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Old May 17, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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89 L98 Vs 94 GSR Teggy

My modds are in my sig. My friend had a 94 Acura Integra GSR mods are ( Header, 2.5" cat back, Iceman CIA, B&M sort Shifter, 17" rims). I raced him the other day and gave it to him. I had no traction and i shifted into 2nd and kicked my rear sideways and still pulled cars on him, and his car is pretty quick for an ugly green *****. I raced him on a roll ( around 40 or 50 ) so he could downshift on me and i still ate him up. But, he had a $1200 Turbo & intercooler set-up coming in so ill have to do something to keep up with him...
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Old May 17, 2006 | 02:57 AM
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depending on how crazy the $1200 turbo/intercooler setup will be, you should be able to get him from a dig through 1st or 2nd gear... good luck
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Old May 17, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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$1,200 sounds like a quarter of a turbo set-up to me. If it's from SSAC (SS Auto Chrome), make sure to laugh at him for me.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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haha, it wasn't me that said it!
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Old May 17, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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$1,200 sounds like a quarter of a turbo set-up to me. If it's from SSAC (SS Auto Chrome), make sure to laugh at him for me.
Im not too sure on the details but hes is buying it from a guy who had it on a another Honda, its a T3 with custom fuel rails, bigger injectors, big front mount intercooler, other than that im not sure. Hes only going to run around 5-7PSI since its a stock motor with 140K on it. The other guy said his car with the turbo was making 300HP at the wheels. Im hoping that i can keep up with him, ill have to order my headers or re-install the NOS ( lol ).
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Old May 17, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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He can run 10-12 on that motor if he gets a good stand alone fuel management set up. Hondata can be had for like $500, and the AEM system is $1,000, but the AEM is more than he'll need. At the same time, there are a handful of FREE stand alone systems that have nearly the same capabilities that people are familar enough with to tune for him like Turboedit, Chrome, Uberdata, etc.

Also, I always notice people who are just starting to learn about turbo systems mistaking big intercoolers for more power. Intercoolers are just like radiators that cool air for those that don't know. Too big of an intercooler would handicap a smaller system. His is probably fine though.

EDIT: I'd thought I'd add, that you can still have a bad *** setup for only $1,200; especially if it's used. I didn't have much into my system, my most expensive part was my brand new turbo at $485.00. If you go to Homemadeturbo.com you'll see a ton of SUPER cheap junkyard setups made by guys with great fabrication skills that make tons of reliable horsepower. There's guys on there that have made so many turbo setups that they make twin turbo setups for CRX's and stuff (twin turbo on that small of a motor is kind of frivalous) just for the fabrication challenge.

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Old May 17, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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He can run 10-12 on that motor if he gets a good stand alone fuel management set up.

EDIT: I'd thought I'd add, that you can still have a bad *** setup for only $1,200; especially if it's used. I didn't have much into my system, my most expensive part was my brand new turbo at $485.00. If you go to Homemadeturbo.com you'll see a ton of SUPER cheap junkyard setups made by guys with great fabrication skills that make tons of reliable horsepower. There's guys on there that have made so many turbo setups that they make twin turbo setups for CRX's and stuff (twin turbo on that small of a motor is kind of frivalous) just for the fabrication challenge.
10? Really? -12 sure. You can make 600+ hp on a stock block?

Yupp ive been there, cool site
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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12 psi won't make anywhere near 600 hp on a Honda motor. I was running 15 psi on a stock block and making 277 whp. I should have been closer to 300, but there was some stuff with my set-up.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:33 AM
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12 psi won't make anywhere near 600 hp on a Honda motor. I was running 15 psi on a stock block and making 277 whp. I should have been closer to 300, but there was some stuff with my set-up.

Oh that makes waay more sense. I was thinking you were speaking in terms of 1/4 mile times possible on a stock block. Now that i look again i dont know why i was thinking that.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Oh I see, you can run 12's on a stock block.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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I'd thought I'd add, that you can still have a bad *** setup for only $1,200; especially if it's used.
right, there's no new complete turbo/intercooler kits I can think of that are only $1200, but I wasn't going to make an assumption either way. And to add to the site list to check out, Mike at Mike's Home Page did a tt351 in an 80s thunderbird for $600.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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$1,200 sounds like a quarter of a turbo set-up to me. If it's from SSAC (SS Auto Chrome), make sure to laugh at him for me.

SSAC SUCKS!!!!!


I'm buying one part from them only cause I ehard the part is ok. it is their catback. only reason I did buy it is those on rx7club.com seem to say that the exhaust is one of the ONLY thigns worth a damn from that company and the price was the best price I have seen for an exhaust with the rx7. I need one my stock catback is rusted and blown out. other then that general idea is they aren't worth the time or money. and so far trying to get them to answer questions about the exhaust by email just doesn't work. no reply no answer or anything finally get one by the deedee who I assume post the auction items on ebay saying she doesn't know anything other then whats on the site and that the owner is out of town so she can't get any information either
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Yes, for all intents and purposes, SSAC does suck, very hard. I wouldn't even buy an exhaust from them.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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People need not to support them too. All car forums should have warnings not to buy from them. Not only do their products suck(exhaust manifolds are HORRIBLE!) but they put other, better companies out of business(as seen earlier this year in the controversial closing of some popluar turbo parts fabrication company.)
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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sounds like a legit race. GSR teggys can be quick with bolt ons but not fast. L98 should have no probs. however, a GSR with bolt ons in a civic hatch can be a tough match for a L98. cammed GSR's in a gutted hatch will pull pretty good on mild modded L98's. you'd need full bolt ons and a tune to win.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Yes, for all intents and purposes, SSAC does suck, very hard. I wouldn't even buy an exhaust from them.

honestly I don't want to. but I'm a little strapped for cash with some things going on and have already recieved some crap from the local ocifers over my exhaust being rusted. most any other catback out there for the rx7 is 500+. I planned on going and buying the racing beat one as it is considered a very high quality piece but at I think it is 575 or something like that. they are getting no more support from me after thi though. I just hope the exhaust is decent enough like the people on rx7club said it was. find it funny though they are able to sit there and send me 3 invoices for a product that was won on the 9th but can't even answer a few simple questions on the product itself.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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Does anyone have a used one of the brand you really want? Why pay for your exhaust twice?
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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honestly I don't want to. but I'm a little strapped for cash with some things going on and have already recieved some crap from the local ocifers over my exhaust being rusted. most any other catback out there for the rx7 is 500+. I planned on going and buying the racing beat one as it is considered a very high quality piece but at I think it is 575 or something like that. they are getting no more support from me after thi though. I just hope the exhaust is decent enough like the people on rx7club said it was. find it funny though they are able to sit there and send me 3 invoices for a product that was won on the 9th but can't even answer a few simple questions on the product itself
depends on what local shops you have in your area, you can have a custom one welded up for ALOT less than 500+ dollars those catbacks are running you. just chose your muffler and get a quote. i got a shop here that does work for $40 an hour, and he's good enough to do a catback in a few hours.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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Does anyone have a used one of the brand you really want? Why pay for your exhaust twice?

I've tried searching and nobody has one that I was able to see. found the headers that way though used off ebay . I'm going to stick it out with this ssac/motoria thing for now at least though. if anything it would just be me reworking the exhaust to fit the true duals with the muffs that came from the motoria exhaust.


depends on what local shops you have in your area, you can have a custom one welded up for ALOT less than 500+ dollars those catbacks are running you. just chose your muffler and get a quote. i got a shop here that does work for $40 an hour, and he's good enough to do a catback in a few hours.
one place was willing to do $70 a muffler only thing is the mufflers they used where the generic baffled fiberglass packed mufflers. problem with that is the stock baffled mufflers seem to blow/rust out easily with the rotory plus the header and being down 3 cats. hot exhaust temps (around 1700* from what I udnerstand) doesn't do well with that stuff.

oh well if it holds up for a while I'll be happy. and I will post clips of my r<x>icer mobile exhaust
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one place was willing to do $70 a muffler only thing is the mufflers they used where the generic baffled fiberglass packed mufflers. problem with that is the stock baffled mufflers seem to blow/rust out easily with the rotory plus the header and being down 3 cats. hot exhaust temps (around 1700* from what I udnerstand) doesn't do well with that stuff.
true, i would stay away from those fiberglass packed stuff. couldnt you use just any muffler? like a magnaflow straight thru kind or Dynomax Ultraflo round muffler? i dont think they are packed with anything.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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might be able to do that. if I remember right I did look into the dynomax or some sort of catback that started as a primarly domestic muff maker and it was even pricey.

but now that your bringing all this up it's making me wonder if I really could of done better. if nothing else though I will post pictures and sound clips when I get the product. also as a side question how much would you guess it would be to have 4 push in studs removed from my presilencer I have replaced with some more push/screw in studs? the ones on there right now stripped so I am just running a straight pipe back to the mufflers.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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well I got the exhaust. it's not that bad with real nice welds. only one thing I don't care for so far. my drivers side muffler hangs down.


that and they gave me a 3" ID gasket when I need a 2 1/2".

the one thing that shocks me though is when just cruising the straight htrough muffler is quieter then the blown muffler. untill I get on it... then... well... I'll just let you guys hear the clips and pictures when I finish them up.
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