i was just wondering, if me and my friend raced who do you think would win. both are basically stock.

 

I'd think that you would loose (even if the Mustang is a V6). I really hate the L03s (yea, I have one).

 

If your friend raced you on foot they would probably win ... Don't race technology, race a LG-4 car you might win easier

 

The '03 Mustang wouldn't beat the LO3 by much. Stock stang's are slow!

I ran one down the highway, starting at like 65mph and by 100mph my front bumper was at his rear bumper. My LO3 was completely stock beside a K&N open air element and a MOTORVATOR throttle body spacer.

 

ya are you sure that stan wasent a six because if you say its an 8 i smell bs

 

Yeah I can tell the difference between the sound of a six cylinder and a GT wide open

 

still beat ya .... thats all that counts. and if your are governed like all LO-3's he would have walked away from you even more ..... I said this cause you said till 100mph so something must have happened above 100mph lol

 

Oh I also had a B&M shift kit in it, but the only advantage that would have given me here is shifting into overdrive at WOT, but we only ran to 100mph so that really didn't come into use I wouldn't think.

That car would take 350 TPI from 45 roll or more. And I have a buddy with an '85 Vette and an '89 GTA that could vouch for that! They always told me it was a freak engine, because at like 20-25mph I could throw it back into 1st gear manually and blow it sideways on dry pavement. That just doesn't seem normal for a 305 TBI

 

EVERYONE and their brother has a "freak" motor when they dont have any timeslips to prove it. If you walked with a newer GT, he must not have been racing!

 

Maybe you thought the pavement was dry there probably was oil on it or something .... besides no LO-3 can get out of control (stock) at 25 and drop to first gear, the engine would be out of breath anyways. U-joints would break. I highly doubt you can even come close to a 350TPI car.

A five speed car might do what your saying but not a automatic LO-3 with freeway gears sorry

 

I did take it to the track once and it ran back to back 15.6's at like 83/84mph

and you can find my buddy Brandon Jordan on myspace or something and ask him about the '89 GTA, I wouldn't know how to get ahold of the guy that had the '86 Vette because he got stationed somewhere else.

and I wouldn't make something up that stupid, guess I'll just sound like the 15 year old idiot to everyone in this post

 

so a 15.6 car will throw you back in your seat? My 89 iroc with a 350 carb that runs 13.8's will not throw me back in my seat. And has for the shift kit braking tires loose maybe alitte chirp b&m kits are really shitty and do more harm then good. and i believe you could beat a 03 v6 mustang but not a 4.6 gt no way in hell they run low 14's from the factory.

 

20-25mph in first gear in a 700R4 is less than 4000 RPM, that thing would run just fine all the way up to about 5200-5300 RPM so I don't understand how you think it would be out of breathe!?!?


.....and btw a manual GT Mustang might be able to run a low 14 second quarter mile (I would like to see it done, completely stock) I guarantee no automatic GT Mustang is going to run a low 14 stock!!!

 

I think the only other V8 car that I took with my Formula was my buddy Brian's '92 Crown Vic Police Interceptor (I think it was a '92) 4.6L, and by 60mph i had atleast 3 car lengths on him.

 

I can vouch for the GTA and the Crown vic run. I was in the GTA when it was beaten and I was in RITTERS formula when he beat the Crown. Tune port cars arent gods gift to drag cars. Most are pretty nutless stock. I was suprised when RITTER started pulling by our buddys GTA but it sure as **** did.

 

my old 305 would throw u back in your seat it is a 5 speed formula 88 so idk wat u are saying

 

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ok but lets look at your car 305 h.o 5 speed, 3.55 gears yea I can imagine yours pulls pretty good ...... but not a LO-3 with probably 2.73 gears and automatic and 165hp ...... roll back the clock here to a CFI motor most had 2.73-3.08-3.23 gears and they had 10 more hp ...... and they were ungodly dogs .... I've driven a LO-3 you can outrun it on foot for godsakes. The only thing wortwhile from a LO-3 is it's distributor, intake take that off and stick it on a nice 350 and then tell everyone its a LO-3 then you might get some WOOOOOOW that is actually a pretty quik LO-3.
I t5hink it's safe to say if you ask anyone how good a LO-3 runs they will just laugh and say well about as good as a LG-4

 

Seeing as I have seen a few run high 13s bone stock, and there is even a board member here who went 14.0 or 14.1 in a bone stock auto GT. I knew a woman who went 14.3 in a stock auto VERT as well.

Also your guys definition of throw into the seat must differ from mine. My 12 second car doesnt throw me into the seat anymore, and even a few 11 second cars I have driven lately just dont seem to have it anymore. This is why I am changing the car around very soon. New motor and boost shouldnt be too far from now!

 

I dont think RITTER ever said anything about his car putting him back in his seat. Think he said it would burn out. Which it did everynow and then and yes on dry pavement. I guess this is one of those have to see it believe it situations.

 

Sorry, aint gonna happen... 99-03 GT's arent SLOW. autos might be alittle slow but still capable of 14's which is better than most thirdgen times. manual cars are capable of touching 13's at 99-100 mph stock with great driver.. most tho are 14.2-14.4's at 97-99

My car with full bolt ons just about will only marginally win against stock Gt stangs. full bolt on GT stangs run 13.3's at 102mph. I run 13.4-13.5''s at 99.

L03 wont stand a chance against a L98 car that is running in good shape, and an L98 will only hang with a GT stang stock for stock. if an L03 does then its not stock..or the other car wasnt racing

 

My post wasn't reffering to RITTER in that part, just the first part...

 

I have a hard time believing that an LO3 beat a Mustang GT. I used to have an LO3/Auto/2.73 and its about as fast (or slow, depending on how you look at it) as most modern vehicles on the road today, but it wouldn't have stood a chance against a Mustang GT. I don't even know if a decent LB9 could beat a GT... (read on)...

About 3-4 weeks ago i was a light about to get on the highway and a Black 99-03 mustang GT pulls up to me. I know it had an exhaust because it had a great exhaust note at idle, but I don't really know if it had anything besides that. We both get on the highway and i'm pretty much just following him, because honestly I don't think I would have a chance. After a few miles 2 sport bikes pull up next to us and go flying by. At this point, I know its every man for himself. The bikes take off, the mustang takes off, and then i take off. Obviously the bikes had no problem pulling away from us. Me and the mustang went from about 55-60ish to about 100-105ish. Taking into account that i was cruising about 3-4 car lenghts behind him, and that I took off after i heard his car downshift...it didn't seem as if he gained any noticable ground on me. I know that car is faster than mine, but it didn't seem like a completely lopsided race. My car didn't really fall behind but it definitely DIDNT pull on him. But basically im saying, if my [VERY] lightly modded 305 TPI couldn't pull on a mustang GT, i know an LO3 couldnt.

(my car is also like 99% stock---magnaflow 3" hiflow cat, 3" catback to a magnaflow muffler, fan switch, thermostat)

 

Ok, first I never said that I beat a Mustang GT, and we didn't race from a stop so quarter mile have absolutely nothing to do with any of it.

And my buddies GTA ran just fine

Stock 350 TPI run like what 15's so how do they run with a low 14 second GT, see ya'll are contradicting yourselves there.

GT MUSTANG'S ARE NOT FAST!!!!!!!

 

Says the man that runs 15.5's. Give me a ****ing break. You raced(as you say) one and now suddenly they're all slow? You sir are a retard. You have a dog motor that barely gets out of its own way. Also, a heavy *** Crown Vic? Slow down killer.

No wonder the smarter members of this board stay away from the that flows on this part of the board.
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Mad LO3 powah Christ, my vette doesn't even throw me back in the seat and it's a 12 second car
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Holy hell you're clueless.

 

agreed, L98s in good running order are mid 14's stock. later SD cars went low 14's or so.

if they had a stick they be in the 13's stock well driven ofcourse

 

woa, sorry there mister senior member, hhahaa never even said my LO3 was fast. see ya'll take things and twist them into, well whatever you want pretty much. and I am pretty much stating exactly what your are saying, that even if a stock 99-03 Mustang runs 14 seconds, its not fast! that is the whole point that I have been trying to make in this thread

so go badger someone that started the stupid arguement in the first place, by making unneccessary remarks to my post.

 

I've also seen them in the 13's bone stock...which would put a hurting on half the cars here..including yours...so I'm not sure how you can sit there and say they're slow.

Watch out for the Honda Civics man, they'll give you a good run for your $$$.

 

OMG i know my car is slow

YOU ARE RETARDED, GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC

 

well it just sounded like you were claiming your car was fast by saying it takes out L98's and runs with GT's

 

No I wasn't trying to make anyone think that my car was fast, I just want 89IrocPballa to not be scared to race a GT Mustang and especially a V6 Mustang

Every car that I have had any actual experience with performs completely different on the street than it does at the track, and unless you are racing from a dig, a quarter mile ET doesn't mean anything. All car's have varying power bands and perform better at certain points in the RPM range and speed range

 

...and if you think his LO3 has the slightest chance against that GT(provided the GT driver isn't a complete retard) I need the # to your crack dealer so I can get some. Unless he has a seizure behind the wheel the GT won't lose.

 

Your right, and racing from a roll that GT is going walk BUS lengths on you. Your cars not making power anywhere near 5000 RPM, whereas the Mustang will rev well past that. If there is anything a thirdgen is good at, it is races from a dig.

A low 14s high 13s stock car is not what you can call slow, after all your 15.6 car, was about as fast as my stock Jeep Grand Cherokee! Good performance car you bought there!

 

Wow you guys are a bunch of A holes.

 

i can't belive i read this whole thread
BTW if you want i can beat you down in my STOCK civic.

 

You guys are a bunch of *******S

Never said my car was fast!
Never said my car would throw you back in your seat!
Never said my car makes power after 5000 RPM! (just said it will go to there to make a point)
I don't do drugs!

and ya'll are CHICKEN ****ERS and should all go play in highway traffic!!!

 

We're not *******s, just calling you out on the rubbish you're spewing. Some dude with a 15 second car calling a 13 second car slow is comical.

 

Yeah because every car performs the same as long as it has the same drivetrain, NO!!!

 

Huh?

 

That was just some sarcasm, sorry

I'm done with this thread, thank you for all the thoughts and comments everyone

and to 89IrocPballa, let us know how things go if you race the Mustang?! and make sure to race from the speed of 65mph

later everyone, nice chattin

 

lol i think even if he had a seizure its a 50/50 chance that he will hit the gas so i still think he is screwed lmao

 

X2

 

Sad

A guy on foot having better 60 foot times then a LO-3 f-body. Hope this guy doesn't mix it up with a marathon runner at a stoplight.

 

its guys like him that make mustang guys think thirdgens are pieces of ****. Everytime i meet someone with a 5.0 or 4.6 right away they look at my car and go those body style camaros are slow as **** does it even run 15's? Then when i say it runs 13's i have to show them timeslips. So respect cars taht are faster dont say there slow when all motor straight from the factory 4 cylinders can run laps around you. When your in a slow car talking **** to faster cars the guys in the faster cars are going to label people with your cars to be slow.

 

You guys miss the part where he said he knows his car is a turd? Im in the 11's so I would like to say 03 stangs are slow

 

99-03 gt mustang are dogs i have seen 3 out of 20 in the 14's 1 was in the 13's and that was a mach 1 i have seen so many of those cars around here run high 15

 

i'm running mid 13's and i feel that is slow. this car bores me on the street. i'm so used to 13's now i want faster.

 

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

 

that just means they cant drive. if you own a 99-03 GT and not in the mid low 14's stock, your driving sucks or you live in high altitude areas

 

I'de believe this ritter would have stayed with the mustang with that grand prix but not a LO-3.

That was inspirational rhymed too!

 

I actually tried racing a 99-03 style GT convertible the other night with my Grand Prix but we couldn't get an open road, lol