I was checkin out a Car 'N Driver (or Motortrend-can't remember) and they had a 500hp VW Beetle in there. No stickers-nothin to make it look "fast". How smooth would it be to pull up next to somebody in that? Granted you'd look like a fool initially, but not after you totally destroyed them. I'm a total small block chevy lover-but somethin in me would love to have that

 

Best sleeper i've ever seen was a late 80's nissan pulsar that was quiet as could be, but it packed RWD, a 350, and ran 12's on motor! I saw it myself!

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88 Camaro (The mighty LO3 SC!)
305TBI/700R4/2.73/123,XXX miles
14" Open Element and Flowmaster 80 seires

Next up: headers and gears

 

i thinkthe funniest not a sleeper i ever saw was at englishtown years ago. there was a guy the put a big stoker small block into a yugo. it was wild as hell to watch, just picked up the front and went. not the most stable thing in the world, but definately different.
i hope to have a great sleeper soon, i am working on a turbo project for my **** brown 1984 chevy cavalier 4 door. the turbo will be nice and quit when i go import hunting

later
tim

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grand national baby

 

At a car craft event in the summer, some guy dropped a turbo 3.8 into a cutlass ciera wagon. It ran 12.30's at 111 on snow tires. I would love to line up with a C5 in that thing.

 

Anybody with any knowledge knows a Grand National is not a sleeper. A sleeper is a 70s Caprice, Crown Vic, Caddy, LTD, or other luxury-type sedan that is made to eb fast as hell but it's not obvious until you're looking at the tailights. Not what I like, but some people do.

 

Some guy at local track had a van, kinda like one of the VW ones with a sbc, doin wheelies and some pretty decent times, i laughed every time i saw it.

 

I got one for ya,
79 olds delta 88 4 door
66 olds 400 (out of 442)
holley 750
turbo 400 trans
duals on cast manifolds
body rusted through w/ duct tape patches
Krylon black spray paint
2.5% black window tint

Im not sure what it runs (its never been to the track) but it moves like hell. Its my friends car and he loves to pick fights with imports.
peace

 

77 olds 98 with rebuilt 455, holley 750, single exhaust, gutted cat, turbo muffler, stock air cleaner w/gutted back near distributor(out of sight partial open element), pst front end kit, turbo 400, 12 in discs, peeling vinyl top, drooping headliner, green w/ green vinyl, rusted to hell, planted your @ss in the seat like you wouldn't believe.

 

I used to run around in a 1979 Pontiac LeMans Wagon. (think Chevy Malibu) It had a 350 and we ended up bolting a Holley double-pumper to it. (I got the Holley off of a friend) The exhaust was so beat up that we could just unplug the cat from the collector, and go to town.
It was stupid fast and at WFO, would leave a black smoke trail like an F-4 Phantom on afterburner.
Great fun, wish I still had it.

 

My friends 79 Plymouth Volare station wagon is a pretty mean sleeper.

It has...

225 Inline S<x>lant 6
Mopar Performance Cam
3.70 Gears
Hyper-pak 4-barrel Intake
Holley 4-barrel (??? cfm)
Solid Lifters
1.6 roller rockers
Built head with Chevy Valves
Milled/Ported/Polished
3-speed Auto
3000 rpm TC
Lots of weight loss
Lots of other tricks I didn't help out with.

If you have any more questions about what we've done with it just ask, I didn't feel like listing everything.

We did most of this work at his Garage, and let me tell you...this car used to run 19s, now it's into the high 14s. I'm impressed.

It's still got the factory blue color, stock looking motor, and it even has the stock 14 inch steel wheels with the cheapest stock hubcaps.

-Todd-

 

Here you go. This is the ultimate sleeper. A 10 second K-car... http://www.thedodgegarage.com/

 

OMG a Volare... those things are horrible....
(speaking from others experience)

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88 Camaro (The mighty LO3 SC!)
305TBI/700R4/2.73/123,XXX miles
14" Open Element and Flowmaster 80 seires

Next up: headers and gears

 

Yah, but if they're under 25 I've found that 90% don't know what a GN or GNX even is. One of my friends nearly tripped out when I busted a U-ey to turn around and catch a GN to ask to take pictures of his engine. My friend was like "WTF" and I was like "You see that car right there? That is one bad *** car...chances are it'll smoke your Z" He was all like "Chit, ain't no way that car can smoke my Z" so I pulled up next to the guy and asked him what he ran and he busted out w/ "11.8 but I need a little tuning" and my friend nearly threw up. Anyways....a GN would be a good sleeper for the ricers.

 

I've got a sleeper for you.

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*daily driver* '88 Firebird
-TPI 350, cat-back, cold air, 125 shot, 13.64@102
*sleeper* '70 Nova
-Motown 427 (race prepped by Bill Mitchell), mini ram, 2 stage N2O, 3100lbs, runs 8.40's all day, street legal (to a cops untrained eye).

 

check out this link and that is the answer to the topic question..http://webpages.krausonline.com/spaul/index.html

 

The mini-van wins hands down. There are quite a few 500 hp VW's out there believe it or not. I built a pretty serious VW. It was my first project car.

But the mini-van, come on, a 12 second minivan. That's absolutely nuts.

 

this is the link to it spanking a 4th gen Z28,...
http://webpages.krausonline.com/spaul/pauls_van.mpg

 

Dodge Diplomat

 

I knew the dodge 2.2 turbo would get into here. Too bad my 88 daytona shelby would be lucky to get into the 15s all stock. 12 sec car with full interior built up though. $7,000 to go mid 12s with FWD, 5 speed/12 way power seats, ugly looking old car no one seems to car about. I think i'd rather go 12s or 11s in my 3rd gen one day. It keeps begging me to hook it up. Damn turbos, good thing I can only drive it a few months of the year when i'm not in college.

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14.62@96mph headers, muffler, chip, ghetto stuff, duct tape
89 GTA 305 TPI 5 speed 3.42 gears

 

WHEN i get my S-10 4x4, im gonna make it a sleeper. hehe,

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- David
88' GTA 5.7L TPI MODS---&gt; air foil, K&N, Shift Kit, 180* therm, TB bypass, Gutted CAT, Flowmaster 80 Series

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