So I'm watching Pinks on the Speed channel right now. They have a 1987 Firebird vs a 1989 Mustang. I've waited so long for a 3rd gen to be on the show, and they finally have one! Anyone else watching?

 

Im watching the Trans Am win cus the mustang blows its motor .

 

yup just turned it on

 

The mustang was a faster car (more/better mods). Then they gave the Trans Am a few lengths. It started winning, then the 'stang cracked the block.

THE T/A WON!

I'm so glad they finally put a 3rd gen Firebird on Pinks!

 

Its a shame the first thirdgen on the show gets its a$$ handed to them by a mustang of the same era. That stang own that bird in everyway. Except durablity!

 

the firebird did pretty going considering that it was built in 2 weeks with parts they had at the shop compared to a car that is (was) raced all the time

 

"does that thing get good gas mileage man?"
anyone know what im talking about who watched the first TA on the show?

 

yeah man i already seen it... and ive got tivo so i can watch it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.... and over and over....lol
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your talking about the civic dude who had no clue how to race and thought that just being loud was going to make him win cause he was young lol....... sad part is i am 18 lol....... but i dont think that way

 

Yes thats the one. He wanted 20 lengths and the TA to not use his nitrous

Even the honda owners on their forums were ashamed that guy represented them with his slow civic and nonability to drive a car. I believe the TA is a member of fbody.com

 

Yea I was ready to punch that guy through the TV... I had to change the channel lol

 

I was hangin out at a bar last night and a friend told me about this episode. Told me the guy in the civic wanted like a half track advantage. What a joke! Too bad I missed this one.

But you gotta give props to the guys who race heads up, even though they're pretty much outgunned. Like the episode of the guy in the Nova vs. the Stingray. Now that was entertaining. The guy in the Nova hooked well but was overpowered by the vette. He was a good sport about the lose aswell.

Too many whiners on that show though.

 

was it a modified at all? Hooray for default wins

 

Actually, that civic was pretty quick, the guy just couldn't drive.
My neighbor was on the support team of the f-body.

 

Thats what the TA driver said too when he took it down the track after he won it. But if you go to the honda forums, they werent that impressed with it.

 

Too a point but the raw power of that TA showed that the civic still wasn't in its class!

 

 

This week on PINKS:

Robert Shields – TX (1969 Chevy Chevelle) vs. Donnie Denton – TX (1986 Chevy Camaro)

Sparks fly and the stakes are high in a classic Texas shoot out. It’s a best three out of five drag race…for pink slips.

WEDNESDAY, August 2nd at 9:30pm ET/PT

 

DONNIE, the owner of PROSTREET MOTORSPORTS raced his daily driven 1986 IROC Z, against a GUTTED, BIG BLOCK 69 Chevelle!

 

Yep, I just watched that one. That was a fast Iroc. Glad to see it win, that 87 t/a upset me though.

 

That was a great episode. I was really proud of Donnie and his IROC.
The thing that blew me away was THAT CAR LOOKS BONE STOCK!!
They lifted the hood on the IROC and I was thinking :Oh no, he's gonna get his butt kicked." Glad I was wrong.
I noticed in the profile it said 535 RWHP with nitrous...impressive.
The IROC left hard, and the only way the Chevelle faster was with both shots of nitrous.

Later,
Boo

 

I saw that too! I was like, holy **** stock dual-snorkel???! But then I figured it had to be something big underneath or he wouldn't have bothered with Pinks.

 

The co hosts even said " sleeper of the century ". It left the line quick, and just kept going, I was impressed. I DVR'd it.

 

I would love to pull up next to a $80,000 Viper and blow it away in a car like that. Don't you know the Viper owner would take his car back and demand a refund lol!!!

You could win a lot of money around here in a car like Donnie's. He definitely represented third geners well.

Boo

 

THIRDGENS - 2
OPPOSITION- 0

Gotta love it.

 

i hate not having the speed channel , i'm glad to hear about the wins though!

 

An both times the thirdgens won by Technical Knockout! Not really something to be proud of. Both times the other car was wayy faster![

QUOTE]The IROC left hard, and the only way the Chevelle faster was with both shots of nitrous.[/QUOTE]

No the Chevelle was faster by a lot. First race was all motor by the Chevelle and one stage Nos by the Iroc. An then you can tell the chevelle left the line bad and then let off at the end just so the Iroc can put more lengths on him.

Second race the chevelle ran 1 stage Nos to the irocs 2 stage. The Chevelle beat him by 4 lengths! An every one said he let off some on that race too!

That Chevelle own that Iroc in every way the driver of that car messed up one race because something on his side was still wet. The last race something broke on the car. Both Thirdgens on Pinks won by LUCK!

The car has a stock hood with carb, no cowl whats so ever. That setup gets air to the carb like a ram air hood a lot better then just the carb by itself.

I bet if you ever got the chance to drive a viper you would know right then that you would never trade it for a thirdgen anything!

 

I would rather pour $80,000 into my thirdgen than drive a Viper. No BS.

 

An once again have you driven a VIPER!

An If I had 80 grand to throw away I would spend about 20 on a 67-69 camaro SS and the rest on a Z06 any year! I damn sure wouldn't put it into a thirdgen. I got about 10 grand into mine.

 

I have driven a viper and I would rather spend the 80k on my thirdgen. :-P

 

I wasn't picking on Vipers....I could have just as easily put "Porsche" or "Vette". Point being, the IROC would beat either. I've seen Vipers at the track hit low 12's and every once in a while high 11's (when they hook up).

My point is, if you saw Donnie's IROC on the street (no matter what you were driving), you wouldn't suspect a car as fast as it is. Didn't mean to push your MOPAR button, sorry.

Boo.

 

I don't have a Mopar button to push I was just pointing out how silly your comment was.

I mean really why would a viper owner think that if he or she lost to a thridgen on a straightaway they should take it back for a refund. Would you take your thirdgen back if you lost to a civic?

 

I would think about buying a civic.

 

I'm outta here.......this has gotten waaaaaaay too serious.

Think I'll go have a beer.

Later,

Boo.

 

We went from Firebirds vs Mustangs to Camaro's vs Vipers and now finally to Third Gens vs Civics!

What have I started?!?!?! I love the chaos.

LOL

-Bill

 

[QUOTE=lilbowilson;3019830]An both times the thirdgens won by Technical Knockout! Not really something to be proud of. Both times the other car was wayy faster![



Luck has nothing to do with it.

Pinks is all about bargaining and trying to get the upper hand, with a few little games played in between.

If anything, both thirdgens showed great durability, while the others couldn't even handle 4 passes on the track.

 

If your thirdgen got beat by a Mustang would you trade it in??? Afterall the Mustang owner might have spent a lot less on it than the thirdgen guy did.

Personally, the thirdgens won, no questions asked. Even if both other cars broke its still a win, thats how racing goes.

Sounds like the other cars were tuned to run all out and the motors couldnt handle it. Happens all the time, especially when a cars on the line. Id rather blow it up giving it my all, then losing but being conservative!

 

Yea, I really dont like all the lying on Pinks. It's one thing to give a guy a few lengths if he's slower than you. That makes it fair.

I remember one guy begged to use two stages of Nitrous. Then, he only used one stage, and intentionally lost. Next round, he kicked it in, won, and took the loser's car.

 

I wish the show was more driver than car. Negotiations are lame, just bring equal cars and race, and why the arm drop???

 

the teams are told how fast of a car to bring but that dont mean thats what they do. the arm drop is because at 5 to 6 leanths it would be hard for you top see the lights. if you were told to bring a 13 sec. car would you or would you want a little more insurance that you were not going too lose yours and more then likely the other team is going to bring more too. that is why the negotations are needed. that and to get the best edge you can as long as the other team is not really good liers about there car. the bully dog team really did a good job with there negotations even though the had the fastest of the two and they ran the last race without water in the raditatior. as far as the firebird and camaro the both out lasted the other cars even though the were the slower cars which just show that you dont have to be the fastest just more reliable.

 

Not sure if this is the one your talking about but it was the white Camaro and the guy asked for two stages, and only used one yet won the race. So the last race he said run it all, and ended up winning. I am pretty sure thats how it went. The guy actually beat a team near me (shop built car).

 

25thMustang, thats exactly what I was talking about. I dont recall if it was a 1st or 2nd gen Camaro, but I do remember that it was white.

 

Second gen, and I actually loved that episode. Even though I know a lot of people who helped the losing team, and the shop is about 10 minutes away I actually liked the guy who won. Im that kind of person, dont say much, come into the battle with less, knowing it has potential and then when you realize it, I get cocky about it. He did have a cocky attitude and I do like that when the underdog comes out with it!

 

[QUOTE=Manic Z;3023203]DUH!

Luck had everything to do with those two particular races because the other car broke! Even the best of the best engine builders can do everything right in building a engine an still have parts fail. Something are just out of your control especially when building high power engines.

That mustang own that firebird would have took it home too if he didn't brake on that last race.

That chevelle was way faster even Donnie Denton new he wasn't a match for it right from the start. If that chevelle hadn't spun that right tire on the third race he would have beat that iroc then it would have been 2 to 1. Was it the drivers fault that there was a wet spot on the track that made him spin or was it chance?

An on that last race was it the builders fault that the engine broke, the drivers fault or could it have been premature part failure!

I love this statment you made

The durability of those engines had nothing to do with the cars being thirdgens.

Anyway the point I was trying to make since it obviously passed you an some other guys on this thread by BOTH THIRDGENS WERE THE UNDERDOGS! In other words they were the slower car that had to beg for something in oder to win the race. If all 3 races were heads up our poor thirdgens would have lost badly, I just wish someone would go on that show with the ultimate thirdgen.

 

Underdogs?

Pinks doesn't have underdog's.
That's the purpose of the show.

Wanna run heads up? Go to a regular track and put your 'pinks' on the line.

My point was this:
If you build an engine that makes gobs of power, but can't hold itself together, or better still, can't even put the power to the ground, then too bad.

You don't race dyno sheets.

Bottem line: The third gens owned.

 

I didn’t get to see either episode (which is my luck) those are the ones I would want to see the most, but it was the Chevelles fault for the track being wet, they get to inspect the track and didn’t do a good enough job. No body wants to win by defualt but it happens.

The dude that said:
“I would rather pour $80,000 into my thirdgen than drive a Viper. No BS.”

I agree with that for sure. But of course the only car I like better then my 87 Iroc is a 69 Dodge Charger. Its all in what you like......but in many peoples cases its whats popular or more expensive that tells them its the car they should have.

 

Do you even know what the word underdog means? If you have a weaker car then your the underdog trying to beat a more powerful car. So what if the thirdgens got some lengths thats just playing a guessing game. Can my slower car beat your faster car if you give me 4 lengths?

Don't get me wrong I'm glad the thirdgens won but they won by a technicality an if you like winning that way thats cool. I would much rather have seen the other cars stay together it would have made a much better show.

You don't race dyno sheets? WTF who said anything about dyno sheets?

BOTTOM line the thirdgens won by luck they didn't own anything until the other guy broke down.

 

HA!

So if I race you for 'pinks', run some insane amount of nitrous on my stock cast iron piston motor in an attempt to beat you in a first to 3 win matchup, and my motor goes kaboom, you honestly will admit to me that you won by luck?

I don't think so. You won because you knew what you were doing.

The setup, bargaining, and mind games is what pinks is all about.

 

Man you make no sense at all those motors were built to with stand the amount of nitrous that was given to them. If you can recall they weren't even using both stages. When your pushing that kind of power things brake it happens to pros and it happens to guys like on pinks.

My dad spent over $12000 on a race engine he got about 5 good runs out of it before it broke. Race engines don't come with warrenties.

So what do you call it then? The thirdgens won by pure skill? Whatever! There is no bargaining if the car brakes you win by default thats it! Both thirdgens were slower than the other car thats the only point I was trying to make. I don't know WTF you keep talking about trying to explain the rules of pinks DUH thats obvious enough.

 

Damn man!

There is NO SUCH THING AS LUCK!!

Everything, and I mean everything happens for a reason.

Reason the firebird won: the damn mustang threw up on itself. Case F***n closed. You ever think about the fact that maybe Hardcore racing delayed the races as much as possible hoping the car would break? That's bargaining, that's playing chess. THAT'S SKILL.

Reason the IROC won: The other car had no driver and couldn't put the power to the ground. Hell, Donnie won that car HEADS UP!! Again, THERE WERE NO 'LUCKY' thirdgens in either show.

Nuff said.