where mildly ported. im making about 220hp to the wheels. beleive it or not. ABOUT 205-210rwhp then once i get my headers on i would say 220hp. i dont know what motor i have. it wasnt origanal though. i ran the numbers on the block and it came back as a 305, 80-85's 2 bolt main. if i ever find someone with a g-tech ill see what i have but until then im sticking to 205 without headers then 220 with headers. i can beat a any stock thridgen 350 out there. carbed,tbi, but the tpi would be close. too close for me to call it. so yeah with a 100hp shot nitrous i bet i can make one weap. just cause it will be close and he will be like wtf?!?!

 

 

Pasky...yeah I know with your trap speed you're moving...and I was talking more about the track. I know on the street anything can happen. That 107 trap is a solid 12 second run with traction.

Good luck after the cam swap, I'm curious to see what times you can pull

 

You make my head hurt after reading your posts.

220 horsepower aint beating a L98 dude. You can throw your 100 shot on and STILL not make as much power to the wheels as a LS1...stop talking out your ***...

 

Good call, Tony :lala:

 

LS1's are weak? I've seen heads/cam 383 cars go down to minor bolt on LS1's. Right now on the streets the LS1 cars are what everyone is gunning for. They have a reputation, and even the Ford and import camp have respect. From what I've gathered from the local crowd, you don't have $hit until you can beat an LS1 from a roll.

And while I've never seen any LS1, F-body or Y-body run 12s stock, I've witnessed a 01 WS6 run 109mph, absolutely stock. 109mph... weak?

BTW - I'll bet if you actually put your car on chassis dyno your rwhp will be a good bit lower than you claim...

 

lol!................pah-leaze!

 

What do you mean you dotn know what it is? If it says 80-85 305, then you know what it is. Maybe you are just in denial. What heads are on this engine? If all you have is what you listed, I doubt you even have 200 to the wheels. Good luck spanking anything other than a honda. And if they get traction, watch out.

 

I tend to agree, I have gone the same mph but ran 12.9-13.0s all day and I dont have an LS1 destroyer... Actually Im sure most stock to light ones would run next to or beat me.

I agree its driver skill, but then again on the street you still have to drive the car, so the guy getting the 2.3 60's still has to launch the car on the street to win the street race!

I dont know, I just wouldnt consider that an LS1 killer (not being mean, as I have a similarly fast car), more like a good race for an LS1!

And I agree, slims posts make my head hurt as well!

 

Okay, so maybe I went a bit far by saying ls1 killer, but I have beaten just about everyone i've run into on the streets. That same night at the track I got wooped by a 02 WS6 spraying a 175-200 shot on slicks running 12.2. I did woop on a 00 SS that same run I got the 13.7. The track in my town sucks, they don't prep the pavement at all and everyone spins. Guy in the SS was also on street tires. Once again, I did most of my fun on the street but im starting to love the track a lot more . Its fun hitting 100+ legally.

 

I hear that pasky the track here in amarillo sucks too. Even my 78 trans am with all of its 200hp and 2.56 rear end spins here. BUT the new owners are trying to take care of it, whole track will be repaved next year when it opens

 

Glad that the mis-understanding is taken care of, I can't wait to run the 1st with Tristan, gonna be a LT4 vs a Lt1 + CC306. Mua hahaha, i'd laugh my *** off if we both get similar times.

 

blah blah blah bs bs bs.

Keep doing what your doing... maybe soon your 305 will 'feel like a 350'. Bwahhhahahaha.

 

w/e you guys that call bs are bs yourself. your just in denial and refuse to believe it.

i dont know what heads i have because i didnt do any of the work to my car. besides hit a telephone pole with my passanger side mirrow and put a dent on the door. well the heads have work to them. i dont know what except ported when the kid had them off he ported them. i didnt even see this car even though ive been friends with the last owner for like 2 years. until over the summer when i bought it. anyone wanna pay for my dyno sonce im broke? we cam make a bet out of it. who ever is closer doesnt pay. and if you guess over you lose automatically. whos up for it? i say i have 200hp to the wheels. ill get it dynod for christmas and then post the results. but im not going to do this unless some one wants to play?

yeah ls1's are BA but w/e. ill beat it if i get a 100hp shot of n2o. no doubt. belive it or not ill make sure to post pic this summer. so im done posting to this thread. bye

 

Seriously, nobody really cares about your car that's been all hacked up. A 'kid' ported your heads? Trust me, ported heads won't get your 305 (that feels like a 350... bwhahahaha) to 200 hp. Stop talking out of your *** and show a timeslip. You say you're broke but most tracks charge $25 or less to let you run for a day.

Gee, I wonder why you're on probation. You probably make people's head hurt with the in your posts.

 

muhahahaha!

 

I hope your a troll, or really young, because this kind of talk just sounds retarded. Do us a favor and learn how to form a sentence, and get a point across...

I also agree, and sure, you drive to CT and Ill pay for your dyno, and even throw a tune on the car. Then Ill pay for you to run at the track, and youll be very disappointed with 160 rwhp and mid to high 15s, thinking youll go 12s with a 100 shot...