Do you guys get the handful of guys that seem to push your buttons when your out driving somewhere and the try to pick a race..but you have better things to do and not enough time?

Well here I am this morning fighting off a lingering headache..woke up late to help a buddy start moving to a new garage and Im getting coffees for everyone.Im leaving the drive through line pulling onto the main street and I notice a convertible talon making his way to get right under my ***. Whatever i figure its a lil kid driving hard for no reason..been there and done that too. I pull onto the street nice and calm and hit the first red set of lights...then it floors it onto the street and pulls up right beside me....then a rev is tossed with the stare over in my direction.

I commented Im really not in the mood but if you insist..you will learn today! this kid laughed stating his talon is boosted blah blah transams are just prey etc.I said nothing and waited for green..hit takes the hit and I launch half pedal.His car mustve been stock or lightly modded because for the lengths he deserved ..got my frustrations out some. Halfway through first I matted the pedal and best i can say is slingshot past him...power shifted 2nd and all i saw was his shiny purple talon bust a become a dot in the rearview and turn on the nearest street.I only shut down just after hitting 3rd and by then i think he knew he was way out of his league.This week has been filled with guys in small cars with big mouths getting under my skin..I pumped a cobalt and wrx that were playing on the street a few days ago and i stomped on their parade after being called a turdgen.My car might look like a turd..but it makes others **** bricks and retract statements..you never know whats under someones hood and i dont call someone out unless i think it is a close drivers race or playing around with close friends for the fun of it.I learned not to judge someones car based on just what i see.Ahh kids these days...

 

Haha thats a funny story. Thats happened to me a couple of times.

Not too long ago I was on the way to take my SAT at 6:10ish in the morning. I had just stopped at McDonalds to grab breakfast when I see a 90's bmw with BRIGHT blue halos riding my bumper very close. After riding my bumper and revving his bimmer. After about half of a mile he got next to me. I was simply not in the mood at all. I had about 2 hours of sleep, its 6:10 am, plus I had a soda between my legs(no cup holders). I wanted him to hop off so I slowed down to 20ish mph with him beside me, I opened the cutout, and stomped on the throttle. The z28 downshifted to first and took off. The kid didn't know what hit him.

And then there was the time I took my aunt out for a ride and some kid in a Genesis wanted to race. He kept passing my car and slowing down over and over. I tried my hardest to ignore him, plus my aunt didn't understand what was going on. I never raced him, but it was just awkward.

As far as your kids these days statement. I can agree but not all of us. I don't ever run my mouth. Some people are crazy these days, one of my buddies had a gun pulled on him for criticizing the guy's car. It's just not worth it. Plus if you've got time and effort put into your ride, I'm not gonna disrespect it. No matter what setup your running.

 

lol i hear ya. I am so glad for the lS swaps. Everyone thinks you got a crappy sbc under the hood.

If it aint LS it aint ****

 

Not all kids run crap out the mouth but alot of them do...the main reason alot of them can is because most cars come from the factory making more horsepower than we could wish for when we started building our 3rdgens.but also..most cant even handle a stock car with that same power..or less and get beaten by the older..less powered car with better driver.Im usually pretty humble.. i respect anything you put your hard time into..i dont knock it.When it comes to racing..ill give my honest opinion on 2 factors..driver and car and state who i think will win and why.if im wrong..i can admit it..if i loose i accept it(for the most part lol)

 

Followed by...

You can say that again...

 

^ HAHAHA.. Another word for a Donkey is.

WOW, How could you go through the trouble of swapping in a 6 liter LSX into a Thirdgen, and only be running 13's.. Ive seen 305's without boost run faster. And not run there mouth.

 

To answer my own question. Its most likely a person that would put IROC decals on the door of a RS..

 

I was thinking the same, but I didn't want to go there... I have had way to many cars try to run me that just weren't worth it... I only race what I feel to be a fair contender... I smoked a guy with his prom date in a C5 a few years ago...

Then just recently when I was home on leave I beat a supercharged 350z who said he ran a 13.2 with an open diff on his first pass. He said he couldn't make anymore because someone crashed and got fluids all over the track. The 350z was a good race for my tune being way off and having shitty gear in the back.

 

I worked a night shift and was going into work one night. Im in 5th gear chugging along and a fox body pulls up and gives some revs my way at 40mph so I just laid into it some and stayed with him (no shifting at all stayed in 5th). Then comes a red light and he pulls up and yells out in the best ******* accent ever "wht you go in dare" I reply "just a 383 LT4" to hear from him "you know what a 5.0 is cause im about to show you"

So I reached over armed the nitrous (150 shot) and sat there as the light turned green I hit it 1st 2nd 3rd and let off I could barely see his lights and he would not come near my car again.

At the time the car was running consistant 7.2 1/8th mile at 96



I cant wait to get my new motor in and running because it will be a real sleeper smooth idle quiet exhaust untill the boost kicks in and hello 14 psi LS3

 

O yeah I will always keep the car labeled as a RS

 

^ LMAO!

 

I dont know why ******* is bleeped lets just say dark shade of pink between shoulder and head

 

I didnt run my mouth or go picking on other cars.And i ran 13's in my old car for the sake of a bad rearend and failing clutch with my 3 12' sub box in the trunk.I wasnt going to run that day at all but my friends wanted to see what it still might do.And if I did break the car that day i was in no position to tow my car 2hrs away back home.I had very soft launches and still made 112mph 13s passes at my elevation.

And trust me my current car runs harder with the same 6.0 in the current chassis setup where i dont have to be easy out of the hole.But thanks anyways..ive seen 305s do 11s..ive seen guys in 2013 mustang gt's run mid 14s,doesnt prove anything.i could careless what you run and how you got down the strip so long as your happy with your ride..dont break..its just a piece of paper and a time stamp.i went there..i made a few maiden passes..had my fun and drove home.

 

we also dont have half of all that saftey crap and are about 1000lbs lighter than the new mustangs

 

lol my car is sitting around 3900lbs..maybe more with what i got in it.havent weighed this one yet but when i hit the track this summer the sub box/amp rack will be out and my spare gta wheels and some dr's on the back should make a more respectable et.i due for a retune tomorrow from swapping heads aswell.I didnt like how the car performed on the bottom end with the 9.5:1 compression and the cam.im also swithching dynos..i think the previous dyno i was on was too generous at the time for a cam only lq4

 

cam only you shoudl be where youre at the LS motors respond alot from just a cam hell a lq4 ls3 heads and good cam will make 450 easy

have you actually weighed your car mine with me and a full tank with my old motor was 3250

 

Was not referring to you..

 

i went super budget on my lq4. small cam and milled 243 heads ls6 intake.still stock manifolds though.when i was cam only in my other bird..the rear was in bad shape..and my ls7 clutch failed me twice on that track day which prompted me to really lay off the launches.

as for weight im basing it on what a gta supposedly weighs according to gta source page (we all know how reliable that site is) and that my heavy fibreglass box in the trunk makes the car squat!.Im light though only 170lbs lol

i wish i had gone ls3 topend but it wasnt in the budget,for now ill squeeze what i can from my cathedrals..i have mid length headers waiting to go on and do 3 inch y pipe delete my cats might help some.

 

Whats so great the 6.0 is it has 1000 times more potential than your stone age sbc.

Look at what the engine has to work with.. 2.73's, open diff, 2" exhaust, big *** flowmaster, ls1 intake, no tune .....

With proper exhaust, drive train, and tune i will be deep into the 12's without touching the engine. And still get 27mpg

 

You know whats great about my car... Its my car. I can put what ever sticker i want to put on it.

Lets see your car.

 

ok, Its in my Sig.

 

lol

 

THere you go. Its stone age allright. Every nut and bolt on car has been done.

 

I bet that thing runs very well tho.

 

Very nice and tastefully done Trans Am Gen X...!

 

So, what do you think?? Not a hacked up rust bucket at all. And 42K original miles. I showed you mine, Now show me youres.


BTW, Before anybody ask's. Yes, I have a Hawks Fiberglass Aerowing waiting to be put on. And the interior is tan and near mint.

 

runs well..sure.is it 100%..not yet but it will be.

and yes..one clean black t/a. ive been pondering the no wing look and certain angles i love it..and hate it lol.i like your suspension setup but that ride height is too high for me ..im sure it works well dialed in the way it is though.

 

Very nice car but its still being held back dramatically by the sbc. The same setup on a 6.0 would destroy that thing. Hell even a 4.8 would out perform it.

There is no arguing that a sbc is better than a lsx. Mod for mod its not even a race.

 

Dude. Nobody here is making that argument. Thanks for the education..

Id be more than happy to line up with you some time..

 

Its funny. Half the people tell me to leave it wingless. Half say it just dosent look right.

 

Appreciate that buddy

 

lol starting a whole other debate with that comment brando.it has gone back and forth on here with very good arguments having pros and cons to both. a sbc is still a good bang for the buck build with a good combination. and boost is just nasty on anything in my opinion..mainly since i dont know much about boosted setups :P

 

i had my wing off for 2 weeks and it eventually went back on.when the car is lowered and parked a few cars away.. i loved it. as i got close to it..just seemed naked haha

 

Maybe. But I built my car as a "period correct" build. That means if someone had this car in the early 90's and wanted the ultimate Thirdgen. This is how they would have done it. Same parts etc.. I want to do a 91/92 Z28 with a 6.0 LSX, AFR 200cc+ heads, 600 lift cam, AFR Intake and a Holley 750. That build would be all new tech. K-member, coilovers, 17/18" staggered wheels etc.

Regardless, I make a fool out of just about anything stoplight to stoplight. Regardless of Gen1,2,3,4, Rice, Euro trash, u name it!

 

You are right. Im sure with the boost that 350 is no turd and looks good doing it. my car has a lot holding it back but i have only had it for about a year and a half. I have big plans for it like everyone els on this forum has for there setup it will just take time and money. I just feel that the LS platform is a lot better to start out with and build on. At the same time genx probably has had his car for a while like a lot of people have and got too much invested to start over with a LS or he just has no desire to ever build one.

I am a die hard LS fan any more. When i go to car shows or events if it has a sbc it turns me off . But i do rank the L98 right under the LS, n/a they are not very impressive but with boost you get around the restrictive intake (looks damn good tho) and you can have a pretty budget friendly runner..

If i was to ever keep a sbc it would be a L98

 

Sorry, but I can't help but scratch my head here. Your ranking the L98 right under the LS? So does this put the 302 SBC above the LS by your logic, because the 302 SBC will do circles around the L98 SBC. As far as an NA L98 not being very impressive, why would it be? Have you literally seen the cylinder head internals that it came with (would you like to)? Have you ever pondered the cam specs that it came with? I am amazed at some of the members on here, as just because an engine has 350 cubic inches of displacement from the factory like the L98, it automatically "must" perform with engines made twenty years after the fact, regardless of the cam and heads that it came with, and if it doesn't, a new LS engine that comes with better heads and cam from the factory is somehow its' superior lol. Callaway L98 TPI's withstood the test of time, and will throw down with any UGR Lambo as of today's date, and that is saying a lot for a pathetic L98 from twenty years ago...

 

god that callaway is still a beast and a half lol.

 

Yes i do in my opinion it has more potential than all other sbc's. Yes the LT1 is superior to the L98 but for parts avalibility, looks, and no opti crap i will take a L98.

We are not talking in stock form here. I am aware of the factory crap they put on these things.

I was saying a LS is a way better platform to start with but at the same time some folks want to keep it looking era correct and some folks want to have something unique. (like your tt v6)

IN MY OPINION LS is the best.

 

I have to look that up btw i have never herd of it.

 

corvette sledgehammer! twin turbo l98 800+hp..254mph top speed. And people marvel over the veyron today..that vette was built mid 80s.but majority of the callaway vettes were the 400hp turbo tpi cars..comparable to the c4 zr1 performance wise iirc

 

Says the guy with a 13 second LS1 3rd gen...

 

I just did a LS swap for a guy its a 72 chevelle and it had a 383 SBC it ran rough and was built to the hilt heads cam intake carb headers everything was top end parts and it made roughly 450 with over 5k into the build and there was not much left to squeeze out of that motor with out having a 1500 rpm idle and zero drivability or a blower/turbo

We just droped a LQ4 Block LS3 heads L76 intake and just a cam it idles smooth as hell drives amazing and is pushing around 450 hp and the heads are as cast untouched so this motor has TONS more potential to make another couple hundred hp before having to overhaul the whole thing

when you can get 6 to 750 hp from a stock block its safe to say thats a superior motor and when the off the shelf as cast heads are flowing over 320 cfm intake (better than some BBC aftermarket heads and far better than AFRs best SBC ports) thats a superior motor and when the main caps have 6 bolts vs 2 or 4 and the caps are the full width of the block its a better motor


I am not ******* SBC hell its still GM and the SBC was kind for 50 plus years but GM did it again and The LSX platform is the new SBC (well the newest motor is the LT5)

 

If you never heard of that, You should spend some time in the historical section of TGO. And read up on the special edition cars, Firehawk, TTA, etc.. And you will also see how nice a well built stockers are when done right.. Boost + TPI Is the Shizznip!

 

Oh hellz yeah...

 

1st vid @ 2;25 in. It just walks. Awesome..

I love C4 Vettes, Second to Thirdgens. Not too long ago I sold my 1992 LT1 C4. It was cool, but needed way too much work. Didnt have time or $ then for it. I really would like to do another C4, but a 91 so it has the 2nd gen C4 look, but with an L98. And maybe try to copy a callaway. But now you can use better heads and better cam then they had then. My 3 fav cars are- Thirdgen T/A's, Camaros and C4 vettes.

 

I've had both and I can comfortably tell you that you put WAY too much faith into LSx motors. You're entitled to your opinion, though.

 

well just got back from my dyno retune..i got more than i wanted for stock manifolds..also found new issues and some i knew of before the pulls were made.my alternator crapped out above 4000rpm,i got misfires on 1 and 6,my old tpi 3 inch cold air intake is too restrictive..and my ls7 pressure plate is really making noise now.All said and done i just wanted to break 350whp and got 370/380.Ill have pics and vids in the ltx/lsx forums but once i fix these small snags..i see 12s in my future..or a broken stock rear lol

 

Awesome dude! Whats that up from? For some reason, everybody I know that goes to a Dyno says that they told them the intake piping is too restrictive.

 

I figured the intake pipe was too small..hell my old 383 didnt like it either lol.My previous numbers on the stock 317 heads were 307whp/323tq..I think my gains were worth the head swap alone for over 50whp increase and added 2 more degrees of timing for the compression bump.

 

Its a mean roll race car. The gears help with that and spinning isnt as big of an issue from a roll.

I dont think 13.2 is that bad with a open diff 2.73 with cheap tires. But that will all change in time.