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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Re: 3rd Gen + What MODS beats ZO6

You can read more about it here; http://www.rangeracceleration.com/index.html

The track signed the time slip and there were several other 'Vetteforums members who will vouch that the the car is stock. Of course, anything is possible, but there have been other drivers who have run VERY low 11's, over 128 in stock form.

The OP needs to Chime in here: "beat Z06's" to the OP does that mean the average Z06 (and driver) or how fast, the Z06 (the car) can potentially go?
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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Re: 3rd Gen + What MODS beats ZO6

i think that with a good forged bottom end a set of four bolt main caps some GOOD heads... like the trickflow 175 ported real nice and a twin screw supercharger or a twin turbo setup can go to or beyond stock Z06 speed and time in the quarter... wouldnt be much more expensive than a 350 setup the same way...
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 12:57 AM
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i took a Z06 with a 3.1 with a supercharger and a racing chip, oh... and he choked of the line, that helped a lot : ) also the jerk reminded he paid more for his rims than i did 4 my whole car!
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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Re: 3rd Gen + What MODS beats ZO6

if the car doesnt go high 10s at high 120's-130 trap then it isnt superior to a z06. If i come in here and post that i beat john force by .001, but he trapped 245mph more than me does that mean my car is faster? not hardly.

FWIW, ive seen these cars go low 11's here in indy. im confidant they will go 10's with some seat time and a tire. Obviously the 10 second barrier was broken already. Have i seen a c6z06 go 12's? yes, but the guy who drove the car into the 12's should have saved his entry money and rented something on pay per view at home.

The question was "beats" a zo6. Not "gets lucky against" a zo6. Id rather know i have it in the bag then hope you get a bad driver in a fast car
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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I would like nothing more for the Corvette ZO6 to run high 10's right out of the box. But when I briefly owned one, mine must have been a detuned one, because there is no way it would have pulled off a ten second run. For me to believe that would require a full inspection of the car, including a dyno. Just like the internet, the track is filled with people claiming one thing, only to really be another. Seriously, how many cars can be called as to what they're really running just by looking at them from the outside? Bigger camshafts are easily hidden with proper tuning.....

We have endless Corvette challenges here in Jersey, with some of the fastest Corvette's in the world being embellished by the Vette Doctors, and Cartek Racing. I have never seen any of them take a bone stock ZO6 w/drag radials to a ten second pass. That's not to say that it hasn't been done by Ranger, maybe he did, but why why tamper with the video footage though, just show the whole damn run like all of the other 11 second passes he made....
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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Re: 3rd Gen + What MODS beats ZO6

Originally Posted by Street Lethal
I would like nothing more for the Corvette ZO6 to run high 10's right out of the box. But when I briefly owned one, mine must have been a detuned one, because there is no way it would have pulled off a ten second run. For me to believe that would require a full inspection of the car, including a dyno. Just like the internet, the track is filled with people claiming one thing, only to really be another.
Dude, Ranger is legit, and you know it. There are too many people who know him, and who were at the track to witness his runs to deny it...BOTH for the C6 Z06 AND the legendary C5 Z06 runs that he's made. There is NO ONE, who claims foul on Rangers runs, (i.e. no witnesses who saw/heard/or know of foul play), for EITHER of his cars (C5 or C6 Z06's) other than people like you who...DON'T know. "I couldn't do it, so it can't be done!" Lame.

My stock C6 (LS2) hasn't run low 12's, but I don't cry foul to the guy that's run a 12.17 in one. I say GOOD JOB!, and I believe him. In fact, I believe the base C6 has an 11 in it, but no one has figured out how to make it happen yet, including me. The problem is as I cited earlier. Not enough 'Vette owners track their cars. And of the few people who do, most of them don't have the inclination toward proper driving techniques to extract the most out of their cars. Result? Poor average numbers and few data points. I see this constantly when I go to the track and see people running 14's w/stock C6's!!! CRAZY! Does that mean that if I have a 14 flat F-body that my car "beats C6's"? Not to me it doesn't. It means that it and I beat poor drivers driving C6's.

Furthermore, I threw down Ranger's results as an "absolute" benchmark, but like the poster before you said, there are plenty that have run low 11's to back that up, and few that have tagged 10's on tires. Once again, demograph of owners limiting the data and results.

IMO, This sums it up handily:
Originally Posted by randy87iroc
The question was "beats" a zo6. Not "gets lucky against" a zo6. Id rather know i have it in the bag then hope you get a bad driver in a fast car
...But like I said earlier...only the OP can tell us what "beats a Z06" means to him.

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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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Re: 3rd Gen + What MODS beats ZO6

Originally Posted by Street Lethal
I would like nothing more for the Corvette ZO6 to run high 10's right out of the box. But when I briefly owned one, mine must have been a detuned one, because there is no way it would have pulled off a ten second run.
You should of took it to MIR and ran it in sub-arctic like cold with negative DA's - like the previously mentioned did. Might of got it then.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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Re: 3rd Gen + What MODS beats ZO6

I'd love to see a C6 Z06 stock run the times the forums have posted. I've seen alot run around me, some with mods and none of them bested 120 mph in the 1/4 and run low 12's to barely high 11's.

not bad at all in a street tire car but just shows many drivers dont know how to get the best times out of that car

My setup was built with intention of beating stock C5 Z06's on motor and Z06 C6's on spray AFR headed 383 HSR street motor.

Made 400whp on motor alone and have a 150whp shot on the car. Ran 11.47 at 118.5 with a best of 119.1 trap in summer conditions. Havent ran it in the cooler air. Thats abit better than stock Z06 Ls6 numbers, and actually hoped for more power out of this setup. 420ish whp would be more on par with what i wanted.
On the first nitrous passes i went 10.92 at 125 running very rich and having traction problems. Leaned it out and i expect near 128-130 mph trap speeds which is what the best Z06's seem to trap stock although rare it seems. The ones with a few exhaust/tune mods seem to average closer to 128-130.

I'm alittle short on my goals but i cant complain. The car is pretty fast for what it is and i can always go to the 200 shot.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Re: 3rd Gen + What MODS beats ZO6

You can read more about it here; http://www.rangeracceleration.com/index.html

The track signed the time slip and there were several other 'Vetteforums members who will vouch that the the car is stock. Of course, anything is possible, but there have been other drivers who have run VERY low 11's, over 128 in stock form.

The OP needs to Chime in here: "beat Z06's" to the OP does that mean the average Z06 (and driver) or how fast, the Z06 (the car) can potentially go?
Havent been back to this thread for a while, nice to see a lot of folks chiming in.

What I mean when I say beat a ZO6 is beat the car. Basically full potential vs full potential.

I think I mentioned earlier that it is very satisfying to see a clean very well executed high-performance build produce great results. It is also very satisfying (this is just me) to see the underdog come away with the win. I realize that to build a car that will run with and beat a C6 ZO6 is expensive but its nice to set a goal for a build and achieve it.

I notice a lot (not all) of the ZO6 drivers have a nice helping of arrogance along for the ride when cruising the streets. Its just nice to see a challenger humble the arrogant crowd. Especially when it comes from a lowly 3rd gen. The ZO6 is a great ride but there are a lot of great rides out there.

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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DayShaVuGTA
Havent been back to this thread for a while, nice to see a lot of folks chiming in.

What I mean when I say beat a ZO6 is beat the car. Basically full potential vs full potential.

I think I mentioned earlier that it is very satisfying to see a clean very well executed high-performance build produce great results. It is also very satisfying (this is just me) to see the underdog come away with the win. I realize that to build a car that will run with and beat a C6 ZO6 is expensive but its nice to set a goal for a build and achieve it.

I notice a lot (not all) of the ZO6 drivers have a nice helping of arrogance along for the ride when cruising the streets. Its just nice to see a challenger humble the arrogant crowd. Especially when it comes from a lowly 3rd gen. The ZO6 is a great ride but there are a lot of great rides out there.
with all of that. Well said.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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Re: 3rd Gen + What MODS beats ZO6

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with all of that. Well said.
so john force really is faster than me? i mean i did get him by .00000001 but trapped 245mph less
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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Re: 3rd Gen + What MODS beats ZO6

Don't be hatin' on the Z06s...especially the C5Zs. Here's my 2004 Z16 (and 2000 Z28):
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We should be glad that GM has the stones to build bad-*** cars...
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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Re: 3rd Gen + What MODS beats ZO6

Originally Posted by DayShaVuGTA
I have seen on this site a supercharged 305 making @ 600hp

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/powe...ferrerid=76725

also a turbo 305

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/powe...5+supercharged

so I know its possible but has someone taken down a C6 ZO6?

Has anyone done it with a LB9?

Surely its happened before.
all u need is a high 10 sec set up
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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I'm just gonna file this under, "If you have to ask.........".
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