Sup guys this is my first post on this site. I just bought an 86 Trans AM(shooting for tens by the spring) and I came here hoping to learn a lot. A lot of you guys know your **** but the thing I have seen a lot is people talkin mad **** about imports. i drive a 92 civic that will take out a lot of third gens (13.3 in the 1/4). I just get pissed off I mean a fast car is a fast car why hate on everything thats not a third gen. In my book if you run under a 14 you have my respect. Thats all I just needed to vent a little bit. The thing i have notcied is that the people who talk the most crap seem to be running 15's...... cmon now with times like that please dont say anything at all
oh yeah I like the site a lot I just hope I didnt make too many enemies with this post

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92 honda civic
w/95 gsr a hell of a lot of bolt ons and a 75hp shot
86 Trans Am (in progress) w/383 stroker
turbo 400 thats it so far shooting for 10's

 

get used to it threat. there are a lot of hillbilly good old boys here that are bitter from losing to 1.8 liters .

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305 TPI 5speed
1LE/G92/WS6

Paxton SN92 supercharger(SN93 upgrade), Ford SVO 24#injectors, Crane AFPR,SLP airfoil, ported/polished plenum, March alt. pulley,Crane Gold 1.6rrs,MSD coil,MSD6AL (5200rpm limit),Holley 9mm wires,Ac delco R43ts plugs,custom chip,Bosch O2sensor,SLP 1 5/8" headers,SLP catback,shortened shifter,3:73s w/Auburn posi,170* t-stat,JET 195* fan switch, Macewen white face gauges, Autometer gauges, Zoom hi-performance clutch.

 

LOL that is probaly the case

 

You have to admit that most of the civics are running 15's too(ive seen 17's at the track). I dont hate imports at all. In fact I find it enjoyable to beat 90% of the kids who lower their civic 3 inches, put a *** awful spoiler on it, and have a 5inch muffler tip, with no work done to thier engine. I respect the cars that are fast, but most people who drive those things never touch their engine. Do you run 13's on gas? cause Ive never seen a 1.8 powered civic get better than high 14's on motor. What are you doing with the 86? You gonna work on the 305 or dump something bigger in there? If you are into nitrous Ive heard some guys hit high 12's/low 13's with pretty much stock 305 tpi's and slicks. Have fun with the thirdgen, welcome to the board.
peace

 

why cant we say G O D?
WTF?

 

With no juice I run a 14.1, the reason my car is so quick is because of the power to wieght ratio. I weigh 2200lbs and lets say with all my bolt ons I have 225 to at the crank that will put my in low 14's high 13's no problem. Also I dont have a sohc a lot of the slow ricers you see put an exhaust on the dx engine and think that they are fast. I have the intgra dohc gsr so thats why. with the TA I am gonna go with a fully built 383 stroker with a 200 shot o juice what do you guys think

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92 honda civic
w/95 gsr a hell of a lot of bolt ons and a 75hp shot
86 Trans Am (in progress) w/383 stroker
turbo 400 thats it so far shooting for 10's

 

Are you gonna go with a carb or tpi/superram/miniram? The stock tpi system is too restrictive for a good 383 and the aftermarket (superram/miniram) injection intakes cost a ton. If you dont have to worry about emmisions I would go carb w/ no computer. If you do the suspension mods needed to get that kind of power to the ground I dont think 10's would be out of reach with a 200 shot and a weight diet. Any way you go I think you'll have a fast car when you are done. My advise is to look through posts on all the boards, check out people's sigs and see what kind of setup they are running and what kind of results they are getting. Be sure to check out the power adder board and talk to some of those guys. They have more experience with sub 12 second cars.
good luck
-85

 

Thanks man, I am definatly goin carb. I gotta a guy here that will gimme an inspection for $60 bucks so thats not a problem

 

"In my book if you run under a 14 you have my respect."

So you dont respect anyone who runs higher than a 14? So you dont respect 95% of imports?


Seriously though the reason so many people hate imports (That I know atlest) is because they see fast and the furious, buy a 140HP Import and talk trash about every car and think they got a 10 second car.

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[This message has been edited by IROCThe5.7L (edited October 15, 2001).]

 

To me the reason why I don't like them, because there are too many of them out on the street that think just because they put a muffler on, a wing, stickers, gfx, and rims that they're fast. There's this one car I know that is a CRX with dual fart pipes, with a high rise aluminum spoiler, 5" tach w/shift lite, and a racing clutch and he was like yeah I finally broke into the 16's. Wow, that's impressive. I don't see why anyone would want to waste all that money into making a slow car a little faster, when you can take a good American designed V8 and use that torque. But oh well that makes it more interesting for me because that means less Camaros rolling around to beat me.

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"Rice burners are like tampons...Every pu$$y has to have one"
'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
3" Hooker CatBack w/Aero Chamber muffler
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
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3:73 Posi
Rebuilt 700R4
B&M Megashifter, 5" Autometer Tach w/shift lite

 

what kind of girls you been hanging out with?

 

You would be surprised how many imports are into and under the 14's. Here in NY there are a lot of very fast imports. True there is a lot of rice out here too but there is a large amount of quick imports that you need to be careful hwo you race because you might just get your *** handed to you.I would love some of you guys who htink I am talkin **** to come out here and race my boy Jay with his 10 second civic and see what happend

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92 honda civic
w/95 gsr a hell of a lot of bolt ons and a 75hp shot
86 Trans Am (in progress) w/383 stroker
turbo 400 thats it so far shooting for 10's

 

Where In NY you located?

I see what your saying. But yea this guy could beat us and that guy can beat us. And Im sure there is guys here who would beat your friend jay too!


I dont have a problem with Imports or anything. Just not my cup of tea.
I can just imagine how much $$ this jay guy had to put in his car.

Around here where I am 95% of imports are slow. Everyone is into looks and dont do many engine mods yet think they can take out 350s

Id take my stock 14 second mean sounding american muscle over a 10 second import. Just not into them.
Its all preference

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1988 Jet Black IROC
5.7L W/ 64000 miles
Flowmaster Exhaust
Fully Loaded
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My IROC In Readers Rides
My IROC

 

If I'm getting what you said right, the quote means that every "Pu$$y" which means young punk has to have one. Nothing to do with girls.
Here's another quote for ya.
"Putting any amount of money into a Rice Burner, is like wiping your a$$ with a terd."

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"Rice burners are like tampons...Every pu$$y has to have one"
'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
3" Hooker CatBack w/Aero Chamber muffler
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
160* Stat, just switched to 180* b/c of winter coming and going to college in the mts.
3:73 Posi
Rebuilt 700R4
B&M Megashifter, 5" Autometer Tach w/shift lite

 

"Putting any amount of money into a Rice Burner, is like wiping your a$$ with a terd."


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1988 Jet Black IROC
5.7L W/ 64000 miles
Flowmaster Exhaust
Fully Loaded
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My IROC In Readers Rides
My IROC

 

i think that some ricers make a bad name for all the other ones which actually run under a 16's. as far as respect anyone has mine under 14's. except harleys that is another story...

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91z28 350tpi auto runs 14.3

 

We'd be talking about underaged children if they weren't using tampons...

 

Well, like it or not, Hondas suck.
A lot of my friends own them, and I absolutely hate them. Especially newer ones that are built for fuel economy. Now good fuel economy + honda = not fast. The fastest honda i've ever seen ran a 10, and thats because he put a different engine in it and had more weight on the front wheels because of all the stickers he put on it. As far as the REAL racing world goes, leave them hondas alone, cuz I don't thnk that we're in danger of losing to any of them.

P.S. I don't give a damn about 13.3's in a honda. Bottom line: it's still a honda

 

well lets see whats wrong with imports...
-the majority of them are econoboxes.
-pretty much all of them are either plain looking as all hell with NO styling,or are just butt ugly(the supra looks like a big friggin cartoon bug)
-it takes mega$$ to get them into the 10's because not many ricers know how to do REAL engine work(internal work)
-did i mention theyre ugly?
-with few exceptions...FRONT WHEEL DRIVE!!
-they all sound like total $HIT.Nothing compares to the sound of a good running V8.
-i wont even start in the lack of torque they have.
-even the most a$$hole punk driving thirdgen MUSCLE isnt as much a **** as the a$$hole driving the IMPROPERLY lowered civic with 18's,more chrome under that tiny *** hood than a dayum CADDY has on its body,and HUMONGOUS fart pipe.
i know theyre are more reasons,but ill leave the rest to everyone else.
ok just my $.02 worth!!




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-1991 camaro rs,dark red metallic,t-tops,stock 15inch rims,Z28 bowtie grille insert with driving lights
-L03 305,TH700R4,2.73's,only mods for now are...Flowmaster 80 series replacement muffler,accel wires and coil,14x3 open element with K&N,lockup switch at the track,and a catco cat.
-best 1/4 mile times to date:15.89@86 with a 2.26 60 ft

 

The only cool Honda I've ever seen is a CRX with a 383 Stroker in it. It had no stickers and no stupid wing. American power in a small *** car!

 

The thing that I hate is the loser in the car. And you need to shut your trap about rednecks hating imports. There are more nissan and toyota 4x4 drivers in middle tn, and...they're southern and not rich so I guess that makes them rednecks in your books. Also, I was harrassed by an 80s maxima full of rednecks- and these were rednecks- after I stomped them with my 85 302bbl cougar. I beat them bad from a light, and stayed at about 50-60 mph. It was at night and the streets were empty, but it was 40 mph limit. They caught up beside me, pacing me, their engine screaming, poor car wayed down by alcohol soaked crackers. Then they eased off from my car by flooring it the rest of the way- I didn't speed up at all to stop them. When we got to another light, they went for the left turn lane, I had to make a right. I heard one of them fellers say, "how 'bout dat?" What? How about what? As I took my turn, my car went dead, a little problem the cougar had in colder weather. I started it back and left a cloud of smoke for the maxima. I was pissed as I was driving the rest of the way home. They thought they won. How? Anyway...bottom lines:
1)Not all poor people are rednecks.
2)Not all southern people are rednecks.
3)Rednecks are not confined to American cars.
4)The fastest car is not always the best car.
5)Actually the first thing that I notice about a ******* is that they're racist and prejudice. But prejudice comes in many forms. It is assuming that you know something about a whole group of people or anything for that matter...just by a small percentage of examples. Like assuming that someone is a ******* if they don't particularly want an imported car. I like old subarus, new subarus, 00 altimas, vw's, mercs, jags...and I've received a truck load of criticism from mostly northern, rich or close to it, college boys who can buy new cars whenever they want. I have some friends that are too much of the ******* way- I try to be friends with everybody, and I've never heard complaining from them when I was driving the Subaru gl wagon. By the way, a nice feature about me, I don't defend myself only. Group of people that I don't belong to get pushed around and I defend them. See, I from Canada and I'm not exactly white. Not completely anyway. Just don't go assuming anything. There was one case where a dumbass on a message board called me white trash. Hahahaha. Prejudice imbecile.

 

***** cars are just not the way...It's kinda like putting lingerie on a fat chick. No matter how much you dress it up, it just doesn't look any better.

[This message has been edited by david roush (edited October 17, 2001).]

 

I'll give you the best damned reason why imports suck...because they're imports.

All this crap about "I'm American", "We're standing together", and then jumping into a Honda is the type of schitt I see every day and despise.

If you live here, stop buying products from the Japanese (at least when you know it's Japanese, some things are unavoidable) and thereby further increasing our trade deficit with them. They don't drive a buch of Chevys and the number of cars sold here by the Japanese is hardly made up for by our cars sold over there. Wanna know why? Because they want to prosper their own country and make money off of us. Because they are patriots, unlike many of us. So **** them.

Same goes for the other foreign cars one might buy, unless the company is owned in large part by one of the Big Three.

And let's have none of this "My Tacoma was built in the USA, so it gives Americans jobs". Well, whoopty ****ing do, if that damned Tacoma wasn't available here I'm sure GM would be more than happy to take over the plant and build S-10's, thereby preserving American jobs and bolstering an American company.

And since I've worked for a Japanese company, I know how things are on the inside and where the profits really go...hell, we even bought parts from the mother company in Japan at a 25% markup...from our OWN DAMNED COMPANY. Redistribution of wealth, period.

So, I'm not going to say anything about performance or reliability, but rather, provide you with an even better reason to despise imports and those who buy them. Loving themselves before the good of our country (which got them where they are today) and prospering foreign nations that were once, and may still be, the enemy.



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1990 IROC 350
Mods: Too busy trying to make it run right to mod it.
Airfoil, Dynomax cat-back, MSD coil, 180 t-stat, Bald Eagle tires,
Hypertech fan switch, Accel 23# injectors, Holley module, ported plenum,
Ported Daytona Yellow stock base, Moroso valve covers, other stuff,
Streetdampr, Ruger P95DC, hot wife, new oil filter, !cats, !TBC, !AIR.
18.0 @ 85MPH since I'm one big-a$$ MF
"It's better to have and not need than to need and not have."

 

And the Canadians are good, and are our neighbors (didn't want to include the sacred birthplace of the Camaro in my essay, and my brothers who drive and build them) .

 

And I'm not against world trade, but it needs to be balanced.

 

If Imports are the best, then why isn't John Force racing his Funny Car team with a bunch of V-TECS. Those are American made V-8s and there will never be a 4-cyl in that range. And all this import bashing, lets break it up, a Honda Civic is no Toyota Supra, as a matter of fact, our mid 80s V8 cars have more in common with a Supra than a Civic does. And all this my friend garbage, if we put it that way, the fastest car, 1/4mile wise, is a Nitro injected, Blown V8 on a tube frame running in the 4s. I don't see your friends CRX in this category. Most kids will compare someone elses car to mine, and then I bring up their car. They say that they know their car sucks, but my friend... All I say is that I have a friend with a Nova with a built 350, and a 20lb Procharger, he ran a 10.08 with bad traction a Lebanon Valley. This is truly a mid 9 second car, and is driven on the street. Most import lovers walk away after mentioning some of my other friends cars because the majority of the imports are not that fast. I've seen 600hp, AWD 3000gts get beat by my friends 2000 Ram Air auto mostly stock with a 4.5lb blower. My point is we could go on for the next 10 years about our friends, friends, friends car, like I have just shown or we could race OUR cars, and have fun like they did in the 60s.

 

I'll race you anyday of the week! My new motor will be pumping out 450hp before the supercharger The supercharger will add an additional 100-120hp To get any rice burner in the 10's or 11's as an everyday driver is not near as reliable or cost effecitve as purchasing a Thirdgen! I've seen so many rice burners with fart tips and have dumped Thousands into them..stickers, Stickers, STICKERS, and maybe some NOS...Twenty thousand later?? don't make a lot of sence to me. I guess if you could get one to run fast without spending and arma and a leg? that would make some sence to me. However, I do agree with you, A fast car is a fast car and that's OK But there is just a plethera of these rice burners with the fart tips that think they are fast, drive wreckless and drive like a bunch of *******s......I just hope you did not dump a whole lot of money into your civic! Nothing personal, I'm in mine for under 10 grand.

 

http://geijn.lagcity.com/gti/index.html

how does this link get ya?

 

I have seen just as many stripped domestics running 10-13 seconds on a not street legal car. and I have seen quite a few imports pulling 10-13 seconds being street legal

I admit that it does take more work for a car that does not have as many cyl. but then again that would mean you v8 guys are not that worthy of a car either.. there are v10 and v12's out there I can use.
I admit I dont care for the most common form of rice ( huge wings on a FWD car. big fart cans that are useless and stuff like that) but to say that all jap cars or all imports are worth sheit is one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard. I am sorry but will you guys who drive around and think you are all great cause you drive a v8 car that gulps gas ( few exceptions do apply ) get you head out of your a$$ and acknowledge that your car is not the best thing out there. I would much rather drive car with a smaller motor get good gas milage most all the time and then when it comes down to it turn up the boost and kick some guys *** then drive around get maybe 10-18 mpg all the time and kick some *** .

sorry guys but a lot of you just group everything together and say all imports suck cause of a few cars out there..

so does that mean that domestics suck cause of cars like the metro, pinto, fiesta, baretta, cavs, and those other damned things that drive around that are worth almost nothing in your guys eyes?

also as for the prev comment about a trade with japan. yes we might buy more goods then they do but do but they also go about putting a lot of money into our contry through stocks and other means of capital like buy land and stuff. so yes there is a deficit as far as products go but not through trade overall. it all has to balance out. for every one of our $$ they spend so much of there yen..

sorry for those of you who do respect cars out there import or not you guys are cool and I respect you as well. but those that just say oh hey it is an import and b/c hondas suck they all suck now please grow up and learn that just cause a honda might not be all that does not mean there are not good imports out there

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Got rotary?
header, intake, ported TB
soon to have 4.30 rear, ported intake(just need to intall)new catback,ported motor and lighter triangle

 

All I'm saying is to make a ***** go fast cost lots of cash and i got better things to spend my cash on! I have under 10 K in my Z28 including my new engine, I get 20mph and have over 430hp not including my supercharger! The only time i get poor gas mph is when my foot is in it, Totally street legal, and a sleeper at that! I love fast cars, even some *****'s but For the most part, most ricers suck! Mostly driven by punks with their hats on backwards, Stickers all over thier cars, Huge wings....and maybe they might run mid 14"s.....That is the majority of them and they all seem to have this illusion that they can run with the big dogs The only 12 second ***** i've seen was totally not street legal and I have only seen one.

 

And don't get me wrong, there are some good imports out there. I used to have a twin turbo 300Z and a 94rx7. Both of impressive potential as long as you don't pimp them out with Huge stickers Big tach Fart tip muffler accompained with atypical import attitude. RX7..I know you know what i mean, you don't seem to be one of these idiots.

 

just tired of all the lumping together saying oh damn it is an import so it must suck

I drive import and I stand by it all the way. I admit a lot of ppl get out of hand with them and I think it sux but please dont say all imports suck b/c of what a few do. I admit I only pull 15's in the quarter by no means am a real fast car. but I am not too far off from your stock V8's and I am running a 80cid motor that is almost stock against your 305. so who is it there that has a better motor? no replacement for displacement? yeah you put out more power. yeah you have a bigger motor. I make up for it with better gears, lighter car and a nice fat power band all the way up till I shift at 8-8.5k ( damn that shift point gets higher and higher ).

another thing for you guys who follow the bigger is better.
friend running the same 80cid motor (1.3L) with a BLOWN motor ran a 13.7 at 99.x. think he was pushing about 10-12 psi but again that was a blown motor. his compression was something like 70-70-65/65-70-30
you want timeslips or the vid I can show you also if you like.
I would like to see your cars run that low of a compression and run under 14 in the 1/4
oh yeah and as for arm and leg he might have put about 2000k into the car.
when the motor was good he would push mid 12's still pass emissions.

as for the fart cans yeah I think they are stupid, though I admit I am wanting to get a set of muffs for my car that are kinda large(3 inch tip with 2 1/2 inch piping), only reason I am doing it is due to the fact I am replacing my motor and going turbo and plan on putting a good size turbo in there with some porting. stickers? well i have one that says rx7 but that came from the factory. another that says mazda well same thing factory. yeah I have a wing... oh wait that came from the factory also. forgot I am sorry I do have 2 other stickers that will prolly not make it to the car but I have them.

so guy respect the fast ones, and those that are really trying. dont just clump us together saying oh sheit it is an import so it must be slow and it must suck. even if we are not the fastest thing ( like me ) atleast some of us really are trying just like you guys so what really makes you ??better.



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ICQ 4116192
AIM RXspeed87
Got rotary?
header, intake, ported TB
soon to have 4.30 rear, ported intake(just need to intall)new catback,ported motor and lighter triangle

 

must i remind you all that our very nice new 4th gens are form canada?

but anyways...not all imports are ****. theres imports, then theres rice. i owned a 77 280z. if i could i would trade in any camaro/firebird(with the exception of an ls1 or TTA) to have that car again. and have you seen the 350z's that are coming out next year? or who would turn down a porsche? cmon guys be more specific when you say you hate something.

i respect any import driver that pays with his own money, doesnt rice out the car, and knows what he is doin. i can even stand the fart can as long as you have the engine to go with it. just please stay away from the double spoiler and stickers...

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1995 Camaro
3.4 with 4L60E
Stock...for now

Currently being redone:

1988 Camaro
2.8 with T5
threw a rod...
Soon to have a 350 TPI out of an '85 vette...
http://www.nothingssafe.com

 

me go with double wings there?!?!?!?!

I think I would rather cut my ***** off and and tie my **** in knots

I mean I might get a little bit bigger of a wing but not some huge *** thing.. I mean at most mayb 3-4 inches off the top of my car and there is a stock one that is like that...

stickers??? hell no if anything I want to take the stock ones off my car. I like the clean look and also not many seem to know what kind of car I drive.

and as for modding the crap out of my car looks wise.. the body kit above. one with the old geezer. is the wildest one I would go with.

nothingssafe you had a 280z? aren't those things like tanks?

another thing I notice a lot of imports, atleast the older ones, are hard to break

 

Intersting article here: http://members.tripod.com/~juan_espero/engine.html I don't hate all imports, I just prefer my American cars... Ricers suck though. RX7's are nice cars, saw one with a V8 in it once, sounded mean!

 

I guess there really is no replacement for displacement is there.



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"Rice burners are like tampons...Every pu$$y has to have one"
'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
3" Hooker CatBack w/Aero Chamber muffler
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
160* Stat, just switched to 180* b/c of winter coming and going to college in the mts.
3:73 Posi
Rebuilt 700R4
B&M Megashifter, 5" Autometer Tach w/shift lite

 

I would also like to see the torque those motors made, and how easy it was to build each one. This is one reason that these Hondas will never pose a huge threat.

 

I just read that page. Imagine if they had spent as much money on the buick. After owning a RX-7, cost of modification is the MAIN reason I bought my thirdgen. I remember once paying 20 bucks for a castle nut from Mazda that had a very strange thread. No parts stores had anything close. My TOTAL investment into my thirdgen right now is $3300 w/ a trans rebuild. Ive been driving the car for 2 years now and its running better than ever.
peace

 

I hope that guy was excommunicated for taking out the rotary engine... I have to give Mazda props for the rotary, it is still an amazing engine... V8 in an Rx7? Thats just plain immoral.

 

As far as the import motor compared to the 350's and the bigger is better sydrome; The smaller motors are much more limited that the v8's. Forinstance, the honda that ran hi 12's at Bermerton, Not streetable! and at it's max potential or close to it! You can easily have an 11 or even 10 sec. 1/4 mile car with a car such as a third gen by doing a mild build up and blower and the best part is it can be an everyday driver. You can't do that with an import with out breaking the bank! And to get an import to run 10-11 in the 1/4 and to be streetable, I've never seen one but i do see many thirdgen's and Rustangs runnig these numbers and they are very streetable!

 

granted a smaller motor has to work a little more to get there but it can be done. we start out with a lighter car and sometimes better gearing which will help with the smaller motor.a turbo helps also

and with imports running into the 10-11's and not bein streetable I have seen the same thing with domestics.
I am seeing a lot of stripped domestics with anything from a 305 up to a 454 and still only pull a 12 second run.

we all have ppl who do it good and those who do it bad

just dont put us all together.

and as for the guy who put the v8 in a rx7 what the hell was he thinking.... that is like taking the soul of the car

though I am wanting to grab a first gen rx7 and put a 400SBC wih a 327 crank in one

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ICQ 4116192
AIM RXspeed87
Got rotary?
header, intake, ported TB
soon to have 4.30 rear, ported intake(just need to intall)new catback,ported motor and lighter triangle

 

I agree, v8 in a rx7 poor choice. i miss my rx7! some punk stole it and wrecked it My 300Z, we had a turential down poor and i hit a puddle, the front end went in too deep and SLURP sucked in a S H # $ load of water and destroyed the engine....totaled!

 

Some of you guys arent getting the reason why I made this post. I am not here to anyway bash on domestics. I have a thirdgen in fact this is my second one. I also have imports too. I just want alot of you guys to realize there is more to the import scene then the ***** high school kids that you may see

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92 honda civic
w/95 gsr a hell of a lot of bolt ons and a 75hp shot
86 Trans Am (in progress) w/383 stroker
turbo 400 thats it so far shooting for 10's

 

The problem with the imports (why are they called rice burners?) is that they are they are ugly, they sound like farts (in some cases more like excited insects), and they are ugly. I also think that the idea that some people would actually find that cool disturbs me. But I guess some people find joy in trucks as well.

I like american V-8s because of the torque, the sound, and the fact that they are long-life motors--they turn fairly low RPMs most of the time.

I dislike the smallness of import engines. Specific output is important only if it also represents absolute performance. A motor that makes 50hp from 2 cubic inches is still making 50hp. I also dislike that people put loud mufflers on their ricers--it offends me to hear it--its like having to see fat people. Do they not realize that it sounds like their car is farting every time they accelerate?

To me, an import engines are like an anti-V8, in terms of everything I like about our engines.

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91 formula WS6 305 tpi, true dual exhaust

 

Wonder if this is a fad, like wearing the latest shoes, listening to the popular "in" music.. hrm.. perhaps

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No License, No Hope.

FILTERCHARGED BABY

 

I'm sorry but I find that long life thing about domestics kinda funny
if you are trying to say that an import can not be a long life motor I would have to say you are mistaken.
I have owned both domestics and imports both driven hard so far the camaro had the worst time out of all them

my 78 celica has 248k miles on it. ran it for a month on with nothing in the cooling system during the winter. if it has more then 3 quarts of oil in it that is a wonder. I rev to the redline everytime I drive it if not higher then the redline. I try to wreck the bastard and it is still kicking to this day.

the 87rx7 n/a 170k. so what my tranny is going bad. how many times can you honestly dump the clutch on your car at 7000rpms without the tranny going bad. redline at 7k shift point depending on how I feel 7500-9000. I am always racing the bastard on the streets or doing auto-x still kicking and pulling better then stock times on the 1/4 and 0-60. would not be shocked if I have another few 10k miles left on the motor.

yeah so you might beat me in the 1/4 is that the only use of a car? so far I am hanging with most of your stock thirdgen v8 cars. so I might only put out 140-160hp and 130-150ft/lbs at the eccentric shaft. are peak numbers all you are going to look at? would you take in the fact that I make that through a very wide rpm range and have stock 4.1 gears with a car that is at around 2600 lbs.

I still say you guys make good peak numbers damn I will not deny that at all, as well as you have the ability to make more hp. but that does not mean he little motors some of us drive are not that great. and also from what I have seen many imports can turn hella good.

not trying to make you like imports I could care less if you like them or not, I am just tired of everyone putting them down b/c they have a small motor or b/c they are not from america, putting us in with all your riceboys out there with big fart cans and huge A$$ wings. just b/c some ppl do that does not mean we all do. I dont go around saying you guys suck cause some guy I see driving around in a mustang has clear tail lights, 3 wings, and a bigger fart can then I see on most honduhs.
if you are going to say we are not worthy give some decent reason not just something that lacks thought. yeah so what are motors are small does that mean we can not go fast? I would much rather drive my little 80cid motor then go fill up at the tank every 2 days like I did in the camaro.

but again to each there own. I love imports and domestics as long as they are done right. even if they are not the fastest 1/4 mile car I still give some respect cause I have seen what they do in the turns. we each have our own strong points and weakness.
welp off I go... few friends are here. we are going out to have a little fun with the cars

damn going to get my *** handed to me by the fricken miata again... and dont laugh he is pulling 11.2 with that damn turbo of his

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AIM RXspeed87
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header, intake, ported TB
soon to have 4.30 rear, ported intake(just need to intall)new catback,ported motor and lighter triangle

 

RX7speed, If you are referencing my coment on the longevity of the ricers, I was refering to the highly modified not the everyday drivers. I agree that the ricers when not modified are an extremely dependable vehicle. I had almost 200K on my 300Z and it drove like the day i drove it off the lot brand new! I miss that car, I was going to put a new engine and pump up the turbo's but the cost was a bit too much.

 

So you think your Civic can beat most
Third-Gens? Well sure if they are running a 305 in their car and cant drive worth a crap. But actually I do have a 305 and can drive and later on I am going to drop a 383 in that sweet ride. I am going to heavily mod my car out. Its a 92 Camaro RS. I am going to turn it into a 410 HP machine. Besides I go out on the strip and race Hondas all night.

 

I am sorry lowstyle but if you think I am driving a civic I find that kinda funny. I would not try to get a civic to be afast car. I like them as a good family car but I would not do much else with it. that is kinda funny that you would even say that. you either are not listening to a words I am saying. read before you speak.

though 410hp out of your car would be nice. I should be close to about 500hp at 400+ ft/lbs of tq on a 1.3L motor.
just need the fricken motor to come in and well a new turbo. got rid of the other one.


but yeah my car is running with the stock 305's right now without a turbo. you think it is b/c the owner can't drive? ok you must not know that much about cars then I take it. that or you are so full of v8 up your A$$ that you dont respect another car out there just cause it has a smaller motor.
lighter car, better power to wieght. wider power band and better gearing.
so again before you open your mouth read what is said and know your cars a little better.

sorry bout that craiger just not in a good mood and I was venting. tired of all this **** with ppl saying that imports suck for some stupid *** reasons.

 

no worries rx7speed, what year is you rx?