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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

My 1987 Firebird

2.3L V6 FI Multi Port.

Bone Stock.


My dads 1987 Monte Carlo SS

305 V8 Carburated

Also bone stock.


Would i have an advantage cause im lighter?
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

160 foot-pounds torque in yours vs minimum 250 (assuming LG4) in the monte = you lose. vs a truck you might have a chance but the monte is pretty close to an f-body for weight.
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

he has got you beat
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

Most SS's also came factory with 3:73 gears, Same basic weight but with better gears more HP and TQ. you might as well start waving "Bye-bye" before the light turns green.......How ever from a high speed roll you might have a very slim chance due to highway gears in your car, his will top out faster but he maybe too far ahead by the time you get going.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 03:57 AM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

all monte SS's came with the L69 motor. only the non-SS got the LG4

so youre looking at 190hp/240tq for the SS vs your 135hp/160tq
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 06:10 AM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

Originally Posted by 1brd2brd3brd4
Most SS's also came factory with 3:73 gears, Same basic weight but with better gears more HP and TQ. you might as well start waving "Bye-bye" before the light turns green.......How ever from a high speed roll you might have a very slim chance due to highway gears in your car, his will top out faster but he maybe too far ahead by the time you get going.
All 85+ SS's got 3.73 gears. Posi was an option though. 83 and 84 SS's got 3.42 gears with no posi option.

Originally Posted by tpivette89
all monte SS's came with the L69 motor. only the non-SS got the LG4

so youre looking at 190hp/240tq for the SS vs your 135hp/160tq
Very true. He's got you by a couple of seconds...
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

Originally Posted by Schwinny
My 1987 Firebird

2.3L V6 FI Multi Port.

Bone Stock.


My dads 1987 Monte Carlo SS

305 V8 Carburated

Also bone stock.


Would i have an advantage cause im lighter?
well every 100 pounds is said to reduce your quarter mile time by .1 seconds... are you 2000 pounds ligher than him? hahahahaha

Oh and why do you say 2.3L V6 in the post and in your signature? The '87 models came with a 2.8L V6... I don't even think a 2.3L displacement V6 was ever made by GM.

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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

Say goodnight...
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

I can't believe you're asking this question.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

Originally Posted by JeremyNYR
Oh and why do you say 2.3L V6 in the post and in your signature? The '87 models came with a 2.8L V6... I don't even think a 2.3L displacement V6 was ever made by GM.
ya... That's what i was wondering.. I hope he just mis-read his..

And the Monte has you. Especially if your running a 4-cyl 2.3...
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

Wow, I completely missed that

Maybe it's a destroked 2.8 so it can rev higher.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

It's a v8...'nuff said :P
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

V8 isn't everything. In most cases you are right, but I'm confident my V6 could take down an old,.. worn out,.. V8...?
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

^I'd say it would knock out an old 265 in an original 8,000,000-pound '55 Chevy any day .

Completely off topic, but I wonder why GM never offered the 4.3 in F-bodies? I've had two of them in boats and my buddy in high school had one in his Blazer ... it's just a 350 with two cylinders lopped off, and those puppies were STRONG!
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

I've actually been wondering that as well. A couple people on this board have talked about it but i never saw it finished =/



And i could knock out more than an old beater truck...

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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

Originally Posted by JeremyNYR
well every 100 pounds is said to reduce your quarter mile time by .1 seconds... are you 2000 pounds ligher than him? hahahahaha

Oh and why do you say 2.3L V6 in the post and in your signature? The '87 models came with a 2.8L V6... I don't even think a 2.3L displacement V6 was ever made by GM.
Yeah.

I know that now.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

sorry but i think you would lose. at least it wouldnt be a shameful loss though, at least you would be losing to another GM muscle car and not a POS honda
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 07:00 AM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

No loss should really be shamefull if and when you are simply out gunned..........in this case, BB gun Vs. 38 LOL
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

Originally Posted by V6F1R3BRD
V8 isn't everything. In most cases you are right, but I'm confident my V6 could take down an old,.. worn out,.. V8...?
I'll make you a heck of a deal on a TPI 305.........
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

What kind of deal?... o.O
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

Engine, Tranny, Harness, serpintine setup,Computor W/prom. Pretty much everything you need to put it in your car. $600
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

I would gladly go for that, but at the moment i don't have the cash..

I might be trying to get a Caprice, if I get that I'm doing a motor swap.
Even though i don't know if its a 305,350, carbed or what.. but if that falls through
i will pm'n you lol

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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

Well.........when you get tired of rowing let me know, cause we seem to be in the same boat!
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

Hey at least its a loss to my dad. Not some punk at work.
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

Originally Posted by Schwinny
My 1987 Firebird

2.3L V6 FI Multi Port.

Bone Stock.


My dads 1987 Monte Carlo SS

305 V8 Carburated

Also bone stock.


Would i have an advantage cause im lighter?
NO... My Chevrolet Van with the same basic engine as the Monte could take you down.
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

All the ricers in my area have late 80's and early 90's hondas.. so they are easy to leave behind

And thats why i don't care if i "only" have a v6! lol
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 11:30 PM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

i would advise you to not race anything. when i had my 87 v6 camaro i never won a race and also lost to a stock 94 civic 4 door with under 100 HP.

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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 12:05 AM
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Re: Who would win? Monte Carlo Or Firebird?

no offense, but that just means either you cant drive, or YOUR v6 was not in good working order.
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