My friend owns a 69 Nova the specs are:

377 ci
11.1 compression
850 carb
Dart heads out of box
over .600 lift cam
high rise intake
9 inch rear with 4.30 gears or lower I think
no interior
safe to say 500+HP

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91 or 92 camaro the guy said he had a 406 sbc in it thats all I know. When I looked at this car though all I could say was WOW! It looked like a show room car it had the prettiest sky blue color I've ever seen. Full interior it looked like it was custom. Kick *** sound system in back. Looked too clean to be a street race car.

The race was suppose to be motor vs motor both cars were checked for Nos the guy in the camaro showed my friend a unhooked line. They raced twice for money. On the first race a little less than a 1/4 mile the camaro was in front and my friends nova slowly came back on him but lost by less than a fender. Everybody was like oh Hell NO! The guy that own the camaro started talking sh*t about my friend nova saying that it ain't all that. Then the next thing I know the next race was going to be a little longer and for more money!

Well the next race looked to me like it was a half mile and my friend told me that he got a 2 car jump on him from the start. Then he said mid way through the race he saw the camaro go into warp speed and passed him. When I saw them come through the camaro was 3 to 4 cars infront! They couldn't prove that he was running NOS so my buddy lost a lot of money that night. I'm glad I was just there to watch. I really do think he got pimped.

 

It's been a while since I've read a well written, ligitimate, genuine racing post that didn't just want to put down imports or try and persuade the entire thirdgen webiste of some obviously made-up victory.

Whew.

That sounds pretty exciting. Both of those automobiles seem like serious machines and must have given quite a show.

Though, I have a question: Does anyone know why, if the camaro was proven to not have used nitrous, it managed to gain so much ground on the Nova in the second race?


Either way, wish I could have watched too.

 

For all we know the unhooked line could have been his windshield washer bottle.

It's easy to hide another shot of spray either way...

 

Nitrous under the manifold in the lifter valley is really hard to spot, you really need to check the rear china wall of the motor for lines sneaking in the back of the block, sometimes they go right inside the bellhousing of the transmission. Also bottles can be hidden inside the "Nice" stereo such as the Subwoofer box. If it is a wet system, trace out the fuel system. People can be real clever at times. Is your buddies car already set up for nitro? I think one strategy to eliminate that problem is to let both cars use the spray. Run what ever you got kind of thing.

 

Also could have been a 454 small block said to be a 406, did you guys check if it was an aftermarket block? He might of sandbagged the first race to hustle him for a second run. Just a few ideas.

 

Yeah, it would NOT be cool if your buddy was hustled. But, I guess it could very well have happened.

 

Sounds to me like he sandbagged the first run.Also,with 4.30 gears your buddy was probably topped out by the 1st 1/4 mile,running any longer could have been a disadvantage to him.

 

oops double post

 

You know he could have very well topped out, it might not have been a half mile but I know it was over a 1/4. I don't know why he started so early. Me I would have keep the race short and simple. Man I tell you I just wish you guys could have seen that thirdgen it was too pretty to be racing. I still think he used Nos though to pick up that distance midway on a 500+hp engine an kept pulling to the end of the race. The first race had to be a setup.

 

Thats a very good point about your friends gears, If this was a half mile race, and you buddy has a th-400/th-350 with those gears then almost any car that has a decent engine and an overdrive transmission would stomp the crap out of your buds car. Did he say he was hitting his rev limiter for a while in the race at top gear.

 

I was actually thinking about that on the way up to school this morning. If he took the camaro on the quarter mile and has 500+ HP, then he could certainly be running 11's @ 120ish? So how much more could gears that high get you? He certainly may have just leveled off. If the guy in the camaro knew his gears and saw that already his camaro wasnt too far behind the Nova, he may have proposed the second, longer match, on the pretty secure possibility that he could gain the ground when the Nova reached its limit. It might have been more of a good learning experience for your buddy, and a good call for the camaro guy, rather than a sketchy hustle, hopefuly.

 

I'm going to have to ask him if he hit his rev limiter, I would say no because he didn't say it was a problem.

 

He got hustled, plain and simple. Happens up here all the time.

 

yep, i would say sandbaggin on the first run to sucker in another race for money.

 

If they guy simply sandbagged the first race, and didnt necessarily use nitrous to hustle this guy's buddy, then that would have had to have been a SERIOUS freaking camaro (If the nova truly was what it was alledged to be).

 

Sounds like an awesome race i wish i was there to witness.

 

If you beat some guy in a race, or if he just barely wins by a few inches or a fender with you gaining, and then he wants to race again for money, BEWARE! You about to be a sucker.

Think about it. If you beat somebody who was gaining fast, would you then offer to race the guy further for more money?