"To Juice or not to Juice, that is the question"
In my town (pop. 11000) fast imports are rare. I noticed a newer Evo the other night cruising around. He got behind me and followed a bit, but when i pulled into a gas station he kept going. I saw him tonight and he threw some revs while he passed in opposite directions. It looks like an Evo VIII (2004-2005)??? Nice little car, but sounded quiet except for a loud BOV. I know the mags say these things go low 13's stock, but i witnessed one at the track only pulling 14.1's. The kid driving it looked young, so im wondering if he could launch it like a man.. Isn't the real advantage of these AWD's the hole shot? It cost's $$ to fill my bottle and i don't wanna fill it until i go to the track in June.. In my little town i have some street cred, and i don't wanna get smoked because my bottle isn't full. I will never turn down a race. Should i risk it, or just fill the bottle up? Im sure stu can tell me what these things should run with a competent driver... Im thinking it should be closeif i go all motor.....

 

I'd say bottle.
You don't know what he may have done to it.

 

Have the bottle just incase. If its stock, it will be close from a dig, with you reeling him in. Stock they are supost to 60' 1.5-1.6 with everything they came with from the dealer, but AWDs are VERY hard to launch correctly. If he actually races often, he might have it down. If its a kid that cant really drive the car, you will probly have him all the way N/A. If he knows how to drive it, and has some stuff done then youll need to bottle. He coulda turned up the boost and retuned it, putting it right where you are on the bottle.

 

I have a friend with an Evo and he has taken it to the strip regularly, once he got used to launching the AWD stock he was running 13.1-13.4 consistantly. Until he got used to it though his numbers we around mid 14's. Now he has modified it and not all that crazy he is in the 12's. Gotta say that car is pretty quick for mostly stock.

 

bottle, definately.

 

Fill 'er up!


You don't know what he has done to that car. You don't know if he can drive, etc.

At my altitude they manage mid 14's with the average driver, but I bet a great driver could click off low 14's. Good luck.



I really like those cars and think about buying one sometimes because they are so much easier and cheaper to mod than the STis.

 

Evos are nasty from a dig man, your best bet is to race from a roll and spray him! You'll win easily if he isn't heavily modded.

 

yeah, im gonna fill it up, im better safe than sorry.. besides, why smoke him by a fender when i can smoke him by 5 or 6 car lengths. I think it cost about $10 for every race i spray. Bottle cost $50 to fill and i get at least 5 races before pressure starts falling..
I do like the Evo. Its ugly in a way of being cool, if that makes sense. Do they have a similar motor as the early 90's Talons? My buddies 92 TSI runs a 12.80 on 100 octane with 1.6 60'.... He spanked me once.

I will get video and post it when i race the evil evo

 

Same motor. It's the 4g63-t motor. It's basically the 350 of Mitsubishi.

 

i say leave ur bottle on just to play it safe. Depends on the extent of his mods, from the sounds of it, the evo's seems to be fairly stock. At the dragstrip i've seen evo's running between 14.3 for being stock to low 12's high 11's for being modded. by looking at ur 1/4 mile i believe u gonna own him if the evo is stock or mildly modded. My friend has a stage 1 srt-4 neon and he beats modded evo's quite frequently. U trap pretty much the same as a stage 1 srt-4 so i believe its gonna be close w/o bottle but w/bottle u gonna own him

 

Hmmmmm.....

So the question is, what is the big block 572 of Mitsubishi?

 

Probably just a bored out one.

I honestly can't think of any other Mitsubishi motors.


No, wait, yes I can. The 3000GT V6 Twin Turbo motor is pretty stout I think.

 

those 3000gts vr4 are quick but heavy as hell. they make a nice 300 hp stock with their DOHC 3.0 V-6. too bad theyre known for electrical problems and thats why i own a 3rd gen.

 

Why don't you just race him with and without the bottle?

"In my little town i have some street cred" Beat him without the bottle then you'll have real cred!

 

Then race him a third time with just the spray and no motor.

 

Now that's a race I'd like to see.

 

ME TOO!

 

Yeah i will spray first just to see where he is at. then i will give him a chance all motor...
Its raining up here right now, i doubt ill race him tonight... My buddies AWD TSi launches almost as good on wet pavement compared to dry... I saw an 04 Roush stang in town yestersay.. i wonder what he's packing

 

Fudge.

 

 

Must not be making very much power...
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Just a funny line...

 

yeah, after i saw it quoted i thought the same thing... Around here any thing under 13 flat is rare.. im kinda like a big fish in a small pond. I would get owned in a bigger city.
There are about 10 fox-bodys around here all runing low to mid 14's, I got the only 3rd gen in town thats not a beater besides a few stock Irocs. Only a few LS1's, all are driven by older guys that don't race. We got a good selection of classic muscle, but most are built for cruising.
i live my life a 1/4 mile at a time.... lol.... quote that

 

I've heard Janesville is supposed to have a decent street scene. Do you ever make it over there?

 

Yeah, Janesville does have a good cruising scene, I go there a few times a summer. They got a good street (Milton Ave.) with lots of stoplights 1/8 mile apart, very little heat too. Its about an hour drive for me...

 

They don't go with bigger cubes, they go with a bigger turbo.

2QUIK4U, where in WI are you?

 

Im in Monroe. Im about 45 miles south of Madison, 6 miles from the IL border.
The closest track is Byron IL (1 hour), Great lakes is a little under 2 hours away. Im about 90 min. from Tri-state raceway in IA..
My times at Byron are cosistantly .15 better than at union grove. I like the IA track too, lots of traction there.

 

I raced one a few days ago.. very clean looking. When he jumped on it black smoke came out of his exhaust. We were even through first to half of second then I started pulling and actually had to let off to keep from hitting his bumper. I think he was an auto too

 

Just found this.

"Byron Dragway Inc

Nice Small Dragstrip
October 14, 2005 9:35 PM PST

This is your bare bones Dragstrip. The track is not as well kept as the bigger tracks but still very good. Looking down the track, it seems as if it is running downhill the track owners insist it is flat. The time I was there, the staging area wasn't very sticky for good launches but it was near the end of the year. You also can get your time slips at the end of your runs. Price is one of the best in the area and there isn't really any stands so fans must stand and watch. Parking is large but the overall facility is decent. There is also food stands in case you need to get something to eat or drink."


Byron Dragway Inc - Byron, IL - Review by ty w. on Judy's Book


Are you going to Thirdgen fest? It's a three hour drive for you.

 

i raced one in an 03 grand am ram air, i had to spray my 100 shot to stay on his 1/4 panel, but we came to an intersection and he slambbed the brakes and let me get about a foot of air thew the intersectionat about 110mph, so, if we were racing to the stop light, i guess i won. lol

 

I just saw the kid last weekend with his Evo on the side of the road. He was messing with something under the hood. I asked him if he wanted to run and he said he was trying to tune his boost controller since he was running 30 PSI. I asked what it ran stock, and he said 18 PSI..
I don't know much, but i do know 30 PSI is alot of boost. How easy or hard is it to get an EVO to run 30 PSI? I think he was bluffing. He still had an excuse not to race... Stu, whats it take for 30 PSI??

 

Some tunning. Sounds kind of fishy, he should be doing that **** on a dyno. If he's running around on the street trying to get it to 30 psi it might not last long.

 

[QUOTE=2QUIK4U]I just saw the kid last weekend with his Evo on the side of the road. He was messing with something under the hood. I asked him if he wanted to run and he said he was trying to tune his boost controller since he was running 30 PSI. QUOTE]


I would have laughed....real hard.

 

i have always said that nitrous is for ****** that cant make their car go. thats why all those ricers use it.lol. if yer worried about beatin him, build it up until you know you can whip his *** w/o the nos. i have a great admiration for guys that can find ways to have faster cars while keeping it N/A. i find it hard to admire someone who can only win with power adders like nos. i say race him all motor. if you get beat, you get beat. go and build a better car. but if you beat him... SHOVE IT IN HIS FACE!!!!

 

I guarantee more domestic racers have nitrous than imports.

 

Word.

t

 

I can't afford to build a NA motor to run bottem 12's on my budget. Its a drivers race if im racing a stock EVO and i go all motor. The truth is that this kid dodges me or has an excuse every time i ask him to run. Its happened 3 times thus far. When or if it does happen i will post the video proof of my win or loss...

 

4.10's and TPI?

 

they work good at the track, i shift into 4th though. count the shifts on this video
Video - pretty quick 91 ZZZZZ Z28 that is

 

If you run 13.5 all motor you should beat him (assuming you duplicate a 13.5 run). I know they can run faster but 75% of all Evo's/STI cars that I see run are at the 14 flat @ 99mph range.

 

Yea man! Listen to this guy. It's simple, go in the backyard, and pick some money off of the money tree! That nitrous statement alone reeks of ignorance.

 

more domestic cars run nos b/c they have to to compete with all the charged and nitrous imports that think their tough **** because they have nos. its a quick and "easy"(i guess) way to add power and be able to compete with the imports with nos. most guys that drive imports dont understand that you cant compare an N/A motor to a charged or nitroused motor. they think that their 4 cylinder cars making maybe 200 hp with tons of boost is somehow comparable or better than a domestics v8 with at least 210 hp and up all motor just because they can beat you top end(some possibly low end) with the boost.

2QUICK4U, i know how it feels being on a budget, but i would still try to do some upgrades b4 i just threw on a nitrous system and went at it. what have u done to your Z?

IROCThe5.7L, i didnt mean that you should just throw an assload of money into your car and have it all done in one day. i meant that you should take some time and choose the best, most affordable mods you can that will give u the most performance out of your car without breakin your wallet. building a fast car takes know-how and time, not money. my previous statement wasnt ignorant, i just have respect for REAL cars.

 

Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't sure if you were a total moron, or if you just worded your post badly. Now I'm sure that you couldn't be any more stupid.

 

I already threw the N2o system on 7 years ago, and i have filled the bottle 27 times since then. Im almost positive i can beat him with the spray, but i was wondering if i could do it on motor. The Evo runs 13.30 in the magazines. I run a 13.50 on motor.... I just want a good race (w/o getting smoked). I posted this topic to get a feel for what an Evo can run in the real world. Its not about domestic VS. imports, its about fast cars and old *** technology keeping up with new technology. If you want to know what i did to my Z, just check my link in my sig... I have owned this car for 9 years now, and i got the whole build history and track times on page 3 of my cardomain site.

 

i dont know much about evos but with those simple mods and the 4.10 gears i think it will be a pretty close race w/o the spray. with it, im fairly certain that you would smoke him.

 

Agreed. I'm going with moron though.

t

 

LMFAO!

 

Fill up that bottle just in case. Simple as that, especially if your cred is at hand. It only takes a full turboback exhaust and a boost controller for them to hit 12s, assuming the driver knows what he's doing. Judging from the time you ran in the 1320 all motor, this is really a driver's race without the n20. Evo's usually can only make a little more than a handful of launches before the stock clutch goes anyway.

 

i am about 40 min from try-state let me know if your going there i am always up to going to there or cordova

 

I would spray it to the hilt. Evo's make 500 horsepower(to the wheels) stock! LOL, Ur 150 shot will make him look dumber than my mother! Just do it!!! Btw,,,, I loved Ur track video! Awesome footage dude!!! 12.4 @ 112 is insane for a stock block 350!!!

 

like alot of ppl said, i'd keep the bottle in the car.

but stock vs your car without the spray, it would be a DAMN good race. evo's can trap 100-103mph stock well driven in great weather. most i see tho are 98-100. 1.7 60 foots stock too. they can be nasty from the dig.

but if he has any mods, your gonna need the spray