Ok heres the story, after I got up this morning I looked at the paper , and guess what was on the cover , street racing . SO i read the artice , it was really funny they covered this mexican guy named miguel or something and his car he "affectionatly calles Suzzanne". Heres a little section that made me laugh espically hard.

"Madlangbaya races his $28,600 prelude. His goal is to nake a quarter mile in 12 seconds. Now he makes it in a average of 14.9 to 15.4 seconds traveling at a average speed of 94 mph.
He said every car is aware of their competition. For instance, the Ecipse V-6 is competition to his prelude"


hahahahahh that straight out of the paper. anyone elce think 28 k is alot to spend for a 15 second car.


nate

 

hell yeah, and preludes go alot faster than that on a 1/4 mile. Unless he has a 1994 or something.

 

rice is just hilarious, i dont see why anyone wastes there money, a fast ***** is in the 14 second range most are running 16-20's

 

what?!
Yeah thats why Tanabe's ***** Civic can do 1/4 in 9.74....
I dont wanna offend anyone here, but I hate old cars such as Mustangs and Camaros. They are just ugly to me, the designs suck. Only good mustangs are the 90's cobras. I hate camaros just because they look ugly. Almost all US cars suck, which is just my opinion.

 

Yes, drive my car , and then drive a import and you can then tell me wich car sucks.

Nate

 

Its just my opinion, Im seen some cool Mustangs, and yes most of them are fast and could whoop up on some imports, but that doesnt change my opinion of them sucking.

 

sure theres 9 second rice, but with completly fiberglass 1,000 pound cars, with huge turbos, and superchargers and huge shots of NOS. they cant go fast without these crutches. now giving those same specs on some american iron and that will spank a rice anyday, now matter how you look at it as the wise old hottrodder says,..."theres no replacement for displacement"

 

I really don't care, but you're gonna get flamed on every post here if you carry an attitude like this... sounds like you don't even like thirdgens. The point of this post is how much money it takes to make imports fast not whether they can do 9's and what not. I suggest you try to be of actual use on this board or stay on your side of the tracks, these boards are not for staging "gang wars".

 

really people
can't we all just get along...

*NO!!!*
ok, then lets get it on
hahahah

 

Every1 has an opinion (even if its not correct ) but u shouldn't come here (VTEC) on another cars board and say BS like that. All we said is that it was stupid to do something like that, but if some1 wants to spend lots of $$ and has it, let him, it doesn't matter because there will never be an import that can match the fastest domestic V8 anyway, or even do it as easily.

If u were the guy with the bigger engine that can go fast and was built for it, u would say the same thing about the crazy dudes with econo cars doing almost anything possible and spending crazy $$ to try and match slower V8's, and when they do match the quicker 1's, u can't drive them on the street and only on the track while the V8 can be driven and then made even faster. It doesn't make much sense. I also wouldn't talk about ANY MuscleCars looks if u are a *****, LOL.

 

Also VTEC, what is all that BS about in the Who would win?!?" post?? Why do u come here?? I'll tell u why and why u are asking Third Gen owners such stupid questions. Its because u wanted to get that reaction out of some1 (which u knew was coming, like we know about imports) so u could cause that kind of post. The M*****g, Import, and whatever kindofcar guys that are here and don't do that stuff get along and post together with every1, just because some1 says something doesn't mean thats the opinion of every1. This is a Third Gen board, if u aren't here to learn or discuss something on topic, don't start BS and just don't come here, before u really can't post here.

 

If I spent anything over $5000 and was only running 15's I'd shoot myself.

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first off, saying a prelude is a whole lot faster thn mid 14's is a load, considering honda's data, which by the way assumes full traction nd no driver error, a brand new s2000 only turns 14.2, with 45 more horse and less weight. as for your integra, the 2000 gsr can't break 15.6, and that is the 170 horse ivtec, not your little pocket snail. considering the older eclipse/talon/lasers were faster than the new ones, and the new ones caan barely mange 15.1, which is faster than your rs, id say tt the laser would destroy you buy 6-7 car lengths. oh and any import driver should know that 100k miles is nothing on a jap 4 banger. get over the fact that your 16.5 second car (if it's a six speed) cost you more than 6 times what my high 13 second camaro cost me, and leave our post. oh and for a guy who accuses everyone else of being a hick, you sure say "yall" lot. by the way, im from la, nd even the import drivers here would laugh you off the street if you tried to line up to mildly modded talon, or even a del sol, and most of them won't race a camaro. and as for hating muscle cars, theyre called that for a reason. even the least respectful import drivers here will admire a nice GTO or stng, or chevelle. your integra, wouldn't get a second look, especially if it's stock. my bright yellow camaro with the 1000 watts and 3 inch exhaust gets respect from everyone except people drivin vipers or vettes. your nondescript, ambiguous, and thoroughly anonymous integra wouldnt get yyou a girl here, but youre from a backwater texas town i bet, and anything that is shiny will probably nete you you're second cousin. just my two cents

 

I don't think Japanese auto makes think that US cars suck. They have been copying US models ever since they first started shipping them over here. Back in the early 70s when the Celica was first thrown over here, it was deemed "miniture mustang" and Toyota basically took a ford mustang and made it slightly smaller. And when we look at the new Civics, there's a funny resemblence to the '99-present ford focus. Hmmmm....US cars suck? Japan doesn't think so.

 

Oh nooooo....not on MY board, you don't, Mr. VTEC!

1. Rice with no money spent on it looks like a family car. The older, the crappier. (Remember the 80's Honda's, Acura's...anything???)

2. Rice with money spent looks like a fast car that is still slow

3. Rice with LOTS of money spent looks like a rediculous car that is STILL slow

4. Rice with money that is actually spent on performance is routinely a 15 second car at best.

Let's review the post up on Camaros

1. Camaro's with no money spent on it looks like a beautiful sports car. The older, the more saught after. (First Gens, baby!)

2. Camaro's with money spent still looks like the beautiful car it was when it came off the showroom floor, yet faster

3. Camaro's with LOTS of money spent still looks like a beautiful stocker that is a LOT faster yet!

4. Camaro's with money left over is actually spent on making the beauty looks as fast as it really is!

Take an IROC vs. a Prelude or whatever. Drop 5k in both and see who is faster. Sure, you may be able to do some port work on your head, add a header, put a 25 shot of NOS, exhaust, coffee can, single racing stripe and rediculous body kit, but I still think a blown 383 would whoop up just a little bit!

 

Hey VTEC:


Why are you here riceboy? This is a thirdgen board. I don't go wasteing my time talking sh*t on rice boards. You're talking about looks when you like rice? Funny how ricers always pull the extreme example when you say that the majority of imports are slow. How stretable is that civic? I know two guys with 4th gen camaros that run low 10 second times, are driven every day, and... uh oh... here's the rice boy arguement: they get 20+ mpg. Try doing that with your civic. You want extreme examples, there's a couple of guys I know that have an 8 sec Chevelle, and they haven't even maxed it's potential yet. I'll bet they spent less money than your 9 sec civic too.


I agree with almost everything you said, but Dallas is a big-*** city, anddon't knock Texas. It's the best state there is.

 

Come on VTEC, you and I know that 90% of the cars on this board will kill you in a race. Most people who race imports will tell you the same thing. Turn on ESPN and look at the times our american powered drag racers are running. John Force runs a 4.9-5.0 1/4 mile...You admit yourself a full blown, ***** out, race trim ***** runs a 9 second 1/4. Come on now, what are you thinking comming here at all? If you dont like our cars dont waste our time! Leave!
Id like to see what that prelude looks like. If he spent 28 large and it still runs high 14's?!?! Most of our cars will run that stock. You could pick up a 350 IROC in good shape for 6,000. But sure, those imports are pretty cool .
peace

 

LMAO @ mcconahay37


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Your opinion is biased because you drive an import. I paid under $5,500 for my best et (including the car), pretty damn good if you ask me. Third gen F-body's will always be known as one of the most easily modified cars, and dollar to dollar they are hard to beat on the street. If you gave most guys on this board $28,000, they would show you an 8 second car. How many imports can you say that about???


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[This message has been edited by Brad_Altec (edited October 29, 2001).]

 

At me or with me ?

 

yah VTEC why are you here

if you dont even like our cars then just go to a ***** board or even a mustang board since you seem to like them better than camaros.....so just leave b4 you start to really **** people off

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https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/000695.html

Matt, go there. That should explain why he is here. But be warned, this guy has the worst mouth I've ever seen.

He might call us rednecks because we live in Indiana, better be careful. Actually just ignore him.

-Todd-

 

If you gave me $ 28,000 I would not spend it on a (single) car

 

VTEC,

You posted "who would win" and got everyone pissed off! In your defense, you did get a bunch of smartas$ remarks,however, you did get some genuine posts off of that subject. You lashed out at the ones who were being a-holes to you.Then you appoligized, and yet, here Pissing everyone off again, calling our cars ugly? What is up with that? I think the ***** cars with the huge modified front ends, ground effects look UGLY as HE doubble toothpicks! Plus, they are slow as He**! Fellow borthers, don't hate me for this, but i do like some of the STOCK imports, Until they are modified and pimped out Listen, Everone has a right to thier own oppion, But you don't see us Camaro, mustang, Firbird/TA guys on the ***** boards calling your cars ugly! If ya want to call us rednecks, our cars ugly, do it on your own board and just leave!

 

I titally agreewith you on the import thing. There is this sweet accord at my school , its basically stock , just has like a bra that covers it nicly and makes the front end look nice ,and some decent rims (nothing too fancy) .

its just when they put lame stuff on them, then the cars look lame . I mean put that junk on any car and it looks like trash.

nate

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Make it stop. I can't stop laughing at that picture.

 

CHIPS!! man im cracking up at that picture

 

Man, vtec, your a straight up jacka$$.. but I hate to say it... everyone on this board has such a false pretense about how great their cars are. i'd venture enough to say that about 3% of the cars on this board are actually nice. the other 97% ? complete and utter trash. It may just be personal taste, but I'd rather own a 1.6l civic that has working AC, doesn't smoke when you start it, no primer or body parts falling off; than an 82 camaro SC that is a complete piece of trash. not meaning to point fingers or single cars out, but come on. I can almost gurantee the reason that you people hate 'ricers' or other imports is because you can't afford them, and be will stuck driving a $1500 rust bucket for the rest of your life- and you know it. And, as far as imports with a lot of money in them not beign fast. let's look into the wonderful world of supras, rx7s, and 300zx TTs again. Time and time again. the same arguments on this board, about how someone's 305 tbi can beat a civic. woop dee do. you have a 5.0 liter that makes 150hp, they have a 1.6l that makes 120... I see something wrong, don't you ?

So, why don't you all just shut the f*ck up with all the ***** bull****. It is REALLY getting old.

And before you all start attacking me on my 'true colors thirdgen-ness'; take a look at my GTA. I love it to death. just as much as I love my 97 Supra Twin turbo. and Just as much as I love my yamaha R6 bike. but guess what, out of the years of work into my gta to get it into 12s, it's still just barely faster than my pretty much stock Supra. So much for slow ricers, ehh?

.... bring forth the flames ....

-Ben

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[This message has been edited by Ben87GTA (edited October 31, 2001).]

 

Looks like they have the advantage, though, look how much they weigh compared to Camaros.



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T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
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um.....we don't want him



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I agree with dan87gta,I love my '84 TA wich is trailor trashmobile but rock solid,and my finacial burden (high insurance) '93 3000GT SL is nice too,sure it's rice but "porked fried rice" a 190hp 50ho does the job but a non turbo 218hp V6 is quite nice too,a pita to work on,but somehow keeps up with mustang GTs,some f-bodies,and anialates fellow "ricers". you don't need a $27,000 dollar car to have working a/c,who said that anyways? does any one read these things? where am I?

 

No. The reason I hate ricers is that they have small-displacement engines with no torque, I don't like how they look, and I don't like the sound. My car isn't the nicest. Hell, it doesn't even run right now, but it's decent. Before the engine got f**ked, the AC and heater worked (still works), paint, body, and interior are good. It didn't leak or smoke on start-up. I got 21 mpg without an overdrive transmission. Not too bad if you ask me.
You're right that I can't afford a newer car. If I could, I'd probably be driving a 4th gen Z-28 or a really nice IROC. As it is, I'm going to Texas A&M and studying mechanical engineering, so that when I get my degree, I won't have to worry about money. You have no right to criticize others YOU HAVE NEVER F**KING MET because you have no clue what their situation is. All the time ricers or people getting something they own criticized just say, "Well you're just jealous" or something to that extent. Wake the f**k up!

 

Is there something wrong with you? Camaros, firebirds and the shelby GT500s (only mustangs I like) are some of the most beautiful cars ever produced. True, some muscle cars, ferraris, corvettes, vipers, lamborghinis, astons, and other VERY expensive cars are better looking, but there are not very many of those cars around. Our cars are incredible, and for $16,000-$35,000, ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE.

I think most people on this board would be hard pressed to not be able to find at least one year model from EACH GENERATION of f-bodies that you can just look at in awe.

Seriously, if you really think that civics, integras (I think integras least offensive of the imports), eclipses, and all the others actually look good, you may have some sort of mental problem. Personally, I would suggest seeing a psychiatrist or something. Maybe you should meditate on it.

Furthermore, it would not be unreasonable if you were banned from this whole site for such blasphemy.

F-bodies ugly! What a joke.

 

Really? I have always heard that about that about fox-body mustangs, but never about our cars. I have a 91 formula WS6 with a 305 tpi. I just wanted to change the spark plugs, couldn't get my hands in there at all, ended up taking off (and cutting off some--couldn't get a wrench/socket in there) the AIR tubes, figured there way no way I was putting them back on and taking them off again the next weekend to put my headers on, and ended up changing out my whole exhaust.

There is so little room under my hood. But, wait. Maybe you didn't mean easiest to work on. Mustangs may be, though: My brother's friend has a 93 GT and there is plenty of room under his hood. OH WELL, IT'S UGLY; MINE'S BEAUTIFUL.

 

Yeah, having to hear that fart sound and having to see those stupid body panels offends me. It like having to see a ford focus or toyota echo or--even worse--a pontiac aztech. Seriously, V8s aren't just cool because they are fast (in a lot of cases), they sound great.