Neon vs 305

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Mar 26, 2006 | 01:23 AM
  #1  
I own an 89 firebird 305 tbi auto and i know all secrets to race with an such. Some ****** has a high 90's neon covered in **** and has a stock SOHC motor with a dual exhaust and 5 speed. If i ran this little **** i think i could take his single cam piece. dont you think so?

EDITED for language
Mar 26, 2006 | 01:33 AM
  #2  
lol... language man... I saw you on the pike tonight... I think.. I drive a red Berlinetta that sounds like an SK modified lol... American Racing rims too.. I took on an early 90's SOHC neon 5-speed n won with my V6 so Im sure youll take him...
Mar 26, 2006 | 02:01 AM
  #3  
stock single cam i think you'll be ok... its the R/T neons i would worry about. my friend with headers catback, cai, and tune went into the mid high 14's.. thing was gutted out to hell tho LOL
Mar 26, 2006 | 03:18 AM
  #4  
I think your POS could take his POS.
Mar 26, 2006 | 06:17 AM
  #5  
Quote: I think your POS could take his POS.
2nded
Mar 26, 2006 | 12:16 PM
  #6  
lol, dont you hate the minimum 7 character posts.. kinda kills the "+1" and smilie face only posts. LOL

i'm curious.. what secrets do you know to race with?
Mar 26, 2006 | 04:09 PM
  #7  
Quote: lol, dont you hate the minimum 7 character posts.. kinda kills the "+1" and smilie face only posts. LOL

i'm curious.. what secrets do you know to race with?

He knows how to shift an auto and since its an L03 how to put his foot to the floor!
Mar 26, 2006 | 05:55 PM
  #8  
i took a turbo one in my stock Sunfire last time i went to the track, so a N/A one should be no problem

just for the record, i KNOW a turbo neon shouldve raped my Sunfire, but the timeslips dont lie... his 15.9 to my 15.8. that night i raced the worlds worst Neon driver ever
Mar 26, 2006 | 07:23 PM
  #9  
Quote: I own an 89 firebird 305 tbi auto and i know all secrets to race with an such.
haha That made me laugh, and yes you should win
Mar 26, 2006 | 09:38 PM
  #10  
ok my secrets lol which most people know are manually shifting through the gears and before launching holding the brake and revving the engine a little actually does help but really didnt do much against an SHO. ok cool cause i dont like this trash talking kid that me and all my friends hate and i really think he cant touch me hes no pro driver.

o yea 69charger i think i saw your red camaro out there. youll probably be seeing me a lot along with my cousins back z28 and my dads blue IROC
Mar 26, 2006 | 11:22 PM
  #11  
I might not be down there next week cause my new engine might still be goin in but Ill deffinately be there the coming week.. Your car is a light blue Bird with a Trans Am hood right?
Mar 27, 2006 | 01:02 PM
  #12  
Quote: ok my secrets lol which most people know are manually shifting through the gears and before launching holding the brake and revving the engine a little actually does help but really didnt do much against an SHO. ok cool cause i dont like this trash talking kid that me and all my friends hate and i really think he cant touch me hes no pro driver.

o yea 69charger i think i saw your red camaro out there. youll probably be seeing me a lot along with my cousins back z28 and my dads blue IROC
Speaking of SHOs, I raced and whooped a ragged out Taurus SHO with my LO3, although the SHO probably wasn't running right.

As for a Neon, you should never have a problem with any STOCK Neon unless it is an SRT-4. I'm not sure why your friend put a dual exhaust on his Neon but it isn't going to help him. If your Firebird is running halfway decent, you will destroy him.
Mar 27, 2006 | 01:09 PM
  #13  
sweet more connecticut people.
Mar 27, 2006 | 01:22 PM
  #14  
Quote:
Speaking of SHOs, I raced and whooped a ragged out Taurus SHO with my LO3, although the SHO probably wasn't running right.

As for a Neon, you should never have a problem with any STOCK Neon unless it is an SRT-4. I'm not sure why your friend put a dual exhaust on his Neon but it isn't going to help him. If your Firebird is running halfway decent, you will destroy him.
a SHO should beat a L03.. it will give some TPI 305's a run

and late 90's neon R/T's are pretty quick.. with mild mods like full exhaust and weight reduction, and tune, my friend has hit mid 14's with his... stage 2 motor and big turbo, the car did like 13.0 at near 120mph. on good tires and new owner, it did 11.9's i heard
Mar 27, 2006 | 01:33 PM
  #15  
Quote: a SHO should beat a L03.. it will give some TPI 305's a run

and late 90's neon R/T's are pretty quick.. with mild mods like full exhaust and weight reduction, and tune, my friend has hit mid 14's with his... stage 2 motor and big turbo, the car did like 13.0 at near 120mph. on good tires and new owner, it did 11.9's i heard
I know what the SHOs can do. They were quick for a Taurus, except for the V8 ones, which were slower and much more faulty than the V6. I could tell by looking at the car that it wasn't in very good shape and I'm sure it wasn't running like it should've been.

As for a Neon R/T, yes I believe that they can hit 14's with mild mods, but in stock form they still shouldn't beat an LO3. I could be wrong though.
Mar 27, 2006 | 02:05 PM
  #16  
Im probably one of the most known CT guys on the board...

As for the race, I hope you beat him, because if you dont imagine how much he will be talking. Not sure I know the car your talking about (Im not into the whole street racing scene out there, and the guys I know dont have 15 second cars) but sounds like quite the ride (sarcasm).

Talkers will always talk no matter what happens, remember that.
Mar 27, 2006 | 03:09 PM
  #17  
Quote: I think your POS could take his POS.



Anyway make sure you win beacuse a Camaro should NEVER have to loose to a Neon. Too bad those lg4/lo3 cars were such dogs.
Mar 27, 2006 | 03:21 PM
  #18  
Quote:
As for a Neon R/T, yes I believe that they can hit 14's with mild mods, but in stock form they still shouldn't beat an LO3. I could be wrong though
the R/T coupes have 150hp so they are down about 20 on a L03 and more torque but they wiegh in at 2470lbs or so for the 2 doors.. 4doors are just over 2500, nearly 1000lbs lighter.. so they will run good. and headers/exhaust/tune might only pick up 25hp on these cars maybe 30 but thats optimistic. my friend probly had about 2200lb car with nearly 180ish hp on motor with his mods. thats plenty for mid 14's

Quote:
Anyway make sure you win beacuse a Camaro should NEVER have to loose to a Neon. Too bad those lg4/lo3 cars were such dogs
lol well the SRT4 is a neon although those guys dont like to think that their car is a neon. either way its still a quick little skittle. and it will out run stock for stock 95% of all thirdgens and with mild mods will take on most any gen camaro save for the old SS427 copo cars back in the day.
and i heard the next srt4 will be 300hp so look out
Mar 27, 2006 | 03:43 PM
  #19  
Quote: lol well the SRT4 is a neon although those guys dont like to think that their car is a neon.
I never think of the SRT4 as a neon but it is. The only stock third gen that would stand a chance would be the tta.
Mar 27, 2006 | 04:09 PM
  #20  
yea well my car is the light blue one with the trans am hood an ground effects. If you saw me my car was full and maybe if you passed you heard some bumpin.

If youve been to the pike you may have seen this neon it sticks out worse than a sore thumb. Bright yellow with 2 black racing striped and so many lights that it could light a damn baseball field. he doesnt have the car tuned and no serious mods only a gay dual exhaust and prob intake. its not an r/t and i think its 2 door.

hopefully one night i kick his cars *** so i can laugh at him and just make him because hes made me and my girl pissed talking **** about us so....its on

the sho was a low 90s and it was the 3.0 v-6 with a 5 speed. That thing was fast 3rd gens even the L98 would have a tough time with this one. Kid knew how to drive and he beats 01 area 4.6 stangs with 5 speeds. if i find our video of the race ill post it up. it was sad seeing a highway between us.
Mar 27, 2006 | 09:03 PM
  #21  
Quote: yea well my car is the light blue one with the trans am hood an ground effects. If you saw me my car was full and maybe if you passed you heard some bumpin.

If youve been to the pike you may have seen this neon it sticks out worse than a sore thumb. Bright yellow with 2 black racing striped and so many lights that it could light a damn baseball field. he doesnt have the car tuned and no serious mods only a gay dual exhaust and prob intake. its not an r/t and i think its 2 door.

hopefully one night i kick his cars *** so i can laugh at him and just make him because hes made me and my girl pissed talking **** about us so....its on

the sho was a low 90s and it was the 3.0 v-6 with a 5 speed. That thing was fast 3rd gens even the L98 would have a tough time with this one. Kid knew how to drive and he beats 01 area 4.6 stangs with 5 speeds. if i find our video of the race ill post it up. it was sad seeing a highway between us.

If the SHO is green it might be the one that has spray. My friend almost faught that kid.

Well I havent seen either of your cars (havent noticed them at least) but good luck!
Mar 27, 2006 | 09:15 PM
  #22  
no this kids car is nasty its a silver SHO kids name is nick usually at wendys or taco bell. Hangs out with a fast GTP and a fast STI. kids got new surprise this year so if he wants to race dont go for it.

btw the video got taken down sorry.
Mar 27, 2006 | 09:16 PM
  #23  
I didn't know Connecticut was such a hot spot for open road racing...

...must be due to all the high horsepower neons out there!!!
Mar 27, 2006 | 09:16 PM
  #24  
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Mar 27, 2006 | 09:21 PM
  #25  
This just in:

14.06 is NOT FAST!!!!!

If you are comparing your camaro to a taurus SHO or even a 230hp Grand Prix GTP, do the camaro image a favor and stop talking trash about street racing.

P.S. Almost any car can run nitrous, if your not fast WITHOUT it, you'll never be fast WITH it.
Mar 27, 2006 | 10:04 PM
  #26  
Quote: no this kids car is nasty its a silver SHO kids name is nick usually at wendys or taco bell. Hangs out with a fast GTP and a fast STI. kids got new surprise this year so if he wants to race dont go for it.

btw the video got taken down sorry.
Oh dont worry, I dont street race these people, and unless he is running mid 12s, I dont think hed take me anyway.

And CT actually is a good place for street racing, but not 14 second cars. We have a good amount of 8-10 second cars that come out and play in the summer time. I personally know a few cars pushing 800-10000 hp that go out on a weekly basis looking for runs, but also know guys with 15 second cars out looking for races... its hard to get good competition.
Mar 28, 2006 | 01:22 AM
  #27  
seems like new england in general actually has a pretty good street racing scene. i got buddies in Jersey and on the island...everyone street races up there...and if you can't run mid 8's, don't bring your stuff out...

www.smallblockposse.com is the guys i hang with whenever i'm in the area (which is almost never nowadays)
Mar 28, 2006 | 07:26 PM
  #28  
Quote: seems like new england in general actually has a pretty good street racing scene. i got buddies in Jersey and on the island...everyone street races up there...and if you can't run mid 8's, don't bring your stuff out...

www.smallblockposse.com is the guys i hang with whenever i'm in the area (which is almost never nowadays)

Must be humbling. I don't even fantasize about having an 8 second car. Mid to low tens is as far as I'll let myself go.
Mar 28, 2006 | 08:54 PM
  #29  
Geeze and I think mid 12's is fast
Mar 28, 2006 | 09:19 PM
  #30  
yea weve got fast cars up here all different kinds. a lot of people around here though love their dsms.

sorry about all the posts my internet really sucks so sorry
Mar 28, 2006 | 09:19 PM
  #31  
yea i know 14 isnt fast but im saying the car is stock and around here near where i live is a damn fast car for being STOCK. He now though put in a 3.2 and i dont know if its modded cause im not friends with him anymore.

Also i dont own a camaro i have a FIREBIRD my dad and cousin have the camaros.

Yea we got some quick cars out here such as a 1000hp turbo ls1, most dsms out here are fast, few skittles that are quick, muscle, foreign , you name it we got it its really a big scene on the pike here.

I found the video btw, yes i did drive all the way to mexico to race so i didnt do it illegally. http://media.putfile.com/gtp at the end of the video yea thats me getting raped real hard.
Mar 28, 2006 | 11:02 PM
  #32  
Stuff like this makes me want to soup up my Tempo
Mar 29, 2006 | 06:39 AM
  #33  
Quote: I think your POS could take his POS.
I can't believe you haven't been banned yet
Mar 29, 2006 | 10:53 AM
  #34  
Quote: I can't believe you haven't been banned yet

For telling the truth? You can't get banned for that. My account was deleted once, I actually joined in '04, but that was an accident.
Mar 29, 2006 | 10:55 AM
  #35  
He was just stating his opinion. Whats wrong with that?
Mar 29, 2006 | 11:10 AM
  #36  
Plus it was fact.
Mar 29, 2006 | 01:35 PM
  #37  
lol stus replies always crack me up
Mar 29, 2006 | 05:55 PM
  #38  
Quote: I can't believe you haven't been banned yet
I cant believe you have 191 posts and I have never heard of you or seen your name post here!

Stu has his moments (I personally love them but I can see how a thirdgen owner wouldnt) but always shares useful info when he knows, which is a LOT more than can be said for some members...

I know the kid with the "1000 hp" LS1, and dont worry its not 1000hp. Its close, but not 1000. He actually lives in my town (didnt know that until recently) and is all about getting people to street race. After the last FFW I was on the pike, tired from the long weekend racing, and he wouldnt stop hounding me to race a Saturn. My friend tried his hardest to get me to race for $500, but I am not into that sort of thing. I have my pride and like it that way!
Mar 29, 2006 | 07:18 PM
  #39  
Stock neon you'll be fine, SRT-4 no chance. As for those SHO's they are pretty quick my buddy has one, not quite as fast as my car when i had the 305 in there, but defintaly give me run for my money. I think he can a 14.9 bone stock, once they hit 4k they start movin.
Mar 29, 2006 | 08:20 PM
  #40  
Quote: I cant believe you have 191 posts and I have never heard of you or seen your name post here!

Stu has his moments (I personally love them but I can see how a thirdgen owner wouldnt) but always shares useful info when he knows, which is a LOT more than can be said for some members...

I know the kid with the "1000 hp" LS1, and dont worry its not 1000hp. Its close, but not 1000. He actually lives in my town (didnt know that until recently) and is all about getting people to street race. After the last FFW I was on the pike, tired from the long weekend racing, and he wouldnt stop hounding me to race a Saturn. My friend tried his hardest to get me to race for $500, but I am not into that sort of thing. I have my pride and like it that way!

I usually just lurk, if I reply to something, that'd indicate advice or opinion. And with what I know about cars, I just sit back and read. I won't pretend to know things I don't know.

Stu has said some funny things from I've read, can't say I agree with a lot of the stuff he says, but hey, everyone thinks differently.

Remember, I lurk, I don't reply. Unlike most 17 year olds, I won't say anything unless I know I'm right.
Mar 29, 2006 | 09:11 PM
  #41  
yea the kid with the camaro his name is Alfred ive met him once and his friend dannie the chick with the talon i believe her car is pretty fast too. not as fast but damn it can move.
Mar 29, 2006 | 11:26 PM
  #42  
o yea another quick question. Would a 00 passat 1.8t with tiptronic whoop the neons *** too? if it would itd be too funny.
Mar 30, 2006 | 12:26 AM
  #43  
I would think the Passat would eat the Neon alive.
Mar 30, 2006 | 08:45 PM
  #44  
sweet i need to make this kid suffer in embarassment. ok would spraying the intercooler only with co2 work if i did it right before the race because i cant really ghetto rig a set up on that even though i could but itd take too long.
Mar 31, 2006 | 06:57 PM
  #45  
Quote: sweet i need to make this kid suffer in embarassment. ok would spraying the intercooler only with co2 work if i did it right before the race because i cant really ghetto rig a set up on that even though i could but itd take too long.
No, what you do is quit wasting your time trying to show up a neon. Its not that hard unless its an r/t or srt-4. But either way you still driving a 305. You're at a disadvantage to a lot of cars yourself.
Mar 31, 2006 | 07:14 PM
  #46  
Quote: I think your POS could take his POS.
A Neon is build quality POS with poor power/longevity, etc.

A L03 3rd gen is just slow, not neccesarily a POS.

A Cavalier vs. Neon or Escort vs. Neon thread would more properly quantify your statement. But thankfully, those don't exist on these boards. Instead, we get "weak V8 vs. Neon", LOL.
Mar 31, 2006 | 11:42 PM
  #47  
well sorry i just dont want to end up looking like a jackass to this kid. then i came up with the idea to have my girls car and her race him in her passat to embarrass him even more if she will be able to win i now i remember its an sxt. i know my car i slow i accept it. i do know what fast is even though i may not own it myself.
Apr 1, 2006 | 11:02 PM
  #48  
ok i owned the neon and make him very angry. why do people have to hate like that kid was so mad that he tailgated me and high beamed me, on my way home so i had to go 100 down side streets. ********. thats why i dislike the kid and now i have faith in the passat beating his ****box american mistake car.

EDITED for language.
Apr 1, 2006 | 11:37 PM
  #49  
im glad u got out and raced him. it wasn't worth worrying over, you were gonna beat him unless you missed every gear or u accidently hit the brake instead of the gas for a mile. sore losers are an embarresment, but to get those high beams out (and possibly all his lights) really quick is let him get on ur ***, and do a brake check. See if he can hit his breaks as quick as he can that gas pedal.
Apr 2, 2006 | 12:05 AM
  #50  
Quote: A Neon is build quality POS with poor power/longevity, etc.

A L03 3rd gen is just slow, not neccesarily a POS.

A Cavalier vs. Neon or Escort vs. Neon thread would more properly quantify your statement. But thankfully, those don't exist on these boards. Instead, we get "weak V8 vs. Neon", LOL.
Ummm... yes both cars in the grand scheme of things are POSs. A beat old 80s Fbody is still a POS as are most abused 80s cars. Unless the car is a low mileage well cared for or restored gem, its most likely a POS. My car is a POS (rattles, creaks, pollutes, burns some oil etc...) but I am in the process of making it a nice POS!

And doing 100 in neigborhoods, especially knowing you live near me. How about we stop that huh. Just a few weeks ago some kids in Meriden crashed driving fast. One kid died and an innocent woman lost her legs. Sucks when things like this happen to make dumbass kids learn a lesson.