Well sort of, it wasn't really a race but I just have to say wow to those cars. I was riding down the highway the other nite, when I see 2 cars flying up on me, I was like oh great some ricers. Well, the first car pulls even with me, so I look over and it's a Camaro. I didn't see dual exhaust, so I was like great a 6. As he edges slightly forward I see center exit pipes and the SS badging. He stayed even for a bit. I'm thinking yeah right, like I'm that dumb, your SS low 13s car and my hopefully low 14s car. Well, I guess he had enough and within a matter of a second he was gone, those cars really pull at high speeds. Then I guess his friend in a black 99or so SS follows him.

 

Thats to bad you didnt have Juice!!

Smoke him and let him hear the roar of the Hooker!!!!



If I ever get smoked, I hope its by a bad *** amercian car like that!

 

aww man all you need is a few more mods.. Half the time the people driving those new SS' are lucky to hit high 13's. I've taught a couple of them lessons from a stop. Not that I go around slaying SS' but there is that stock one here and there that needs to be put in their place.

 

There's one riding around here that says "335HP SS" on the license plate. I want a shot at him, but he's always going to opposite direction. I think you stand a better chance against one from a stop than you do from a roll.

 

I raced a 2001 Firehawk in my 1994 Trans Am GT. It was off the last intersection leaving town so we had plenty of road. I stayed with him until around 80mph and then he pulled hard. We pulled over and talked his car was dead stock. I talked him into going to the 1/4 the next night. I ran a 13.97 and he ran a 13.23.

 

You're definitely right about the from a stop thing Nic, but those SS's can run 12s from the factory.

 

Even Muscle mustangs got a stock '01 SS to 12.9....

 

Yep, they sure did. When I mentioned it on here a few months ago a couple people tried to call B.S. on me

 

ya I saw something about that..and I also thought I saw something in a magazine getting a 2002 to hit a 12.7. If that's true..that's dam fast

 

My friend's '98 Z28 (6spd) runs 12.9s with minimal mods. The only major mod he has is headers. The rest is all the usual free crap like CAI and lid.

BTW, given that both the SS and Z28 have identical motors and exhaust. Where does the SS pick up the extra 20 hp? I know it can't be the ram air because for one thing that ram air hood is not functional, and for another a dyno wouldn't show any gains from something that requires the car to be on the move.

 

actually the ram air is functional... the air is ducted from the center of the hood down to the front of the hood (inside the hood) and into the air cleaner. Even so, I dont think its worth 20HP.

On a side note... I ran a 01 WS6 from 60 -115 and with me giving it a 4 car jump and I had just caught it by 115 on the juice. Of course I was about to fly by at the end of the race but those cars are fast as hell.

 

Since the hood scoop on the SS hood is located right above the motor and not the intake lid, wouldn't the incoming air have to travel the opposite way to reach the intake lid, defeating the purpose of having ram air?

 

A client just bought a black 2002 SS 6spd, he stop by the office yesterdaythe hood is bad a$$ Im sure there still a ram air effective.

I'm going to have to g-tech his car to see what it will run and bump up my NOS until I run a little quicker. I didnt think it was much more than a mid 13 car.

 

Low 13s off the showroom. High to mid 12s with very few mods.

 

Ive raced quite a few here in so cal, where everyone and their mother buys the ss or a v6...almost no z's. Before my tranny/sfc's/headers They used to walk on me around 88-90 mph.
Now its pretty much the opposite, I usually put a car or 2 (dpending on how bad i luanch/their launch) in forst on hold it all the way.

 

The newer 98-02 SS's and WS6's hoods aren't near as funtional as the older ones 96-97. They have to go through bends and sometimes flow backwards where as the older ones went almost stait through WS6= Direct ram air and SS= Single air duct bend to throttle body. The computers in SS and WS6 make most of the added HP and the ram air helps but only when moving + about 5 HP at 60+.

 

you guys act like a ram air hood actually pushes cold air into the engine....this will never happen without forced induction. Ram air is just a fancy way of saying front mounted Cold air induction. It really has no boosting effects. b

 

GMHTP Got a bone stock one to run a 12.9 Stock on the BFG Comp Radials!!! It blew the doors off the Bullit Stang the Ford Execs brought to the track.

Jay

 

Ya the article was in gmhightechperformance, and I beilve they were the eagle f1's, Even smith driving it like he hated it, as you must do to make the most out of the ls1.

 

Doesn't a stock ZO6 (the 385 horse not the 405 horse) run a 12.8 or something? It doesn't seem like Chevy would let the SS, rated at 325 horse and much heavier, run with the ZO6 right? I know the SS's LS1 is wildly underrated, but wouldn't it seem like the ZO6's engine is underrated as well? 12.9's just doesn't sound right for a stock SS. Lowest I saw was something like a 13.5.

Maybe I'm dumb?

 

Well, driven like GMHTP drove the SS, I'm sure the Z06 would clock in some pretty low ETs too.

 

The Editors @ GMHTP were in disbeleif also. No explaining it. The Ford Execs were in awe & said that the SS should easily do 12.5's on drag tires. Also, these 12.9 runs were with a FILTHY air filter. The tires were the stockers, not sure if BFG's or F1's.

Jay

 

arent some SS's slp modified or something. I know my buddies 95 firehawk is, and thats pulling 315 hp.

 

2002 Z06

1/4 = 12.48 @114.9mph
405hp @6k rpm

 

Those '01 and up LS1's are some fast cars. In '01 they got the LS6 intake and also they got the 6.0 L motor's cam which was a little more aggresive over that of the F-bodies '98 to '00 cam.

I've seen people pushing 300 to 309 HP stock on '01 and up F-bodies. SS or not it seems like they are easily pushing 350 to 360 HP at the crank on those cars.

I have a friend with a '01 SS and he pulls 13.3's all day long and he's got a couple of mods. This was done at a slower track and I'm betting he's have low 13's to high 12's at another track that better known for better traction and is at a lower elevation.

Driving skill does come into play though big time. One person can maybe get a low 13 second time slip out of one car may be a low to mid 14 second time slip out of somebody else driving that same car. Anything's possible and somebody making a mistake of missing a shift or something like that and that could be the race!

Ted