I may be able to trade my 00 ZX6R on a 02 ZX12R that has 2500kms on it. I can probably get it for a straight up swap. The 02 has some cosmetic damage, but nothing that isn't fixable.

The only problem is if i do this, my thirdgen days are pretty much over as I'd be keeping a bike. I was planning on selling the bike to get another 3rd gen.

The 12R is one of the fastest bikes around. Puts down 160hp to the rear wheel stock, and weighs in at 460lbs dry. With a very good rider, they can hit high 9's stock in the 1/4 mile. They were built to go 200mph off the showroom floor, but they are now restricted to 186mph (still plenty fast)

There was a blue one with wheelie bars at the St. Thomas track meet.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do at this point.

 

zx12r I would have one but I would be dead in a week so I am waiting till I am a bit more responsible

 

As long as your keeping the 4th gen Z for a winter beater (J/K), I'd go for the bike. Take it to deal's gap and drag some bodywork.

 

Im with paul on this. Bikes are good and fun but make damn dangerous daily drivers... Even if your a good driver theres always going to be old people, drunk drivers, cell phoners, and dumb people. Someday when I buy a bike it would definately be like once a week thing, but thats just me. I dont know man, go with your gut but you could get a pretty nice 3rd gen for selling that bike! Either way you go chances are at times you will wish you did the other. I know this post prolly didnt help too much, sorry
greg

 

Thats what this one did... owner took it to deals gap and ended up draging most of the bodywork. Most of its ok, but some of it will need to be replaced.

 

Greg, I know what you mean. I think either way I go, I'll always wonder if i should have made the other choice.

I've been riding for 3 1/2 years now. I've had my fair share of closed calls. Bikes have some advantages over cars, and its using those advantages that will help keep you safe.

Here is a pic of what the bike looked like before its accident

 

That's awesome... did he lay it down? 318 curves in 11 miles up a frickin mountain... can't wait.

 

Wow thats pretty sweet! You should post a pic of your bike. Really dont follow bikes to much since I bought my car. Realized I wont be able to and shouldnt buy a bike for quite a while. I know adsactly what your talking about, and agree, but I still wouldnt use a bike for a daily driver. But thats just cause I know I have my share of unattentive driving moments. I could see myself getting smoked on one of those morning after late drinking night, where the hell is my advil, wish my car had a full autopilot mornings.
greg

 

Thats awesome johny. Where is it? Do they ever block it off for time trials?

 

bike
pros
1)Insanely fast
2)cheap on gas
3)fits in your basement..lol

cons
1)insanely slow in the rain
2)long drives??
3)insurance.(prob not)
4)fits in your basement ..lol
5)insert your wife's reason here.....
6)You have wear insane amounts of clothing

thirdgen
pros
1)cheap
2)you love working on them
3)cruises,long drives etc
4)insert wife's reasons here.......hahaha

cons
1)slow..at first
2)you love working on them...lol
3)not cheap on gas
4)you have to wear inbsane amounts of automotive fluids and grime

I still want a bike though

Daz

 

Yep, not sure how he did it though. Some of the damage is strange. It went over on the right side (the side u see in the pic). The upper fairing has 2 holes where the mirrors are, a crack in one of the headlights, the bracket that holds the muffler in place is snapped in two, and there are minor scratches on the gas tank cover, rear tail section and left and right fairings. It will need turn signals as well.

 

That's where my Yamaha is lol

 

That bike is seriously fast Kev. There's a guy running around Toronto - think his name is Wayne...he's got a zx-12 with extended swingarm. Anyways, he does rolling burnouts starting at 80km/h!!!
oh, and if I had to choose between the GTA and the 1, the 1 would win, hands down.

 

Actually, now that I sold my bike, i would love to get another one. It was only a little GPZ but it was fun as hell. But i wouldn't give up the Iroc for a bike. Work it into your budget to have both. Sure the bike is fun. But it is dependant on weather. Plus, it's the other drivers you have to worry about. you can be the best driver in the world, but if your stuck on the highway beside a retard driver and he cuts you off, your screwed.

I say keep the zx6r and the TA and enjoy the both of them.
I personally like the old style round headlight gixxer's, or the yamaha's, they were sweet looking.
I've put my GPZ into a cornfield at a good speed and it scared the hell out of me, but I still got on it again. It's all about respect.
People don't really gain respect for what a bike can do to you, until you wipe one out, then you realize...

 

I used to have a 750. But I sold it when the combination of it and I got too dangerous. I've mellowed out abit since.

My driving habits aside ninety1taGTA has it straight -- it's the rest of the world that makes bikes dangerous. I figure it's a Darwinian thing smart/lucky riders survive and get better, dumb/unlucky riders unfortunately don't.

Fact is I've been looking at bikes in the Autotrader for awhile now didn't know there were riders in the thirdgen group ? Thats pretty cool. I've been watching the price on used Yamaha VMAX definitely not a rocket like the ZX but still capable of alot of fun. Different kind of ride. Best part is you can pick one up with low mileage for $10k.

Check the pic. Waddya think ?

 

I tried to load the VMAX pic but nothing shows.

 

Those V-Max bikes are pretty sweet. There is a guy on tfbm.org that used to have a built up one that made around 150hp to the rear wheel.

Still thinking about doing the swap for the 12R, but I haven't decided yet.

 

Well either way you will be happy kevin... But maybe trade the bike for the bike and buy another rolling chassis or blown motor 3rd gen to work on as a side project? Assuming you like working on cars which it does sound like, you will probly miss that side of it. 3rd gens are relatively easy, and theres not too much you can do on a bike easily (or is there?).
I never really got a crotch rocket like I wanted to but I will never forget my enduro and mx bikes. First bike was a 80 yamaha dt100 (I did road drive it sometimes to friends houses, not far), top speed 90 freaking unbelievable, 100 2 stroke CCs worth of km! I was like 12 and always helped my bro work on his bikes (he usually bought one, drove it, got a parts bike or 2, fixed it up and sold it). Not that I could do much but I did what I could. For my b-day he bought the dt100 from his friend for 300 bucks and I think it has to be the best gift I ever got by far! Parents were completely against it, and them being my only source of income at the time I could never buy a bike. The dt100 will always hold a place in my heart. Then I got a yz125 and it was all good. Difference was night and day of course and I started doing jumps and trails. Sold it for my crotch rocket fund which turned into car fund. Anyway theres a bit of history to put you guys to sleep... enjoy
greg

 

IMO! Bikes are awesome...But! Very dangerous, not just cause of the driver but other idiots on the road. I had a RZ 500 (2 stroke) Very fast bike! Guy cut me off once, it was like he didn't see me. I went down hard, bike was destroyed. I broke my collar bone in 3 places ripped my shoulder out of the socket and toar every legament in that area of my body. I was out of everything for 3 months, including driving my car. Never mind all the pain. Bikes are fun, but deadly. If you can't respect it, don't get it.

 

Man that sucks! RZs are awesome. I was looking for a RZ500 before I decided to get a car... Awesome beasts and one of the first good crotch rocket style bikes. They hold their value decently too and someday they will definately be worth a good chunk imo.
greg

 

I would love a rz but 2 stroke might be a bit much for a first bike

 

If anyone ever comes across an RGV 250, let me know. I have always wanted one. Preferably the "Lucky Strike" edition.

 

I figured that as well but I planned on taking it easy at first cause I definately wanted a bike I would feel like replacing after awhile and could keep as long as I could. Same thing when I bought the car.

Whats the rgv250 johny? A classic I presume? Post a pic if you got any! Thanks
greg

 

Jay, check this out:

http://www.two-wheeler.com/cgi-bin/t...25264#2-STROKE

 

An RGV 250 is an old racing bike that is capable of pulling a 750 from a light.

It's a 2 stroke that makes low end torque.

The RGV 250 is light enough that even an amateur rider can drag bodywork.

 

Whoa thats platinum! Sounds kind of like the same principle of the RZs on a more exotic scale... Adding that to my list of what to buy when I win the big one! What year is that and how much does it run for?
greg

 

Daz wrote.

bike
pros
1)Insanely fast
2)cheap on gas
3)fits in your basement..lol

cons
1)insanely slow in the rain

Big sport bikes are way way fun for sure. On the slow in the rain thing Daz I must disagree. With a good set of Metzelers on them I used to ride at 120mph in the rain no problem.

 

I dont think daz meant you couldnt go fast in the rain. he probly just meant you need to be cautious, by going insanely slow in the rain. If I rode a bike I would just skip it, if rain is forecasted just drive the beater or in kevins case, the lt1 .

 

Nothing wrong with riding in the rain. Just get a good rainsuit and you stay perfectly dry. Of course you want to watch the cars around you closely as they often say they didn't see the bike on a nice sunny day.