this guy at work has a 97 3.8 firebird and he wants to race me in my 86 305 tpi trans am. both cars are autos and pretty stock cars. his is bone stock and i only have a shift kit. i may or may not have a cold air intake or exhuast by the time of the race. BTW, this is going to be a stoplight to stoplight race. prolly not over 60 or 70mph. i have ridden in his car and it seems slower than mine. but what do u guys think. should i do exhaust or cold air before i race him? or will i beat him stock for stock?

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1986 pontiac trans am
5.0 305 TPI V8
700R4 tranny w/transgo shift kit.
KYB shocks

 

budddy,
u will eat him up! my buddy has a 5 speed manual in his 94 camaro and my 83 305 cfi would beat it! ur car had alot more ***** then his does. ur gonna beat him by about 5 car lengths at least! i figure a 3.8 in utah can run a 8 second 0 to 60 time and i have owned a 86 iroc z28 and that could run about a 7.5 stock! so if u go off that ull be in good shape! tell him ull bet him some money and make a profit off of the race!
recaro xfire

 

First off, recaro, there is a major difference from the 3.4 to the 3.8, about 40 hp and ft/lb.
Kernal, your car has about 10 less hp then his, but you got torque on him. It should be a really good race. Youll probably win, but not by 5 carlengths.

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Executive Administrative Assisstant of the Elusive Great Lakes Crew

95 Camaro, Slow but good looking

85 Yellow IROC Sold
355 Lingenfelter
A4 with gears turned to mush.

 

Depending on your rear end set up as well. But you will beat him. It will be close.My cousin has a 01 firebird and he would smoke me by 5 car lengths(of course i have a tbi)
but after the gears he could not even touch me.I think the new camaros the six's have a desent rear end ratio, like 3.08's.
So be careful if you spin he will be on your a#@...good luck
jon
92 rs, tbi 700r4

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14X3 OPEN ELEMENT K&N AIR FILTER, UNDERDRIVE PULLIES,
REMOVED SMOG CRAP,LT1 CAM,HEADMAN HEADDERS, CUSTOM Y PIPE,
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HYPERTECH CHIP STAGE 2, 160 THERMO,160 FAN SWITCH,B&M COUNSLE RATCHET SHIFTER,
B&M SHIFT KIT , TRANNY COOLER, AND 410 GEARS

 

Actually the sixes have 3.23s

 

those v6's dont have more horsepower then him either... they sit at around 200 horses i believe.i thought the 305 tpi had like 220 horses? correct me if i am wrong here guys. and the v8 has way more torque which is the big difference in a stop light to stop light race.
Shawn

 

Pimpin - the 86 305 TPIs had 190 hp and 285 lb/ft of torque. The 97 3.8 V6 is rated at 200 hp and 240 lb/ft.

 

I got my money on the brand new spankin 97 camaro! They rev up quicker and hes got the dam peanut cam!

 

so should i try to put my exhaust on before i race him? i can put on my ghetto CAI intake on there too if that will help.

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1986 pontiac trans am
5.0 305 TPI V8
700R4 tranny w/transgo shift kit.
KYB shocks

 

If you can, why not? The exhaust will help quite a bit, and the worse you beat him, the better you'll feel. What kind of exhaust are you putting on?

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82 Camaro:
350
Erson cam, ported heads,Comp Cams 1.6:1 rocker arms
Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, Holley 600
Crane Hi-6 ignition, Accel supercoil
TH350 tranny with 2500 stall.
Eibach Pro Kit
SLP 1 3/4" headers

 

i am thinking of getting the flowmaster american thunder for an exhaust system.
plus a gutted cat and new y pipe.

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1986 pontiac trans am
5.0 305 TPI V8
700R4 tranny w/transgo shift kit.
KYB shocks

 

I dunno, my friends mom has a 98 camaro with the 3.8 auto and I can only beat it off the line, its pretty quick. If we race from say a 40mph punch, I can just barely pull it. My guess is you will probably win, but not by much. Only one way to find out for sure!

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1983 Firebird
TH700R4 Auto
Small Block 400
LG4 ECM, Intake, Carb, Distributor, etc.
Soon to be non-computer.
Clarion Head Unit 45X4
2 Pioneer 400W 12" Subs
Third Gen Performance
"A four cylinder is half an engine."

 

your telling me you can barely beat a stock v6 camaro with sb400?