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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 07:15 PM
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305 tpi T/A vs 99 single turbo rx7 stick

i was next to this guy for a few minetes on the street one day then i figured i play aroud for i wile with him so i reved my engine and he reved back so i know it was on but not yet wee had trafic infront of us so we went out on this highway near me and we raced off of a red light
i was not sure who was going to win but i now it would be fun so i shifted my 700r4 into first and reved up the converter a little
when green hit we were off
i got the jump off the line but we were neck and neck though first then once we hit second i was gone and kept on going
it was so funny and he was so imbarrassed that he turnd off HAHAHA
and this is befor i took out my cat and had the headers put on
great race
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 07:27 PM
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I don't think they made RX-7's in 99.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 07:29 PM
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it may not be a 99 but it was one of the newest ones
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 07:35 PM
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I think they stopped making them around 97 or early 98.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 07:43 PM
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they stopped makin rx7 in 96 i think and was it turbo? it doesn't matter a win is a win. u reved he reved so yall both knew a race was about to happen that's all that matters.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 07:45 PM
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Car: 90 Formula, 02 ws6
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i just love my car hahaha
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 08:20 PM
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If it was a turbo RX7 I don't see your car standing a chance against one. The newer ones that had turbo were TT and they really do move.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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i heard the turbo spolling
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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I don't buy it myself. TT RX7 can definitly do better than a 14.8. unless this guy really couldn't drive..even then i don't see it happening.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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I have to agree with Cobrakiller, Those cars are mid 13 second cars, and you have a high 14 second car. He would have to miss a shift to lose. Plus if he kept up with you on the launch, he would have pulled on you in the top end. Those TT RX7 are really fast when they get into high RPMs, thats what rotarys are made for.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 08:57 PM
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dude, no way. those newer rx7's are bad ***. if your running 14.8 then maybe there is a chance assuming the driver missed a shift, but if it had turbos like you say it sounded like then no matter what a 16 year old could have driven it and you would have gotten smoked. how many of these rx7's are stock anyways, im sure they arent the toughest things to mod. by the way, how did you run a 14.8 @ 89 mph? I ran a 15.8 @ 89 mph. I need to figure out what it is that i lack. I had a 2.3 60 ft time. i have 2.73's in the back.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 09:03 PM
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yep higher rpms are where they really shine. that first turbo kicks in at 2200 rpms till 5500 when the other kicks in as far as i know and then it redlines around 8300 or so. Not a car to be taken lightly.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 09:05 PM
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Car: 90 Formula, 02 ws6
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i can show you my time slip but your main problem is those gears i had those once but i blow a hole through the botem of the rear
i would have had a better mph but i have to fether the gas off the line i have no traction with only 1 tire spining
if i fix that and get some drag radials i will be like 14.4 at 95 and i could actualy use the 2500 stall on my converter
as for the rx7 all i know is that i beat it
are you sure there were not single turbo made in the newer rx7
and he did not miss a gear i dont think
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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low 14 second ET or not i don't see that beating a TT RX7. They are solid 13 second cars even with a crappy driver. Single turbo RX7's if I remember came in the previous generations of the cars and not the latest before they stopped making them.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 09:54 PM
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all i know is that i beat him i dont know how or y but i did
im sorry if it boggles your mind
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 10:03 PM
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a 2.02 60' time is damn good with one wheel spinning. My friend with a LS1 TA runs 13.2 consistently and has a 2.0 60' time. I don't see your car which runs a 14.8 being much of a LT1 killer, but anywhoo....good kill.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 10:05 PM
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that amazes me also, RX-7's are a piece of work with the rotary. the really do 13 secs stock and with a few mods, 11's pretty easy but they did stop making them in 97. cobrakiller is right.
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 01:27 AM
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yup RX-7's TT=FAST i got some friends with Supra TT and RX-7 they are pimp...i respect those ricers alot
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 04:55 AM
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i have a close friend that has a 95 twin turbo mazda rx7 and he takes it out to the drag strip(1/8 mile)all the time and his best run is only 9.55 at like 78mph. He always gets beat on the street by mustangs and camaros some thirdgens and all fourth but his car is also a auto so thats why i think his car is so slow.
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 05:07 AM
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 06:43 AM
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 06:54 AM
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in your sig you say you run 14.86 and you blow the doors off lt1 camaro and firebirds RX7
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 07:49 AM
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 08:35 AM
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They do make new RX-7's, they just stopped them from coming to the U.S. In my ***** friends mag. there were newer 98 and 99 RX-7's. Well the car probably wasn't a turbo, but atleast you still beat him.
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 08:46 AM
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Hey maybe it was 100 degrees when he had it at the track. The track could have been freshly resurfaced and been slick as hell for street cars. Maybe there was 100% humidity that day. There are a million reasons why his car could have ran 14.8 at the track and still be able to beat LT1 cars and such. You can get a .3 second drop in ET just because the sun went down 1/2 an hour ago. Their are many reasons why this could be. Come on give the guy a little credit and believability here.
As for the Rx7 have any of you guys ever raced your car when it wasnt running absolutely perfect? I know i have. Got my *** absolutely handed to me by a BMW 318 convertible. That was just plain embarassing. Turns out i had the timing way to retarded for the carb i had just swapped on. The car drove ok all the way until i nailed it. Then it just rolled over and died on my.
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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I think there MUST be some sort of confusion about what you raced. If it was a thirdgen RX-7 (93-96, looks like Vin's car in F&F) you would have gotten smoked, period. They are extremely fast cars and have good gearing from the factory. Now if you raced a secondgen turbo II (single turbo, scoop on hood for intercooler) then the race is completely believable. These are high 14 second cars with everything stock (200hp). I beat one with my '85...it was a black '89 turbo II. I have a feeling that is what you were racing.

If you stand behind your claim that it was a 93-96 car...Im gonna call BS too. I have driven one of these cars, and a thirdgen like yours wouldnt stand a chance.

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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by jerflash
i can show you my time slip but your main problem is those gears i had those once but i blow a hole through the botem of the rear
i would have had a better mph but i have to fether the gas off the line i have no traction with only 1 tire spining
if i fix that and get some drag radials i will be like 14.4 at 95 and i could actualy use the 2500 stall on my converter
as for the rx7 all i know is that i beat it
are you sure there were not single turbo made in the newer rx7
and he did not miss a gear i dont think
your mph will not change for the better after getting posi and sticky tires. you may actually loose mph. when you spin more you usually run a higher mph. you have to look at your mph now (89) and see that there is no way you can hang with a lt1 car. shoot you can't even hang with me. and i'm pullin 2.16-2.2 60 ft times. i just hang even with slightly modified lt1's.
so its my turn
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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gee took me long enough to find this post but I'm here.... like you guys really thought I would pass this one up


sorry dude I have to call BS on this one also
if it was a newer 93-95 rx-7 then it should be running around 13.6-13.7 STOCK
now you say he has a single turbo on there?
then you really should have LOST
most guys who go with a single turbo do so and put a T-66 - a T-88 on there
at least on the latest mod cars

now there are the 87-91 turbo's and tey were called the turbo II but they only had one turbo on there

you might have beaten one of them if he was stock
but other then that he prolly would waste you also

my N/A would come out and give you a good race when I get everything on it working right
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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forgot my B.S dude



:hail: Rx-7
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 12:53 PM
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i have beaten a few lt1 camaros and i know what the newer rx7s look like and it was
the rx7 was completly stock
i dont have a reason to you guys what do i gain from you guys
NOTHING!!!
ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT I GOT A NEW RX7 KILL AND THAT IS ALL
AND I HAVE BEATEN LT1 CARS ALSO
I HAVE NO REASON TO
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 01:47 PM
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You say yourself that you ran a 14.8x!

How in gods name will you beat a car that is at least a whole second faster?

Next time tape the race. Or better yet, go to the track and show us you can beat him with your ET.

Or you can grab a lane with me anytime...I should be about equal to a stock thirdgen RX7.

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Originally posted by jerflash
i have beaten a few lt1 camaros and i know what the newer rx7s look like and it was
the rx7 was completly stock
i dont have a reason to you guys what do i gain from you guys
NOTHING!!!
ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT I GOT A NEW RX7 KILL AND THAT IS ALL
AND I HAVE BEATEN LT1 CARS ALSO
I HAVE NO REASON TO
ok if you killed an rx7 then the driver ****ed up bad as in first to 5th shifting

and being that you said you left him when you hit second that might be the case

but anything else on there you would get SPANKED

also how do you know it was a single turbo?

still curious how you beta LT1's

your car is not even fast enough according to your 1/4 mile times you have posted nor would your mods really add up to something that could take a lt1 on


and hey dude just to let you know I can always share my story of how my 78 celica put the smack down on a f-16
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 02:48 PM
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hold on I have to quote this one


Originally posted by jerflash
i know what the newer rx7s look like and it was
the rx7 was completly stock

305 tpi T/A vs 99 single turbo rx7 stick[/QUOTE]

having a single turbo doesn't classify the car as stock

the stock setup is a twin turbo. they do not have a non turbo after 91


so now I quote your other line

i dont have a reason to you guys what do i gain from you guys
NOTHING!!!
ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT I GOT A NEW RX7 KILL AND THAT IS ALL
AND I HAVE BEATEN LT1 CARS ALSO
I HAVE NO REASON TO

your not b.s.ing us but you know but you raced a car that was stock with non-stock mods on it

guess I should go out and buy that stock 82 formula camaro with a 383 lh0 in it


did the RX-7 look like this
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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With a 2.0 60ft. I don't think you will improve much with lots of traction. My dad runs slicks on his staick Mustang and his 60fts are in the 1.9s and 1.8s. And 89 mph is horrible. No offense, but with my car at well over 3800 lbs, (I had tons of parts, and feul and my sister wanted to go once so she went with me) I went 15.32 at 91.2, with a 2.41 60 ft. I don't see a chance of your car going mid 14s with an 89 mph trap speed. And a TT RX7 would kill most cars over 2nd gear.
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 02:55 PM
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or maybe like this
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 05:24 PM
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Car: 90 Formula, 02 ws6
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i had to feather the gas out of the hole so i dont know how fast i would be if i could actualy hook
in one run i reved the converter to 1800 and at green hammered the gas
i spun my right tire for a good 20 ft and i got a 15.4@90.2mph which is harable but considering that stock lb9 firebirds and camaros run 15.6 i think my run of 14.86 is pretty fast
another thing is i dont know what the guy had under the hood
i did not talk to the guy after the race
he got embarrassed and turned off like i said
if it was stock or not i dont know
it sounded like it had a turbo but i cant be sure of that either
if it did not have a turbo i know i can beat that easily and i did not have my headers done at that point
all i know again is that i beat him and dont have any reason why i sould lie to you guys
and im not lieing
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by jerflash

another thing is i dont know what the guy had under the hood
i did not talk to the guy after the race
he got embarrassed and turned off like i said
if it was stock or not i dont know
it sounded like it had a turbo but i cant be sure of that either
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by jerflash
rx7s look like and it was
the rx7 was completly stock
i

make up your mind


you said in one that you know it was stock

you also say in another that you have no idea what was under the hood.

but then again the first thing you said is it was the last year's of rx-7 which come with a twin turbo, and yet you tell us it had a single turbo and even try to tell us that.

does it seem like his story changes moment by moment


I have posted pictures of some cars
and I asked him if it looked like one of them
he did not even say yes or no to if it looked like one of them
if he knows what a rx-7 looks like why could he not say yes or no to if one of them was the car




also a turbo II RX-7 (only has one turbo though) might put one a good race with him

would he just take off after second though
I doubt it
would he win.... maybe that would be a good race

as far as if it was N/A he should be able to take the win unless the guy has some good mods going on or just lucky
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 11:58 PM
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im pretty sure it was stock because it did not even have exhaust and my friend i had with me inside the car told me that it was a turbo so i believed him
i know nothing about these cars
it did not looklike eaither of those cars
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Old Apr 5, 2002 | 01:15 PM
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Geez guys let up on him a little. Maybe he thought he was racing a turbo because of alternator whine. I know my alternator sounds like a turbo and people even asked if I had one. I just said a turbo alternator Not all of us know about every single car out there. He might of got confused on the model or year or what it had. I know I can't name an import and what its pulling for s**t. I am not into the import scene so I don't research imports. I believe him. This is the street we are talking about. Not everyone in the world can drive like a world class drag racer. Most people do not know how to get the maximum power and acceleration out of the car. The people I have raced I know they don't know how to drive performance wise. Most people on the street are used to everyday driving. Any number of things could of happened that made him win. Am I saying that now he can beat any RX-7 now, of course not. It just so happens at this moment against this perticular car with this driver he won. Give a guy break. You don't have to jump on them like a pack of hungry wolves.
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Old Apr 5, 2002 | 01:19 PM
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They didnt make a non turbo thirdgen rx-7. They all came from the factory with a twin turbo setup. And they all would have spanked him silly.

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Old Apr 5, 2002 | 04:00 PM
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holy ****....lay off this guy. Yes this guy lies alot and would have lost, but for chirst sake guys
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Old Apr 5, 2002 | 04:19 PM
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its not that i lie alot its just that i dont know much about the rx7 and was going by what my friend told me about it that all
he told me it was a 99 single turbo
so thats what i though it was and what ever it was i know i beat it and the guy was emmbarrased
so can you please stop with acusing me of beeing a bull**** artest ok
im not and as for my post about the s4 i never really raced him as i said on my first post about it
i just said i played around and he pu$$ied out of the race
and as for you guys not beleaving me when i say i beat a 97 lt1 camaro shut the hell up because you were noth there at any of these races and you dont know all the conditions and you dont know if the guy i was racing was a total ******* or not
all that matters in these situations is that i won
nomatter how or why i won
I WON and the only reason imtelling these storyes to you is to get another perspective on it
i dont know why you think i would lie, im just a thirdgen owner like yourselves (except for the few mustang owners here, the reason they are on this board i have know clue?)
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 08:35 AM
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the mustang owners are here cause they have something to offer unlike yourself...
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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Thanks CobraKiller, I don't why this guy doesn't like the Mustang guys opinions. They seem to be the same as most of the thirdgen guys here. I can't be at your races to decide if you win or lost, but it seems that the only people you race have faster cars and have lost to you. Have you ever lost???
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 12:19 PM
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Axle/Gears: stock posi 2.73, 12 bolt with 4.11s
i have lost to many car but thats not the point for some reason i did not those these times
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 03:30 PM
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"With the car set up like this i blow the doors off of most GT RUSTANGS and LT1 Firebirds and Camaros with ease. "

This probably has a whole lot to do with the comments your getting.
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 05:01 PM
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Thats pretty much why I've complained, with the parts on now I would out run you, and when I get my new parts in, it would be no contest. My Rustang is pretty stock so I don't see you beating many other less stock ones.
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 05:44 PM
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help if the guy paid attention in english class.......
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 06:21 PM
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Looks like some of the rotary guys already jumped in to clear some things up - but I have some stuff to add. NO 93-95 RX-7 will run 13.6/13.7 stock. Most are pressed to sqeeze out a 14.1. They are very low 14 second cars.

It was not a 99 or a single turbo.

If you beat him, chances are only one turbo was working. 10 year old cars and the most vacuum lines you'll ever see under one hood don't mix well. A lot of times the second turbo doesn't work (seen it dozens of times - I'm a tech at a Mazda dealer). If it was running well, he would have kicked your butt.

Any single turbo conversion late model RX-7 will take on Vipers, I know, I helped build one. Just a single turbo, homemade downpipe, FMI, and a boost controller netted a 12.2@119 on street tires with horrible wheel hop.

Don't underestimate a well taken care of RX-7 on the highway.
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