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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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Wrx Sti Impreza

Pretty quick car... some asian kid wanted to race me and I denied em since I was low and gas and didnt want to race... and he kept driving twoards my side..and I floored it and let go quickly (just to intimidate him).. and he floored his shiiit and that **** rocket toook off... how fast are those things?
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If your car is anywhere near stock, much faster than you.
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like flat 13 stock
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like flat 13 stock
Where are you located? I know at Beech Bend in Bowling Green, best Ive ever seen run is a 13.9 bone stock and most run 14.0's-14.2's pretty consistant.

So yeah your LO3 has no chance, youd need binoculars to see his taillights.

Get a few more cubes and some better flowing heads, then run him
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Where are you located? I know at Beech Bend in Bowling Green, best Ive ever seen run is a 13.9 bone stock and most run 14.0's-14.2's pretty consistant.

So yeah your LO3 has no chance, youd need binoculars to see his taillights.

Get a few more cubes and some better flowing heads, then run him
My buddies ran a 13.9 bone stock at a mile above sea level. I think you're thinking of the wrong car, or you have a track above the timber line where you live.
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im in philly i was at the track raced 2 i believe i got the slips somwehre i could give you an exact number they looked stock no way to know though i didnt look under the hood.

the just plain wrx runs low 14's stock i believe

the STI is flat 13's awd 276 86hp i believe = a nice quarter mile time



edit just checked 300hp 300ft lb tq weight 3298

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Where are you located? I know at Beech Bend in Bowling Green, best Ive ever seen run is a 13.9 bone stock and most run 14.0's-14.2's pretty consistant.
Your thinking of the regular WRX, not the WRX STI. STI's run low 13's stock. There is one here in Bowling Green running mid-low 11's IIRC.
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best ive ever seen out of a stock STI was a 13.6 at 101mph. ive HEARD of low 13s out of those cars, but that probably requires a perfect launch and powershifting

best regular WRX run ive seen was 14.4
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looked for a slip this one im positive its a STi the other one i think might be but not sure but here it is

60' 1.773
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Originally posted by tpivette89
best ive ever seen out of a stock STI was a 13.6 at 101mph. ive HEARD of low 13s out of those cars, but that probably requires a perfect launch and powershifting

best regular WRX run ive seen was 14.4
I've seen your best time at Bandimere where I live. I know, no one believed him either.
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Then why arent the more popular? I mean, if it can run a 13 flat stock, has AWD and such, then I would expect their sales to be better. The car i saw run at Beech Bend said WRX STi on the back and had the goofy looking hood on it manual tranny.

Another reason Im not seeing this as a 13 flat car is because of what Ive seen them run on the street. My buddy has a 2002 Z28 M6 runs 12.9's in the 1/4. He raced a WRX STi and from a dig, the STi had about a half car out of the hole and them once the Camaro hooked good, we just started walking away from him and this guy was still racing BTW Maybe they do run that fast but for being almost a second quicker than an SRT-4 Neon, Id expect them to outsell the Neon....cause at the local 1/8th mile track, theres about 1 or 2 WRX STi's on Friday nights whiles theres about 8-10 SRT4 Neons.
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Re: Wrx Sti Impreza

Originally posted by Psycho_91Camaro
Pretty quick car... some asian kid wanted to race me and I denied em since I was low and gas and didnt want to race... and he kept driving twoards my side..and I floored it and let go quickly (just to intimidate him).. and he floored his shiiit and that **** rocket toook off... how fast are those things?
leave those cars alone unless your pushing some mad h/p.I learned the hard way
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An STi lists about 35k msrp. Add tax, title, liscense and it gets more expensive.

Lancer Evo8's are about the same price.

SRT-4's go for about 20k msrp. MUCH cheaper. And the insurance might be cheaper too, but I've never looked into that.

Not many kids can afford a 35k car unless daddy buys it. When 4th gens were still being made I didn't know anyone my age with a Z28, SS, WS6, or Firehawk. But SRT-4s are well within the budget of most full time high school students, especially when you get them used.
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theres lots of wrx sti's and regular wrx's at atco in south nj. some evo's too. of all the nights ive gone, ive never seen one break out of the 14s stock. i assume because theyre relatively new and the kids dont want to break them (yea theyre probably no older than 20 the kids driving them).
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I've seen your best time at Bandimere where I live. I know, no one believed him either.
you said 13.9 at 97 for your buddies STI at your altitude right? doing the conversion factor for boosted cars gets you a 13.4 at 102... not to far off from the best ive seen at my sea level track. so i have no problem believing that time

the bottom 13s you hear of on the internet are few and far between (just like high 12s out of a stock LS1 fbody) because 1) you have to be a VERY skilled driver, and 2) you also have to drive it like you hate it, which most owners of a $35k car arent willing to do

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Saw one at Etown go 13.2 @ 101 the day I was there running 12.6s @ 106 (it was a little warm). I dont know if it was all stock but looked and sounded it, and this was about a year ago!
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Originally posted by tpivette89
you said 13.9 at 97 for your buddies STI at your altitude right? doing the conversion factor for boosted cars gets you a 13.4 at 102... not to far off from the best ive seen at my sea level track. so i have no problem believing that time

the bottom 13s you hear of on the internet are few and far between (just like high 12s out of a stock LS1 fbody) because 1) you have to be a VERY skilled driver, and 2) you also have to drive it like you hate it, which most owners of a $35k car arent willing to do
Agreed.

This was the same driver that got a 14.9 out of a stock Integra GSR at my track a few years ago.
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This was the same driver that got a 14.9 out of a stock Integra GSR at my track a few years ago
14.9... at altitude? you realize thats a 13.9 at sea level! ive always heard GSRs had about 170/180hp and were good for low 15s (at sea level)... but somehow your buddy ran a full second faster? how is that possible?

if that isnt a typo, then you need to get that guy into some of those C5s at your track so they can finally crack 13s!

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I'm pretty sure that was the time. It's a lot harder to get good times out of a Honda than most people understand. Let me check last years E/T list for our site, I remember one kid was running 15.1's all season and was dying to run a 14.9. I'll check just to make sure the times are correct and I'm not a second off.

Oops, I was wrong, this is that kids best time from last season in his bone stock GSR.

oMekone / 1995 Acura Integra GS-R / N/A Stock / 16.023@88.41 / 2.410 / bandimere

So my buddy must have only been getting 15.8's and 15.9's out of that GSR a few years ago. It's still the fastest time for a GSR I've ever heard of at this alititude. This makes more sense, because no stock GSR is touching 13's. lol

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Originally posted by IROCZ28dan
theres lots of wrx sti's and regular wrx's at atco in south nj. some evo's too. of all the nights ive gone, ive never seen one break out of the 14s stock. i assume because theyre relatively new and the kids dont want to break them (yea theyre probably no older than 20 the kids driving them).
the one i raced at atco ran the above time beat my *** lol
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yeah, STI's are pretty quick, trap anywhere from 101-105 as i seen from the guys on WRXfanatics

ET's usually go 13.0-13.3's if driven well. average guys hit 13.3-13.5's
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I'm pretty sure that was the time. It's a lot harder to get good times out of a Honda than most people understand. Let me check last years E/T list for our site, I remember one kid was running 15.1's all season and was dying to run a 14.9. I'll check just to make sure the times are correct and I'm not a second off.
Is a GSR what is in a Type R integra?? If not then what do Type Rs run??
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Is a GSR what is in a Type R integra?? If not then what do Type Rs run??
No, a Type R motor is what a Type R has. I think Type R's can be like .3-.5 seconds faster if I remember correctly. The difference is more in the handling though than the power. 170hp compared to 195hp.
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So my buddy must have only been getting 15.8's and 15.9's out of that GSR a few years ago. It's still the fastest time for a GSR I've ever heard of at this alititude. This makes more sense, because no stock GSR is touching 13's. lol
i thought that was a bit off, 15.9 sounds much better
Is a GSR what is in a Type R integra?? If not then what do Type Rs run??
Integra GSRs are typically low 15 sec cars, while Type Rs crack 14s
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Just went on one of those wrx forums and one of em posted this

Tonight was my first Trans Am kill since my new setup. And it just so happens to be a Firehawk .

So im crusing and i see this Trans am in the distance...i get closer its a Firehawk...so im like well chit. We pull up to the light...i get about 1 car lead on him but nothing happens...so im cursing @ 40mph in 2nd gear and it BLOWS past me...so im like well chit. Hes about a 1/8 mile up ahead so im crusing in 4th gear trying to catch him. Im doing about 60mph when i get next to him, and he punches it...im still in 4th and i lay into it..Walked him like 6-7 cars if not more and i was STILL pullin on him.

He gets ahead of me and pulls off the road...so i pull up next to him, hes all like, dam your car is fast man, i was like yeah 4bangin and lovin it! So we shoot the chit for about 2 mins or so then he drives off ahead of me...im right behind him. He pulls into traffic going back the way we came...and im right on his azz...as soon as he crossed the Turning lane he punches it...and so do i...i get into the right lane...im in 2nd already im gaining on him hard...i hit 3rd i pass him like half a car...and i hit 4th...Bye Bye! I smoked him from a roll and he was in FRONT of me. Oh man it was great.

So we stop and talk one more time. He says he has exhaust, intake and a program. Im like...wow I got a 2.0 and a tiny turbo. We shoot the chit for about 20 mins and im gone. Was fun, and i would hate to see what i would do to him if we really raced from a dig, cuz if im pulling that many cars from a roll...dig = wned:


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yea. alright.


a turbo can't pull you out of the hole if you've got limited torque to begin with right?


i think that guy was bs-ing big time. on top of that, if he went from a dig, the firehawk would be ahead for a little while i'd think. then again i dont know what rpm the turbo spools at to get max boost.
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Originally posted by IROCZ28dan
yea. alright.


a turbo can't pull you out of the hole if you've got limited torque to begin with right?


i think that guy was bs-ing big time. on top of that, if he went from a dig, the firehawk would be ahead for a little while i'd think. then again i dont know what rpm the turbo spools at to get max boost.
Wrong, he's got AWD. This guy was a tool though, couldn't you have found a better kills story than that? That wasn't even an STi by the way, the regular WRX has the 2.0 motor.
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yeah that story was 100% bull. unless the WRX had some good mods, no way its gonna take a Firehawk from a punch
a turbo can't pull you out of the hole if you've got limited torque to begin with right?
apparently youve never seen a Grand National launch
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Just went on one of those wrx forums and one of em posted this
i call bull on that story lol either he was racing a formula and cant read or hes just lying Sti's aint that great up top since its awd out the hole they are amazing though
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i call bull on that story lol either he was racing a formula and cant read or hes just lying Sti's aint that great up top since its awd out the hole they are amazing though
Everyone says that because a car is AWD they can't have top end, but there are a lot of people that will end up sorely disappointed when they lose to one from a roll.

In fact, if there is any reason that a car doesn't have good top end, it's because of where its powerband lies, not it's drive train.

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In fact, if there is any reason that a car doesn't have good top end, it's because of where its powerband lies, not it's drive train
this is mostly true, but AWD does have alot more parasitic loss when at speed that a RWD or FWD car. look a the difference in acceleration between a GST and a GSX Eclipse at freeway speeds. the FWD car will clearly have the advantage over its AWD sibling (as long as both cars are similarly modded)

but on the same note, to say any WRX sucks from a roll cause its AWD is retarded. MPH is usually a good measure of how a car will perform from a punch. if a modded WRX is trapping (for example) 110 or so, its gonna be pretty impressive from highway speeds... AWD or not
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apparently youve never seen a Grand National launch
oh no, i have, but a GN is a lot differant than a WRX id say. i suppose it depends a lot on the RPM at launch though too.

most of the wrx's ive ever seen, even one i raced at the track...i could hang with just fine out of the whole...then they completely destroy me after that (stock 305 tpi/2.73s). i think a firehawk would get a nose on em at least from a dig and make the wrx work. i suppose it depends on the year of the firehawk as well...didnt thye make LT1 firehawks? if the thing was stock it probably ran what...a 13.7 at best?
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Cars don't have top end that are AWD for one reason, weight. That can be over come with power obviously, or NO LS1 would have any top end either.
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The faster you go the more AWD slows you down. However, the advantages of AWD far outweigh the drivetrain losses seen at high speeds. Traction, stability, and transistion control are all gained at the expense of slower acceleration at speed. All cars would be faster with an improved driveline effeciency. That is one of the best ways to make your car faster and it is no suprise to anyone. You won't necessarily see this quantified at the track though because AWD cars make great ET's on their first 150 feet down the track with the advantages that AWD gives them.
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oh no, i have, but a GN is a lot differant than a WRX id say
not the way you put it, in saying a turbo cant pull you out of the hole if you have limited torque to begin with. my point was that a N/A 3.8 back in the early eighties didnt have much torque (as compared to a V8). but add a small, low rpm range turbo and whamo! now you have boatloads of torque
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Originally posted by IROCZ28dan
theres lots of wrx sti's and regular wrx's at atco in south nj. some evo's too. of all the nights ive gone, ive never seen one break out of the 14s stock. i assume because theyre relatively new and the kids dont want to break them (yea theyre probably no older than 20 the kids driving them).
Then you must go on bad nights.

My buddy has pulled a 13.4 out of his STi 2 weeks after he rolled it off the dealer's lot(he still can't drive that car 100% yet). There are two EVO's DEEP in the 11's that run at Atco as well.
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Are you saying that AWD rally vehicles have slow acceleration?
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Are you saying that AWD rally vehicles have slow acceleration?
They are saying at high speeds from a roll.
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Originally posted by Psycho_91Camaro
Are you saying that AWD rally vehicles have slow acceleration?
If traction is not an issue the car with the most effiecnet drivetrain will be the fastest. Any AWD car would be faster if it were 2wd. However, since traction is not garanteeed you have AWD for better control and stabilty. That is the point of it. You sacrifice potential acceleration for all the other gains AWD has to offer.

That is why you see vehicles with part time AWD. That is to improve the driveline efficieny when traction is not compromised.
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I haven't been able to figure out how to launch with boost with my TTA, but it's bone-stock and all of that. Once boost is up, the car just leaps forward. The first ten feet or so isn't much to look at, but after that, it's BOOST time.
Make sure your brakes are in good order. Check for any small vacumn leaks.
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that sorry is NOT bullsh!t.... i am on that forum and that guy has some good mods. firehawks are high 12's at best and his car is definately abit quicker than that!

he's stage 3 VF-22 turbo with up/down pipes and with the V6 STI RA gearset... thing pulls a ton better than a stock STI. his car is very low 12's if not 11's yet

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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
that sorry is NOT bullsh!t.... i am on that forum and that guy has some good mods. firehawks are high 12's at best and his car is definately abit quicker than that!

he's stage 3 VF-22 turbo with up/down pipes and with the V6 STI RA gearset... thing pulls a ton better than a stock STI. his car is very low 12's if not 11's yet

Well tell him to stop sounding like such a wanna be punkass when he writes stories.
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Im like...wow I got a 2.0 and a tiny turbo
this sentence lifted from that post wouldnt make you think his car was anything but stock. you certainly wouldnt guess he was sporting any of the mods you mentioned from the way he told the story

i hate people like that. the guy in the Hawk was cool enough to pull over and talk to the dude, and reveal what he had so his opponent knew what he had beaten. while the WRX owner basically treated his opponent like his car was garbage "you got a LS1 with boltons? wow, all i got is a 2.0 and a tiny turbo and i killed you"

what a punk

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Originally posted by tpivette89
this sentence lifted from that post wouldnt make you think his car was anything but stock. you certainly wouldnt guess he was sporting any of the mods you mentioned from the way he told the story

i hate people like that. the guy in the Hawk was cool enough to pull over and talk to the dude, and reveal what he had so his opponent knew what he had beaten. while the WRX owner basically treated his opponent like his car was garbage "you got a LS1 with boltons? wow, all i got is a 2.0 and a tiny turbo and i killed you"

what a punk

I find it hard to belive that a 2.0 4 cylinder vehicle can defeat a ls1 f-body....
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I find it hard to belive that a 2.0 4 cylinder vehicle can defeat a ls1 f-body....
Why?
Old May 3, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by Psycho_91Camaro.I find it hard to belive that a 2.0 4 cylinder vehicle can defeat a ls1 f-body..
Happens all of the time here at Raceway Park. In fact, it's gotten to the point that now it's expected.
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I find it hard to belive that a 2.0 4 cylinder vehicle can defeat a ls1 f-body....
In this day and age, plenty of times this happens!
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Originally posted by Psycho_91Camaro
I find it hard to belive that a 2.0 4 cylinder vehicle can defeat a ls1 f-body....
I used to do it all the time at the track. You've got a lot to learn I guess.

EDIT: And my car was a 1.8.

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